SNAP Benefits in danger of halting due to government shutdown

Wargames

One Of The Last Real Ones To Do It
Joined
Apr 1, 2013
Messages
30,516
Reputation
6,680
Daps
116,784
Reppin
New York City
Why are Republicans panicking? Didn't why always want SNAP and social programs to go away?

They should be high-fiving themselves for this accomplishment
Hard to tell people they got to pull themselves up from bootstraps when they are starving and you gave Argentina $40 billion and was bragging about the marble you put in your bathroom.

Honestly if you told me Trump really wanted to force the republicans to abolish the filibuster more than anything else I would believe you. He’s setting up republicans in congress to take the blame
For this more than anyone else.
 

Wargames

One Of The Last Real Ones To Do It
Joined
Apr 1, 2013
Messages
30,516
Reputation
6,680
Daps
116,784
Reppin
New York City
I read that Judges ordered Trump to Fund SNAP. Is that for certain states only?
I thought the spirit of it was fund everyone and the only question is will you add additional funds or give people less money.

We all know Trump ain't planning on giving people more money, their goal is to make people suffer. At no point was the ruling “you got to figure out a new way to do this” because they been doing this for decades.

Also this happening before Thanksgiving and Christmas gonna have republicans looking real heartless.
 
Last edited:

Wargames

One Of The Last Real Ones To Do It
Joined
Apr 1, 2013
Messages
30,516
Reputation
6,680
Daps
116,784
Reppin
New York City
One suggestion I have for folks who don't like to give out money is buy gift cards to restaurants and give them out. Dollar Tree has $25 Mcdonald gift cards for example. That could help out a kid or family for a little bit.
Bro depending on where you are that is maybe 2 meals if the family is small. Its still good but its a shame in the grand scheme of thing.

All of this happening during inflation rising is insane. People are being asked to cover for the government while our money has less value.

Its all insane shyt.
 

ba'al

Vasectomy Gang
Supporter
Joined
Mar 22, 2015
Messages
30,071
Reputation
28,558
Daps
183,005
Bothsiders still wont admit we'd be better off with Kamala
This is a lie. And you know it's a lie.

Before Kamala even officially lost. I said she was the better person. But knew Trump would win.

But even the DNC waited until the very last minute and ran her a half ass campaign when Biden age was showing too much. Shows how much faith ya'll had in her as well.
Maybe your right bnew. But I think he will win the election. But Kamala is the better person
Gotcha so we just talking out our ass here for daps.

The trump admin is bad and Kamala was a better candidate.

I'm a bothsider and I denouce myself.

So what about them donations? Here's a chance to actually support something you believe in.
Trump is going to win this election just going to say that now for ya'll prepare.

Even though I like Kamala.
 

Unbothered

All Star
Joined
Mar 11, 2022
Messages
3,795
Reputation
1,320
Daps
9,896
Reppin
'Cuse, New York
If you're solely blaming Repubs or Dems for this, you have been bamboozled.
They are both playing their part in the lack of funding.

And they're able to do it because folks identify so much with 'their' political party that all a politician has to do is blame the other side and their people eat it up.
This whole situation is on the Republicans and Trump. Democrats have a good reason for not ending the shutdown, they're trying to help people continue having access to free and affordable Healthcare.

Some people, due to their understandable frustration, are a bit upset that the Democrats didn't go along with the Republicans' demands to prevent SNAP from being up in the air for November, and while I can understand some of the frustration many have with their SNAP benefits being delayed, only a fool would be okay with high-expensive premiums or no health insurance at all. Hypothetically speaking, so unless someone is cool with higher health insurance or having none at all, then yeah, it makes sense they'd be mad at Democrats because they are a fool.

The Republicans are the ones at fault because they're lying to the public using half-truths or lies completely and using people's hunger as leverage. Telling the public that the emergency funds can't be released because it's illegal, and the USDA using sensationalism about how the “Well has gone dry” was/is a lie. The well hasn't gone dry, and sure, the funds can't be released without the president's consent, but generally speaking, the funds are not illegal in the sense that they can't be used for matters like this, and were saved exactly for these particular situations, which is why a federal judge has decided to step in because Trump, The GOP and chief of the USDA are going too far.

He co-signed these same funds during 2018-19 when the government was shut down, and he could do it again, but has decided not to because his administration is choosing to be cruel by using the public's hunger pains as leverage to force the Dems to cave into an agreement that hurts more people rather than actually helping them.
 
Last edited:

jilla82

Veteran
Joined
May 17, 2012
Messages
20,658
Reputation
-1,120
Daps
65,142
Reppin
the internet
if youre solely blaming Repubs or Dems for this you have been bamboozled.
They are both playing their part in the lack of funding.

and they're able to do it because folks identify so much with 'their' political party that all a politician has to do is blame the other side and their people eat it up.
an example of this is inflation and the money supply.
Neither will take responsibility but both are responsible.

These issues are much more complicated than whats discussed on clickbait podcast and nonsense like Fox/MSNBC.
Is the average person able to think past name calling, identity politics and groupthink?

The truth of the matter is it is very possible some Democrats want this to happen because it makes people even more likely to go towards socialism...more liberal policies...and they get to stay in power.

If we can stop making each issue dem vs republican and look at them from just a factual standpoint society may be able to get somewhere...
until that happens were all just pawns on a chessboard.


As he points out the current admin want to increase growth while the Fed and Dems want things to maintain as they have been over the past few years (AI and immigrant labor)



 

jilla82

Veteran
Joined
May 17, 2012
Messages
20,658
Reputation
-1,120
Daps
65,142
Reppin
the internet
This whole situation is on the Republicans and Trump. Democrats have a good reason for not ending the shutdown, they're trying to help people continue having access to free and affordable Healthcare.

Some people, due to their understandable frustration, are a bit upset that the Democrats didn't go along with the Republicans' demands to prevent SNAP from being up in the air for November, and while I can understand some of the frustration many have with their SNAP benefits being delayed, only a fool would be okay with high-expensive premiums or no health insurance at all. Hypothetically speaking, so unless someone is cool with higher health insurance or having none at all, then yeah, it makes sense they'd be mad at Democrats because they are a fool.

The Republicans are the ones at fault because they're lying to the public using half-truths or lies completely and using people's hunger as leverage. Telling the public that the emergency funds can't be released because it's illegal, and the USDA using sensationalism about how the “Well has gone dry” was/is a lie. The well hasn't gone dry, and sure, the funds can't be released without the president's consent, but generally speaking, the funds are not illegal in the sense that they can't be used for matters like this, and were saved exactly for these particular situations.

He co-signed these same funds during 2018-19 when the government was shut down, and he could do it again, but has decided not to because his administration is choosing to be cruel by using the public's hunger pains as leverage to force the Dems to cave into an agreement that hurts more people rather than actually helping them.
this right here proves Dems are also responsible...
youre okay with it because you agree with their fight.

but the fact of the matter is they are using SNAP benefits to hold Repubs hostage.

Are you saying Democrats dont tell half truths?
What do you read/listen to that would tell you that was the case?

Its all political nonsense by both of them.

off topic but my premiums more than doubled the moment ACA went into affect
 

Orbital-Fetus

cross that bridge
Supporter
Joined
May 5, 2012
Messages
41,922
Reputation
19,123
Daps
155,045
Reppin
Humanity
Dems wont do a deal unless ACA credits (or something like that) are extended right?

They're using Snap benefits to play a game of chicken.

Even if Snap wasn't getting cut off during the shutdown Dems still won't pass a bill that guts the ACA. Repubs know this.

Btw, Trump has 6 billion dollars in emergency funds that he could use to fund snap during the shutdown. He is not doing it.

From my point of view the Republicans are simultaneously attacking healthcare, snap, and the people who rely on them.



I can do this all day...

Your talking points are really easy to disprove. Have you considered studying debate techniques so you don't come off so sloppy when trying to articulate your thoughts?
 

DaHNIC82

Veteran
Joined
Jul 20, 2013
Messages
21,290
Reputation
5,975
Daps
91,928
Reppin
Off The Cuff Radio/ScrewballRadio/BudeBoyEnt
this right here proves Dems are also responsible...
youre okay with it because you agree with their fight.

but the fact of the matter is they are using SNAP benefits to hold Repubs hostage.

Are you saying Democrats dont tell half truths?
What do you read/listen to that would tell you that was the case?

Its all political nonsense by both of them.

off topic but my premiums more than doubled the moment ACA went into affect

Wasn't Obamacare rates and prices increasing every year?

Is anybody on the coli even on Obamacare?
 

Fani Willis fan

Veteran
Joined
Jan 27, 2016
Messages
20,375
Reputation
2,858
Daps
82,388
This whole situation is on the Republicans and Trump. Democrats have a good reason for not ending the shutdown, they're trying to help people continue having access to free and affordable Healthcare.

Some people, due to their understandable frustration, are a bit upset that the Democrats didn't go along with the Republicans' demands to prevent SNAP from being up in the air for November, and while I can understand some of the frustration many have with their SNAP benefits being delayed, only a fool would be okay with high-expensive premiums or no health insurance at all. Hypothetically speaking, so unless someone is cool with higher health insurance or having none at all, then yeah, it makes sense they'd be mad at Democrats because they are a fool.

The Republicans are the ones at fault because they're lying to the public using half-truths or lies completely and using people's hunger as leverage. Telling the public that the emergency funds can't be released because it's illegal, and the USDA using sensationalism about how the “Well has gone dry” was/is a lie. The well hasn't gone dry, and sure, the funds can't be released without the president's consent, but generally speaking, the funds are not illegal in the sense that they can't be used for matters like this, and were saved exactly for these particular situations, which is why a federal judge has decided to step in because Trump, The GOP and chief of the USDA are going too far.

He co-signed these same funds during 2018-19 when the government was shut down, and he could do it again, but has decided not to because his administration is choosing to be cruel by using the public's hunger pains as leverage to force the Dems to cave into an agreement that hurts more people rather than actually helping them.
Personally I don't think people like a Nancy Pelosi actually care about SNAP or the current healthcare system being attacked. These wealthy boomers who want to hold onto power would rather not have the tax burden, regardless of which side of the aisle they are on. Someone like AOC probably genuinely cares, but she's not the rule.
Overall, Dems are just playing good cop here.

If they had their way, everybody would be on an allowance. The problem is that the other side also wants extreme overcorrection.
 
Top