SNAP Benefits in danger of halting due to government shutdown

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I'm getting real sick of these red hats on social media constantly arguing that the democrats are to blame for the continued shut down. then when I give a rebuttal with the actual facts
so what are the facts?

the Republican CR on the table funds food stamps, and Republicans don't have any obligation to fund the ACA at the level the democrats want :yeshrug: the Dems lost in november. if protecting the ACA was so important, they shouldn't have fukked up the 2024 nomination/election so badly

so the Dems are using the shutdown to fight for more ACA money, and that's fine, but it IS their shutdown. 52/53 Republicans voted to open the government. 3/47 Democrats voted to open it.
 

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so what are the facts?

the Republican CR on the table funds food stamps, and Republicans don't have any obligation to fund the ACA at the level the democrats want :yeshrug: the Dems lost in november. if protecting the ACA was so important, they shouldn't have fukked up the 2024 nomination/election so badly

so the Dems are using the shutdown to fight for more ACA money, and that's fine, but it IS their shutdown. 52/53 Republicans voted to open the government. 3/47 Democrats voted to open it.
have you seen the new ACA plan premiums? :skip:

fukk dat. Stand on the side of the common man, not corps. :snooze:
 

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have you seen the new ACA plan premiums? :skip:

fukk dat. Stand on the side of the common man, not corps. :snooze:
yes, and they're doing that by shutting down the government :dead:

it's fine if you like the reason. i agree with it. but you can't then deny that it's the Dems' shutdown; that doesn't make any sense
 

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yes, and they're doing that by shutting down the government :dead:

it's fine if you like the reason. i agree with it. but you can't then deny that it's the Dems' shutdown; that doesn't make any sense
it's not the Dems shutdown.

that's just what they want you to believe.

not fallin for it and any reasonable person isn't.

can't beat bullies by continuing to give in. nope.
 

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so what are the facts?

the Republican CR on the table funds food stamps, and Republicans don't have any obligation to fund the ACA at the level the democrats want :yeshrug: the Dems lost in november. if protecting the ACA was so important, they shouldn't have fukked up the 2024 nomination/election so badly

so the Dems are using the shutdown to fight for more ACA money, and that's fine, but it IS their shutdown. 52/53 Republicans voted to open the government. 3/47 Democrats voted to open it.

and what about the SNAP funding? they could literally fund it now with their emergency funds but told everyone to fukk off in order to further their own agenda.
 

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My thing is that sometimes to save people, you have to make tough choices and sacrifices, even if it comes at a cost. You can either stand by and watch people suffer, or you can do something that will likely cost you, but it's the chance you take to save people.

We know it's Trump and the GOP's issue but they don't care. They have no conscience, compassion, or qualms in seeing the damage they're doing, so people going through hardships due to the shutdown don't resonate with them.


It's not the Democrats' fault at all for what's happening, but I just don't think it's wise to sit on your hands as people suffer from a food crisis, potentially a home/shelter crisis, among other issues, even though the reason for doing so has merit. Yes, people will be upset that you folded, but at the same time, they'll see that you did it for a greater reason, to prevent people from suffering any longer.

At the beginning of the shutdown, when things weren't so bad, the Democrats' position of standing still made sense, but as days and weeks have gone by with no signs of resolution anywhere, and people are starting to feel the pain, holding out longer is risky for millions of people's livelihoods and well-being. It was a noble act but at this stage of the shutdown, they may need to rethink their strategy.
The people had the chance to save themselves last November but went another route. A lot of people only learn when they feel pain and sometimes even that is not guaranteed.
 

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it's not the Dems shutdown.

that's just what they want you to believe.

not fallin for it and any reasonable person isn't.

can't beat bullies by continuing to give in. nope.
and what about the SNAP funding? they could literally fund it now with their emergency funds but told everyone to fukk off in order to further their own agenda.
you have to make up your mind :yeshrug:

the Dems are fighting the Republicans by shutting down the government. that is what's happening. you can't both credit Dems for fighting Republicans, but dishonestly deny.....how they're doing it :dead:

and if the end goal is to force Republicans to agree to extend covid era ACA subsidies, and they do it, then Dems get all the credit in the world for the win
 

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you have to make up your mind :yeshrug:

the Dems are fighting the Republicans by shutting down the government. that is what's happening. you can't both credit Dems for fighting Republicans, but weirdly deny.....how they're doing it :dead:
they are not shuttin down the government.

when it was time to really negotiate, who left to go on break?

Nope, not fallin for these Rethug shenanigans.
 

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they are not shuttin down the government.
that's not what the votes on the Senate floor say :yeshrug:

the Dems are shutting down the government, and you support the reason they're doing so. you agree with them trying to force the republicans' hand. there's nothing wrong with that, but i don't understand the attempts to spin it otherwise

shutting it down is the only power the Dems have; so they're doing it
 

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that's not what the votes on the Senate floor say :yeshrug:

when someone is truly not operating in good faith, don't waste your time.

Replace the ACA subsidies so families aren't getting hammered with these ridiculously jacked up health care premiums and I'm sure the Dems will agree to listen in good faith on their end.

They budged on that Big Bullshyt Bill and got hammered so no more caving in.

Until then

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and let's not forget that the other purpose of the shutdown is to for mike johnson to continue to refuse to swear in the new congresswoman that would literally be the deciding vote that'd release the epstein files as well. mike johnson is singlehandley protecting a prolific pedophile ring, while lying to the public that he's doing no such thing.
 

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They budged on that Big Bullshyt Bill and got hammered so no more caving in.
no they didn't. Dems had absolutely no power over that bill, just like the Republicans had zero power to stop Biden's big bills in 2021
Replace the ACA subsidies so families aren't getting hammered with these ridiculously jacked up health care premiums and I'm sure the Dems will agree to listen in good faith on their end.
yeah, i guess we'll see what happens. really shouldn't have run Biden in 2024 if that was the goal :scusthov:
 

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and let's not forget that the other purpose of the shutdown is to for mike johnson to continue to refuse to swear in the new congresswoman that would literally be the deciding vote that'd release the epstein files as well. mike johnson is singlehandley protecting a prolific pedophile ring, while lying to the public that he's doing no such thing.
i'm not mad at that. i actually want the Epstein thing pushed as close to the 2026 midterm as possible :mjlol: why get it out of the way now?
 
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