Tariq Nasheed on Breakfast Club

[#1 pick]

@Neva_Die_Alone is your typical dumb smart nikka who run around in circles chasing their tail for hours upon hours with little solution or true ideas for Blacks.

First, I didn't create the "inherent" phrase, that was @Pifferry, second, I made a critique on a forum, I'm not discrediting any of the good things he's done.

1. I did some research on Piffery who I know is an unquestionable c00n from the jump, I was like umm. Why would you even mention him? Then I did research. So the only times Piffery ever used Inherently in ANY sentence was even he was antagonizing Black people or Black posters. Guess who called him out one time? @mrken12. Guess who dapped mrken12 post? You.

In fact, Piffery has only mention inherently several times and only twice in a racial tense once. That was Apr 13th 2014. By that point, #inherently movement which was created by you was in overdrive. It was probably one of the bigger movements on thecoli at the time. http://www.thecoli.com/threads/yall...-movement-has-certain-posters-on-edge.209156/

Here is the first signs of inherently being used was a thread created by Piffery but he did NOT start the movement. You did: http://www.thecoli.com/threads/are-cacs-inherently-evil.195792/

Apr 19th: http://www.thecoli.com/threads/inherently-official-check-in-i-wanna-know-whos-about-it.207295/

In fact, Matt, you were dapping Tariq threads in that same time period.
http://www.thecoli.com/posts/8214335/

Screenshots link:

@Matt504

 

[s3ven_LvLs]

How would it help to not acknowledge that black people are politically and economically diverse? Ignoring the needs of middle class blacks for poorer blacks (and vice versa) doesn't really help "black" people. The two groups generally have different agendas, goals, experiences etc. Someone who is black living in the hood, who is chronically unemployed, unskilled, with a prison record and with children isn't going to have too much in common with someone who is middle class, college educated, law abiding, married and employed (and that' s not intended to shyt on anyone poor--I'm just outlining polar opposites) just because the two of them are black. But that's not my point in its entirety...the other end of the problem is that he draws cross comparisons to other groups who are very new, much smaller and much more homogeneous.SO in otherwords, you can't look at Gays, and Asians and then say (collectively) why can't blacks do that too? Well the reason is obvious...blacks as a "collective" really aren't a "collective" group at all. They're far too diverse politically, economically and regionally.

How are they suppose to get on the same page and put together the same agenda just because they are both "black" ? For who, for what?
As far as the foundation of his arguments...well IMO they are generally based on a false narrative. If you build your argument on that--then everything after that is basically false in principle.

I understand what you saying. So to somewhat sum up what you said ......blacks within the category have a huge disconnect. This disconnect needs to be addressed and corrected before beginning to move on to the goal of working in a harmonious manner.

The root of disconnect with black people within the category is white supremacy. If there was no white supremacist influence on black people then it would be more uniform in the thinking of black people.

Also I want you to specify what is false about the foundation of his arguments. Don't just say "they are generally based on a false narrative". That is not telling anybody anything constructive.

 

[Ezigbo Nwanyi]

@Neva_Die_Alone is your typical dumb smart nikka who run around in circles chasing their tail for hours upon hours with little solution or true ideas for Blacks.


1. I did some research on Piffery who I know is an unquestionable c00n from the jump, I was like umm. Why would you even mention him? Then I did research. So the only times Piffery ever used Inherently in ANY sentence was even he was antagonizing Black people or Black posters. Guess who called him out one time? @mrken12. Guess who dapped mrken12 post? You.

In fact, Piffery has only mention inherently several times and only twice in a racial tense once. That was Apr 13th 2014. By that point, #inherently movement which was created by you was in overdrive. It was probably one of the bigger movements on thecoli at the time. http://www.thecoli.com/threads/yall...-movement-has-certain-posters-on-edge.209156/

Here is the first signs of inherently being used was a thread created by Piffery but he did NOT start the movement. You did: http://www.thecoli.com/threads/are-cacs-inherently-evil.195792/

Apr 19th: http://www.thecoli.com/threads/inherently-official-check-in-i-wanna-know-whos-about-it.207295/

In fact, Matt, you were dapping Tariq threads in that same time period.
http://www.thecoli.com/posts/8214335/

Screenshots link:

@Matt504

 

[ridedolo]

envy is such a fukking hypocrite clown.

he talks this shyt about black on black crime, but makes a living off of music that promotes such behavior.

great interview though.

 

[filial_piety]

Are you white? This is not help not a back down. Just a bunch of Blacks are different. Under the system of white supremacy sir we're all the same though.

Tariq says all the time some folks can't be saved. So all that lumping your doing is crazy. Tariq is trying to open up all black minds to think alike if some don't want to and what to stay under a system of white supremacy fukk'EM.

I've probably been black longer than you've been alive.

But like I said, "white supremacy" (however you choose to define that) effects all groups differently. If you're wondering why blacks haven't "collectively" come together to achieve an agenda, it's because people (like yourself and Tariq) consciously refuse to acknowledge that all black demographics do not and would not share the same agenda based on history, geography, economics and politics within the US.

The black middle class today is the largest it has ever been--meanwhile the poorest blacks still occupy a disproportionate of America's poor. If you think that they are going to come together simply because of "race", then you're playing yourself.

All "black minds" are not going to "think alike" because blacks are too diverse. Why is that so difficult to understand?

 

[bnm8907]

The reality is you simply have a lot of black folks who have a very negative perception of black people who aren't cosigned by the establishment / white people.

It's one thing if he took all that money and didn't do shyt with it. Instead, dude did a bunch of stuff with it over and over and over again and still has a lot of people hating about him making money along the way.

The big irony in all this? If Tariq was broke while saying everything he was saying, those same dudes would talk all types of shyt about him being broke. They wouldn't even take him seriously purely because he was broke.

I was going to say this too but I was on tablet at the time and didn't feel like typing all this out


Respect

 

[Pifferry]

First, I didn't create the "inherent" phrase, that was @Pifferry, second, I made a critique on a forum, I'm not discrediting any of the good things he's done.

Thanks for remembering me

 

[filial_piety]

I understand what you saying. So to somewhat sum up what you said ......blacks within the category have a huge disconnect. This disconnect needs to be addressed and corrected before beginning to move on to the goal of working in a harmonious manner.

The root of disconnect with black people within the category is white supremacy. If there was no white supremacist influence on black people then it would be more uniform in the thinking of black people.

Also I want you to specify what is false about the foundation of his arguments. Don't just say "they are generally based on a false narrative". That is not telling anybody anything constructive.

Well I think you're starting to get my point, but I'm not so sure I'd say "disconnect" because "disconnect" insinuates that there is or should be a "connection" based on something as arbitrary as race. I'm not so sure that I should expect blacks to find common ground with other blacks simply because they are "black." Afterall, no one puts that type of pressure on any other group, and I'm not so sure that it should be placed on black people either.

As far as his "false narrative", I've pretty much said it over and over again--he continues to push this idea that blacks are fragmented, but have one mind set and therefore we should all have the same agenda. He builds his entire argument on that premise.

 

[↓R↑LYB]

You got like 20K posts how much more can you be on here?

 

[newworldafro]

They right, y'all use the term c00n too recklessly. Envy ain't no c00n either. Y'all need to chill, every question isn't making someone an instant c00n.

Agreed. This part of the interbiew sas when Tariq was like yall are all worked up over Trump, but what has the current administration done. They trip over themselves trying to defend it.

 

[↓R↑LYB]

I disagree.

But I DO AGREE that blacks shouldnt just randomly vote out of emotion/fandom like they're doing with Hilary all due to Hilary dapping and being the wife of Bill...

I just want to make sure I understand. You believe that what Malcolm was saying in the YouTube clip was nonsense?

 

[Matt504]

@Neva_Die_Alone is your typical dumb smart nikka who run around in circles chasing their tail for hours upon hours with little solution or true ideas for Blacks.


1. I did some research on Piffery who I know is an unquestionable c00n from the jump, I was like umm. Why would you even mention him? Then I did research. So the only times Piffery ever used Inherently in ANY sentence was even he was antagonizing Black people or Black posters. Guess who called him out one time? @mrken12. Guess who dapped mrken12 post? You.

In fact, Piffery has only mention inherently several times and only twice in a racial tense once. That was Apr 13th 2014. By that point, #inherently movement which was created by you was in overdrive. It was probably one of the bigger movements on thecoli at the time. http://www.thecoli.com/threads/yall...-movement-has-certain-posters-on-edge.209156/

Here is the first signs of inherently being used was a thread created by Piffery but he did NOT start the movement. You did: http://www.thecoli.com/threads/are-cacs-inherently-evil.195792/

Apr 19th: http://www.thecoli.com/threads/inherently-official-check-in-i-wanna-know-whos-about-it.207295/

In fact, Matt, you were dapping Tariq threads in that same time period.
http://www.thecoli.com/posts/8214335/

Screenshots link:

@Matt504

What's the significance of me dapping a Tariq thread when I keep saying I'm not anti Tariq?

 

[↓R↑LYB]

WAIT this shyt was real?

And you got idiots on Twitter defending it

 

[s3ven_LvLs]

Well I think you're starting to get my point, but I'm not so sure I'd say "disconnect" because "disconnect" insinuates that there is or should be a "connection" based on something as arbitrary as race.(but there should be a connection and that connection is being affected by white supremacy) I'm not so sure that I should expect blacks to find common ground with other blacks simply because they are "black." Afterall, no one puts that type of pressure on any other group(white supremacy puts that type of pressure on this group), and I'm not so sure that it should be placed on black people either.

As far as his "false narrative", I've pretty much said it over and over again--he continues to push this idea that blacks are fragmented, but have one mind set and therefore we should all have the same agenda. He builds his entire argument on that premise.(His viewpoint is that we should begin to have that mindset)

If you listen to tariq on a routine and not just watch/listen to him on the occassion, he constantly gives advice on how to identify and counter a system that affects what we call black people in a negative way. I am sure he understands that ALL black people not gonna team up together. As of matter of fact I know he doesn't because he has said repeatedly on different occassions that we cant save everybody and we cant feel bad about it.


You might have a slightly different perspective on what he is about rather than what in actuality he is about. He gives you information on how a certain system works against black people and gives some guidance on how to go about countering the system so that likelihood of a black person being taken advantage of is minimized. He doesnt expect every black person to listen because that is unrealistic.

I am not sure about the problem you have with black people having the "same agenda". That is how group work together by having the "same agenda".

 

[Bawon Samedi]

I just want to make sure I understand. You believe that what Malcolm was saying in the YouTube clip was nonsense?

Why are you trying to project onto me? When did I say that? So what if I think its nonsense? Doesn't mean I think Malcolm X is nonsense... It seems you want me to say just THAT.