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On the other hand, nikkas who follow the culture know the Gun Bar King title is between them.

As a league owner I'd jump on the opportunity to book that battle, RIGHT NOW.
Nitty just came of a stellar performance, Roc is definitely with it so that means no worries about him bein motivated.
I'd book that battle with a clause that he's not allowed to battle anyone or anywhere else in the meantime.
That way you secure the demand cause he can't take a L if he's not battling.
that way he can't fall off lyrically either
He's obviously in his zone right now.
Why wait until he potentially falls off. That doesn't make any sense.
If he got them A-1 punches right now you don't wanna waste them shyts on subpar battles/opponents.
If he beats Roc, his profile will be up there by default and Roc's position would still be safe.
If he loses with a good performance he'll get the Chess treatment.
You're thinking like a fan and not an owner though. These guys (such as many of the posters on here) that follow the culture aren't necessarily the ones funding the actual culture though. What kind of financial reward does URL get putting Rum Nitty against one of their top draws?
 

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You're thinking like a fan and not an owner though. These guys (such as many of the posters on here) that follow the culture aren't necessarily the ones funding the actual culture though. What kind of financial reward does URL get putting Rum Nitty against one of their top draws?

What kind of financial reward did URL get from putting Roc against Brizz?

Edit: if a sponsor paid for that nvm.




Verb didn't even ask to battle Roc. The people want Roc vs Nitty.
 
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What kind of financial reward did URL get from putting Roc against Brizz?

Edit: if a sponsor paid for that nvm.




Verb didn't even ask to battle Roc. The people want Roc vs Nitty.

Roc vs Brizz wasn't at NOME though. I'm not saying they shouldn't/can't/won't battle, I just don't think URL is putting Rum Nitty on THAT stage against THAT battler when options like Hollow, Conceited, Hitman, Hoffa, Shine, etc., seem available.
 

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:beli: Hollow clearly won that battle. Surf got the first but that's it.
Hollow won that battle with what bars? I understand Hollow is somehow a god on this forum but what did he do to beat Surf? Because the only reason I've ever heard is because "urn and ash" isn't "Nash". Hollow was complete trash in that battle, Surf CLEARLY beat him on the performance angle, and his bars were better than Hollow's, and his freestyles/rebuttals (one of Hollow's calling cards) were better than Nigel's that night as well.
 
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Hollow won that battle with what bars? I understand Hollow is somehow a god on this forum but what did he do to beat Surf? Because the only reason I've ever heard is because "urn and ash" isn't "Nash". Hollow was complete trash in that battle, Surf CLEARLY beat him on the performance angle, and his bars were better than Hollow's, and his freestyles/rebuttals (one of Hollow's calling cards) were better than Nigel's that night as well.

Hollow's swear to God angle was better than anything Surf did as far as angles.

KD/Dwyane Wade, I wake up to the block > Ate Yo L on the low, If we meek and any other reach Surf had.

Surf's best bar was the cap room line and his AR on MY hip rebuttal was nonsensical. If you're gonna give a pass to that bar, you've gotta give a pas to DNA spraying the machete.
 

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Roc vs Brizz wasn't at NOME though. I'm not saying they shouldn't/can't/won't battle, I just don't think URL is putting Rum Nitty on THAT stage against THAT battler when options like Hollow, Conceited, Hitman, Hoffa, Shine, etc., seem available.

Con is past his prime.

Hitman and URL doing business is unlikely.

Shine is a rematch.

Hoffa is better for Summer Madness.

Hollow is an unknown at this point.

The only person Roc is asking for at the moment is Nitty. How many cards are there before NOME? If there's an RvV2 card it wouldn't make sense. This battle has steam so why not? They put Serius/DNA at NOME so they can have Nitty up there. If Roc says he wants Nitty I think they are satisfied enough with Rum's recent work to book it.
 

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What kind of financial reward did URL get from putting Roc against Brizz?

Edit: if a sponsor paid for that nvm.




Verb didn't even ask to battle Roc. The people want Roc vs Nitty.

:russ: at this nikka Roc posting from a town called "Pleasant Hills." That shyt will generate a bar or two.

I know I need to wait for the footage to come out, but can't we see that the hype is already building for Roc/Nitty? It's been like two days and the conversations have already started and the footage hasn't even dropped.. not even a clip. If they put that footage out in the next couple weeks, we're talking about 1.5-2 months (assuming NOME), or 4-5 months (assuming SM) of buildup, predictions, facebook group arguments, etc.
I don't see how we're "thinking like fans" in this situation. Today, right now, no, that battle is not going to generate the proper revenue. Two months from now, with good footage on Nitty? That battle is going to sell tickets.

If the footage drops and the Ave/Nitty joint is a letdown, I'll fall fully back np.
 

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You're thinking like a fan and not an owner though. These guys (such as many of the posters on here) that follow the culture aren't necessarily the ones funding the actual culture though. What kind of financial reward does URL get putting Rum Nitty against one of their top draws?

LOL @ thinking like a fan.
I'm in international business fam, I'm looking at LONG term money and stability.

What's the benefit of putting Rum against their top draws?
The answer was in my post.

If Nitty beats Roc, his profile is immediately UP there.
Which means, not having to spend as much TIME (= money) building his profile.
To secure this I also said in the post they should let him sign a contract where he's not allowed to battle anyone and anywhere until that battle. (Contracts are there to protect both parties)
If they drop the Ave & Nitty battle his demand will be through the roof (like gjonaj)
But unlike him, Nitty is a Vet.
If he beats Roc he's just a new face (to the casual fan) that is up there with the Top Dogs
That also means URL have built a new top dog in 2 battles instead of a whole year of setting up battles for Nitty to build his profile. (Spending money, risking him falling off)
That way they will gradually get the vets that's aren't worth that Insane money (Rex, etc) out the game.
And instead have different Top Dogs in a faster time span.

It's a low risk high reward situation.
How's that not business smart?

URL is the most respected so they dictate what's hot.

You can't do that approach with every battler.
But Nitty is the perfect example of that method because again..
He has experience against vets.
Had the stellar performance to guarantee the demand.
Has a Top Dog that's on record saying he WANTS to battle him.
(Let's not forget that how TODD holding his own against Hitman made him top tier, SMACK ain't even wanna book that battle.
Hitman had to find his own sponsor to set that up.)
Smack can book Roc a lot easier than Hitman.

How does this not make sense?
 

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Con is past his prime.

Hitman and URL doing business is unlikely.

Shine is a rematch.

Hoffa is better for Summer Madness.

Hollow is an unknown at this point.

The only person Roc is asking for at the moment is Nitty. How many cards are there before NOME? If there's an RvV2 card it wouldn't make sense. This battle has steam so why not? They put Serius/DNA at NOME so they can have Nitty up there. If Roc says he wants Nitty I think they are satisfied enough with Rum's recent work to book it.
I mean I guess we'll see. :yeshrug:
 

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It was only a couple months ago that Rum Nitty was on Angryfan sounding like he wanted to retire. He didn't want to take Ave, he thought it was beneath him.

He humbled himself, took two less than ideal match-ups on the East Coast, now look where his buzz is at.

Some may have forgotten, but Rum battled Danja in Pittsburgh, and the promoter said Smack was going crazy for that one.

It's not out of the question that Rum will get that big push for URL, especially if Chilla is slacking. They are going to ride the hot hand.

I can imagine that a lot of people who skipped over Chess v Rum Nitty when it dropped will go back and watch it now. Who would have thought that battle happened too early.
 

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Hollow's swear to God angle was better than anything Surf did as far as angles.

KD/Dwyane Wade, I wake up to the block > Ate Yo L on the low, If we meek and any other reach Surf had.

Surf's best bar was the cap room line and his AR on MY hip rebuttal was nonsensical. If you're gonna give a pass to that bar, you've gotta give a pas to DNA spraying the machete.
Yeah, this debate would be a waste of both of our times.
 

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It was only a couple months ago that Rum Nitty was on Angryfan sounding like he wanted to retire. He didn't want to take Ave, he thought it was beneath him.

He humbled himself, took two less than ideal match-ups on the East Coast, now look where his buzz is at.

Some may have forgotten, but Rum battled Danja in Pittsburgh, and the promoter said Smack was going crazy for that one.

It's not out of the question that Rum will get that big push for URL, especially if Chilla is slacking. They are going to ride the hot hand.

I can imagine that a lot of people who skipped over Chess v Rum Nitty when it dropped will go back and watch it now. Who would have thought that battle happened too early.

I forgot about this. Who won and where's the footage?
 

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LOL @ thinking like a fan.
I'm in international business fam, I'm looking at LONG term money and stability.

What's the benefit of putting Rum against their top draws?
The answer was in my post.

If Nitty beats Roc, his profile is immediately UP there.
Which means, not having to spend as much TIME (= money) building his profile.
To secure this I also said in the post they should let him sign a contract where he's not allowed to battle anyone and anywhere until that battle. (Contracts are there to protect both parties)
If they drop the Ave & Nitty battle his demand will be through the roof (like gjonaj)
But unlike him, Nitty is a Vet.
If he beats Roc he's just a new face (to the casual fan) that is up there with the Top Dogs
That also means URL have built a new top dog in 2 battles instead of a whole year of setting up battles for Nitty to build his profile. (Spending money, risking him falling off)
That way they will gradually get the vets that's aren't worth that Insane money (Rex, etc) out the game.
And instead have different Top Dogs in a faster time span.

It's a low risk high reward situation.
How's that not business smart?

URL is the most respected so they dictate what's hot.

You can't do that approach with every battler.
But Nitty is the perfect example of that method because again..
He has experience against vets.
Had the stellar performance to guarantee the demand.
Has a Top Dog that's on record saying he WANTS to battle him.
(Let's not forget that how TODD holding his own against Hitman made him top tier, SMACK ain't even wanna book that battle.
Hitman had to find his own sponsor to set that up.)
Smack can book Roc a lot easier than Hitman.

How does this not make sense?
That is where it doesn't make sense. You're coming from the perspective that there is some crazy demand for this battle because Roc said he wants to battle him, when Roc wants to battle any/everyone.

Besides, you can accomplish all of this without putting Rum Nitty on NOME, and having he and Roc battle on some other non-SM, non-NOME card.
 

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I forgot about this. Who won and where's the footage?

I think we all damn near forgot about it. We should be getting it soon, because they have to let it breathe for a few weeks before they drop Rum Nitty/Ave, right?
Not sure if there was a consensus on a winner between Danja & Rum, just remember it being battle of the night.
 
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