Essential The Official Battle Rap Random Thoughts Thread (URL, KOTD, UW etc...)

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So that's 2 average performances by Lux back to back, is Verb/Lux really that much outta the question now? :patrice:
 

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I haven't watched Roc vs Cal yet on purpose. I actually wanted to get input from anyone here who places Roc in high regard as to what they listen look for that gets them hype about either or both of these two. My opinion is documented, but I'm trying to get a more rounded appreciation for the popular goons in battle rap. Give me some notes and ima legitimately give it a try. Not doing this to make a point or go after anyone. Trying to see a different side of it.
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Also taking the bait. I legitimately think JC's peak performances (like his recent one vs Boom) are more memorable than Chilla's (like against Prep). They are both among my favorites, but there's something with JC's delivery and approach that requires absolutely no adjustment in my listening. For Chilla, I (and I bet all of you) have to get yourself ready to listen to Chilla. You have to slow your whole life down, remove all distractions and just listen to Chilla be Chilla. JC has a certain edge to his shyt when he's in the bag that is just undeniable.

I'd take either battle happily.

At this point....even though i got Lux beating Clips...He needs to have haymakers back in his rounds. I know what he was doin vs Clips and it worked he became "well rounded" and realized sometimes simple is more. The particular way lux is delivering his bars right now Chilla or Jc might arguably beat him.

Im kinda pissed at Lux because he know gotdamn well he can go back to his old cadence and still cover every ground he wants in his material...i KNOW how Day feel....i got chills watchin these lux promos/interviews just for him to get up there n still want to experiment with "evolving" his flow...i feel like the And 1 coach, yeah you won the game muthafukka but you still bullshyttin :thumbsdown:
 

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This is not really a discussion on JC vs Chilla.

This discussion is on who has a better chance of beating Lux. Just because I believe Chilla has a better shot than JC doesn't mean I believe Chilla is better than JC. Styles make fights.

JC is a better rapper than Chilla

In fact, JC as an actual rapper is one of the best in the game

Chilla is a better writer & does a much better job of creating material that can capture a large audience in a room.

JC vs Lux post coming up next
Good post. As it stands, Chilla has proven he can stand on that particular stage moreso than JC. Taking that, the crowd, and the adjustments that Chilla makes to keep his pace up, I would probably have to agree.

I want JC to be the answer, but smart money would wait until he gets on stage and does something special.
 

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SM5 has shown me, when it comes to rapping...Day vs Lux would be God status. I mean the day that battled Verb/Solomon/Ooops...none of the bullshyt. Straight rapping..that being said Daylyt would lose clearly if he was indirect all 3 rounds.
I wish I trusted Day. His lyrical ability is there but he panders and plays.
 

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A Hypothetical Matchup of JC vs Loaded Lux

The love JC gets in the Battlezone is absolutely amazing. If I did a poll on this battle, I am quite sure JC would win handily. I don't think anybody gets the love JC gets on here. He wins every hypothetical battle on the coli.

However, I feel like I am the Battlezones' lone wolf. I live in reality. I base my opinion on what I actually see. With JC, you have a guy with over 100 battles on youtube. There's a certain trend with JC. He is who he is.

If your battling someone like a Loaded Lux, it is going to take place in front of a large crowd on PPV. That's just what it is. If we are gonna do this hypothetical battle, we are gonna be realistic about the setting.

It's fair to say in this setting, it's generally harder for a "pen guy" to go over with the crowd. You have to be damn near undeniable to get any kind of love. It would most likely be an underwhelming battle. Everyone would be disappointed & complain that these large rooms are killing battle rap.

Based on what we have seen from JC in a large room

1) His material falls flat in a large room
JC is absolutely cold in a small/medium size room, but damn near a chore to listen to in a large one.

I'm quite surprised no one has brought up as to why JC's material doesn't work in a big room. JC battles his opponent. He raps. He doesn't rap for crowd reaction. It's great for a small room, but not really effective for a large venue. Lux is very similar in that regard, but is more charismatic & has better presentation. He's able to make it work. Most "pen guys" are gonna have their struggles getting crowd love from the verbs, big t's, & even the lux's.

2) Average to poor performer
I don't really know what JC can do here. He is probably the best dancer in battle rap, but it would not really work for his style.

3) He is boring in damn near every top tier guy or large room battle
His battle with Bmagic is boring
His battle with Yung Ill is boring
His battle with JJDD is boring
Boring as hell against K-Shine. The fukk was that? I HATE K SHINE he should have killed that tranny loving nygga

He went to World Domination, in front of a huge audience in Toronto, & got violated by 100 Bullets. He was boring again by the way

He can't rock a large stage. If fukking Charlie Clips, the most charismatic & loved battle rapper couldnt go in there & get the job done, what the fukk is JC gonna do? Clips' whole style is built on getting crowd reaction.

4) bytchy & Whiny

Makes dumb ass expressions when his opponent is rapping

5) Non existent presence against opponents with a name

6) fukk ALL YALL
"Oh he would beat Lux, because he beat Jumpercable in Nebraska in front of 5 people." Fukk all yall dumb ass nyggas with no logic like Angryfan. There's no logic or thought. It's "oh JC would beat Lux because I like him better."

JC's a rapper. He not an emcee. He can't rock a stage. The End.
 
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I haven't watched Roc vs Cal yet on purpose. I actually wanted to get input from anyone here who places Roc in high regard as to what they listen look for that gets them hype about either or both of these two. My opinion is documented, but I'm trying to get a more rounded appreciation for the popular goons in battle rap. Give me some notes and ima legitimately give it a try. Not doing this to make a point or go after anyone. Trying to see a different side of it.
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Watched it once. Liked Cals 1st and rocs 2nd. Ima watch it again and give you a real opinion lol
 

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A Hypothetical Matchup of JC vs Loaded Lux

The love JC gets in the Battlezone is absolutely amazing. If I did a poll on this battle, I am quite sure JC would win handily. I don't think anybody gets the love JC gets on here. He wins every hypothetical battle on the coli.

However, I feel like I am the Battlezones' lone wolf. I live in reality. I base my opinion on what I actually see. With JC, you have a guy with over 100 battles on youtube. There's a certain trend with JC. He is who he is.

If your battling someone like a Loaded Lux, it is going to take place in front of a large crowd on PPV. That's just what it is. If we are gonna do this hypothetical battle, we are gonna be realistic about the setting.

It's fair to say in this setting, it's generally harder for a "pen guy" to go over with the crowd. You have to be damn near undeniable to get any kind of love. It would most likely be an underwhelming battle. Everyone would be disappointed & complain that these large rooms are killing battle rap.

Based on what we have seen from JC in a large room

1) His material falls flat in a large room
JC is absolutely cold in a small/medium size room, but damn near a chore to listen to in a large one.

I'm quite surprised no one has brought up as to why JC's material doesn't work in a big room. JC battles his opponent. He raps. He doesn't rap for crowd reaction. It's great for a small room, but not really effective for a large venue. Lux is very similar in that regard, but is more charismatic & has better presentation. He's able to make it work. Most "pen guys" are gonna have their struggles getting crowd love from the verbs, big t's, & even the lux's.

2) Average to poor performer
I don't really know what JC can do here. He is probably the best dancer in battle rap, but it would not really work for his style.

3) He is boring in damn near every top tier guy or large room battle
His battle with Bmagic is boring
His battle with Yung Ill is boring
His battle with JJDD is boring
Boring as hell against K-Shine. The fukk was that? I HATE K SHINE he should have killed that tranny loving nygga

He went to World Domination, in front of a huge audience in Toronto, & got violated by 100 Bullets. He was boring again by the way

He can't rock a large stage. If fukking Charlie Clips, the most charismatic & loved battle rapper couldnt go in there & get the job done, what the fukk is JC gonna do? Clips' whole style is built on getting crowd reaction.

4) bytchy & Whiny

Makes dumb ass expressions when his opponent is rapping

5) Non existent presence against opponents with a name

6) fukk ALL YALL
"Oh he would beat Lux, because he beat Jumpercable in Nebraska in front of 5 people." Fukk all yall dumb ass nyggas with no logic like Angryfan. There's no logic or thought. It's "oh JC would beat Lux because I like him better."

JC's a rapper. He not an emcee. He can't rock a stage. The End.
Another top 3'post you on a roll :wow:
I think the only reason it comes off like I hate Jc is because of the weird amount of love he gets on here like he's a god tier battler. The nikka is not that great and has a lot of flaws. The fact that JC and lux is even something that gets brought up on here is hilarious. Jc can't beat a top tier but he can get in there with lux and stay alive :dead:
 
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