Essential The Official Battle Rap Random Thoughts Thread (URL, KOTD, UW etc...)

[cornercommission2k12]

Some of these c00ns must enjoy listening to Fat Joe call black people ****** on the daily because he *may* have a black great great great grandparent.

im not going to sit and be called c00n from someone who clearly has no grasp on historical context and simply formulate opinions on the fly.

fat joe is not calling people nikkas in the same context that a white racist in a bar would be doing so. again, the word nikka is apart of their common vernacular. they use it as freely as we do. not in a malicious content but simply in common use. so when they use it in music or in a battle, and they not directly looking at black people and saying "you a disgusting nikka" then that explains why its been no offense from most of us when they use it. you clearly dont like to admit when your wrong on a point and continue to formulate the argument in a way that benefits you. and its crazy.

you could have a white person with a great great great great african grandparent, who still cant say nikka around us, why? cause he is white and the word nikka is not apart of their common vernacular and is not used daily in the norm. its used solely for disrespect. again its the context. by going with your standards you lend credit to idiot white folks who say well the rappers say the word nikka why cant i? why? cause of the context. thats why.

 

[stepbackj34spud]

fukk is y'all nikkas talking about?

Anybody has bootlegs to the cac of the dot battles?

 

[Ardamus]

Take a break from being mad at Diz and shyt and look at that Nunn Nunn vs. Born battle. shyt was a dope back and forth. KOTD GZ trying to come up on some more street shyt now.

 

[dennis roadman]

For example, Brazil.
The original inhabitants of Brazil (South America) are BLACK.
There is no physical/genetic difference between an African and a Brazilian before slavery.
They suffered THE SAME slavery as the Africans that were shipped from Africa to The States.
This is a historic fact. Let's not forget a lot of Black people in the US simply don't know their black history outside of what happened to the black people that were dropped in the US.

Anyone that doesn't immediately think of a Black person when they hear Brazilian is uneducated.

Yet these same Black people are now defined as Latino because of the language that they speak (Portuguese, Latin)
Which is inaccurate by genetics and only fits if you define a Latino by linguistic.

i fukk with what you're sayin on the whole, but i wanna say a few things because i dont think anyone in this thread knows brazil like that

original inhabitants are what english speakers would call native americans, what brazilians might call indígena (or just use the tribe name if they know it). i think you knew that, not calling you dumb, just wanted to clear that up because they play a bigger part than their brothers in the states do in terms of national identity

when you wanna talk about who can and cant say the word in brazilian terms, shyt gets murky as fukk because:

1) political correctness doesnt exist in brazil
2) quilombos (runaway slave communities that took in arabs, jews, portuguese fugitives - think seminoles in the US), pardos (traditionally thrice-mixed between indian, black, and european, but today can just mean brown, or not), and lusotropicalism (so-called racial mixing is a strength of brazil and all colors and cultures must be celebrated as they contribute to brazilian identity - super controversial but very influential)
3) portuguese rulers encouraged settlers to intermarry with free black and indian peoples. and when napoleon was throwing empires in the bushes, the portuguese emperor just dipped outta europe and set up shop in brazil, enforcing the idea that the colonized is the same as the colonizer, and they shared an identity (obviously flawed and is the basis for lusotropicalism, and was used to validate later portuguese conquests of angola, india, and mozambique)
4) it's common for white people to call black friends nega or negão, but wouldn't call a black person they dont know that (unless they're just being racist or demeaning, which is too common)
5) there's whole regions of brazil where you dont see black people, or even indians, so it's not wrong to think of a non-black person when you think of brazil. but it is wrong to not think of black people at all, of course

latinos are latinos breh, you can be any color and be latino

all this writing and rio still has absolutely zero battle scene barkin on someone on a street corner just does not have the cultural hooks that it does in the US

 

[ReasonableMatic]

i fukk with what you're sayin on the whole, but i wanna say a few things because i dont think anyone in this thread knows brazil like that

original inhabitants are what english speakers would call native americans, what brazilians might call indígena (or just use the tribe name if they know it). i think you knew that, not calling you dumb, just wanted to clear that up because they play a bigger part than their brothers in the states do in terms of national identity

when you wanna talk about who can and cant say the word in brazilian terms, shyt gets murky as fukk because:

1) political correctness doesnt exist in brazil
2) quilombos (runaway slave communities that took in arabs, jews, portuguese fugitives - think seminoles in the US), pardos (traditionally thrice-mixed between indian, black, and european, but today can just mean brown, or not), and lusotropicalism (so-called racial mixing is a strength of brazil and all colors and cultures must be celebrated as they contribute to brazilian identity - super controversial but very influential)
3) portuguese rulers encouraged settlers to intermarry with free black and indian peoples. and when napoleon was throwing empires in the bushes, the portuguese emperor just dipped outta europe and set up shop in brazil, enforcing the idea that the colonized is the same as the colonizer, and they shared an identity (obviously flawed and is the basis for lusotropicalism, and was used to validate later portuguese conquests of angola, india, and mozambique)
4) it's common for white people to call black friends nega or negão, but wouldn't call a black person they dont know that (unless they're just being racist or demeaning, which is too common)
5) there's whole regions of brazil where you dont see black people, or even indians, so it's not wrong to think of a non-black person when you think of brazil. but it is wrong to not think of black people at all, of course

latinos are latinos breh, you can be any color and be latino

all this writing and rio still has absolutely zero battle scene barkin on someone on a street corner just does not have the cultural hooks that it does in the US

Yup, that's what I was referring to sayin "Latino" doesn't mean white or euro ancestry by default.

Definitely did since I been out there, you also have the Arawak, Kalina, Akurio, Tiroyo, Wayana Native Americans out there. I have African and Native ancestry as well.
When I went over to South America I was fascinated even seeing pictures of dark skinned people with "straight hair" and bow and arrows and all that out there, it was a lifechanging experience soaking all that history of slavery/colonization in throughout the years

Like you said the term "******/nikka" has been present wherever slavery and colonization occurred just in different languages. From nega/negao w/ the Portuguese to Negra w/ the Spanish to Marrons w/ the French.

Bottom line is what we said.
Latino can be anything genetically cause of history and should be treated as such when addressing the subject.

Can't wait to go back out there breh, It's looking like South Africa first and South America after that

Queenszflip said on AFR that Beasley addressed Diz on FB

 

[dennis roadman]

Yup, that's what I was referring to sayin "Latino" doesn't mean white or euro ancestry by default.

Definitely did since I been out there, you also have the Arawak, Kalina, Akurio, Tiroyo, Wayana Native Americans out there. I have African and Native ancestry as well.
When I went over to South America I was fascinated even seeing pictures of dark skinned people with "straight hair" and bow and arrows and all that out there, it was a lifechanging experience soaking all that history of slavery/colonization in throughout the years

Like you said the term "******/nikka" has been present wherever slavery and colonization occurred just in different languages. From nega/negao w/ the Portuguese to Negra w/ the Spanish to Marrons w/ the French.

Bottom line is what we said.
Latino can be anything genetically cause of history and should be treated as such when addressing the subject.

Can't wait to go back out there breh, It's looking like South Africa first and South America after that

Queenszflip said on AFR that Beasley addressed Diz on FB

yeah i forgot to say fukk dizaster too

notice how he and TODD sparked debates over non battle rap shyt

one message to take from that, both them need to get the fukk outta battle rap

 

[Big Jo]

Queenszflip said on AFR that Beasley addressed Diz on FB

details breh?

 

[TheObserver]

I keep seeing people say "Diz probably always say it with his friends"
"He was probably tired of not being himself and holding it in"

If he would have been saying the "N Word" from early on in his battles,we wouldn't be having this conversation.

But the fact that he felt like he had to hide it,means he dont feel 100 percent comfortable saying it in public..

Which mean that he should be saying it.

He said "Im tired of not being myself"
And thats funny because he claims he is so real.. but been faking the whole time.

Diz wasnt saying The N Word in the Total Slaughter House.. If so Marv wouldnt have been so shocked.

Thats the shady thing to me.. If you gone be one way then be one way.

 

[ReasonableMatic]

details breh?

Beasley posted on FB he felt like Dizaster said N!GGER
AngryFansRadio Live!
Beasley said Dizaster said it (nikka) with the ER - Queenzflip (2:31:40)

Gotchu breh

 

[Mook]

Who posted the ored vs twerk matchup? I need that in my life.

 

[MicIsGod]

Diz followed that with a black lives matter angle. If you don't see what's wrong with that then you're white end of story.

 

[Burnshen]

Y'all can't be black not understanding why Cortez and moneybags can say nikka lol

Breh every time you post I read that shyt in Goodz voice cause of your avy and that shyt got me DYING

 

[A.R.$]

Beasley posted on FB he felt like Dizaster said N!GGER
AngryFansRadio Live!
Beasley said Dizaster said it (nikka) with the ER - Queenzflip (2:31:40)

Gotchu breh

BTW Caps was c00ning his ass off defending diz

 

[ReasonableMatic]

BTW Caps was c00ning his ass off defending diz

Word, shyt was cringeworthy SMMFH

I don't give a fukk about the nikkas Diz smokes with on the daily, shyt was outta line to put out there.
The Black Lives Matter angle Diz took after it was OD. Ain't no defending that shyt

Tony Bro & Tony Polo came w/ clear contexts and historical facts and son wasn't tryna hear that SMMFH

 

[JuvenileHell]

Word, shyt was cringeworthy SMMFH

I don't give a fukk about the nikkas Diz smokes with on the daily, shyt was outta line to put out there.
The Black Lives Matter angle Diz took after it was OD. Ain't no defending that shyt

Tony Bro & Tony Polo came w/ clear contexts and historical facts and son wasn't tryna hear that SMMFH

What was the BLM angle?