The Second Apron is ruining the NBA

[Buckeye Fever]

I still don't know what a 2nd apron is

 

[Left.A1]

This is you answer right here in a sense. The league definitely exploded with Magic vs Bird and later Jordan, but the league also took care of LA and Boston and NBC rode Jordan and the Bulls to extraordinary heights. No restrictive CBA was going to be implemented to screw all that up. My main opinion is that once Bron, Curry, KD, Harden, Kyrie, etc. hang it up the league will be void of superstars so now the pivot is to usher in parity and an even playing surface.

No more team ups, no more Big 3's, these new kids could care less about teaming up for a ring, Euro stars want to stay with the team that drafted them no matter how bad they are, the guys that had next up - Zion, Ant, Ja's have off court issues, WembyMania not taking off. Plus all stars worth a damn are under max contracts with their current team and it takes a trade to acquire a star these days. The unrestricted superstar free agent is damn near a myth and unicorn in this new NBA. The talk of a certain small market teams not being a free agent destination is wiped away cause the majority of free agents now are just good role players. The stars are locked up under max contracts.

I get folks not liking this new CBA and its aprons, but its a different economy, a different landscape. You not maximizing potential and profits if the league is only about 4-5 cities. The old former CBA works if you have superstars galore wanting to move around and chase rings. With social media in play, you can become a star in any city if you ball out. NYC and LA takes half your paycheck anyway. Even if we do go back to the old CBA, do these youngsters hang out with each other? Would Ant want to team up with Cade in Detroit? Zion has yet to play a playoff game. These new dudes just want their bread, play video games, and pull IG hoes. "Ring culture" is whatever to them.

There's literally no evidence of what you wrote in the bolded. The league has never been more profitable than over the last decade prior to these new rules and secondly the bolded statement directly contradicts with the facts mentioned in the underlined section you wrote just above


Confused coli business analyst don't know what to think anymore LMAO

 

[Ed MOTHERFUCKING G]

I still don't know what a 2nd apron is

basically a SUPER luxury tax

 

[pete clemenza]

Not even real parity but forced, Artificial parity. This is what happens when you listen to a loud minority of NBA fans.

Parity is always artificial and forced.

 

[CHICAGO]

THANK CJ MCCOLLUM FOR THAT



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[Buckeye Fever]

basically a SUPER luxury tax

Damn, well I guess it's really important for draft picks to produce right away on them cheap rookie deals. Days of the dynasty are damn near over

 

[concise]

CJ McCollum reading this thread like

THANK CJ MCCOLLUM FOR THAT



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[tremonthustler1]

They should give teams an amnesty clause for sure, maybe one every 3 years or something

Somethiny like the supermax part of the extension not count towards the cap would be okay too. Maybe just 1 idk

Deals are 4 years, 5 years max if they’re your own guy and you want amnesty clauses?

Some of the deals we’ll see will be trash the second they’re agreed to. I’m not bailing them out.

 

[CHICAGO]

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[pete clemenza]

There's literally no evidence of what you wrote in the bolded. The league has never been more profitable than over the last decade prior to these new rules and secondly the bolded statement directly contradicts with the facts mentioned in the underlined section you wrote just above


Confused coli business analyst don't know what to think anymore LMAO

They got the TV deals in place and they're great. But there's still less expendable income, people getting laid off, more competition to spend time and money elsewhere with other leagues, streaming services, video games, etc. Keeping more cities with their fans in the hunt and with an hail mary's chance of winning a ring seems to be the move instead of everybody knowing its the one Superteam that's in play championship to lose. Everybody talks ratings on here to death right? They got the TV money, now they want more teams and cities in the mix which is even more tickets sales, merch sold, and possibly better ratings down the line if people except parity over superteams and 2-3 cities getting all the shine.

Vegas and Seattle should've been announced and made a done deal after the new TV deal was signed. But now does the NBA want to fight for ticket sales and eyeballs against the Seahawks, NHL's Kraken, and University of Washington Football who's gone big time from joining the Big Ten? Vegas is struggling, is there expendable income out there for a NBA team after the Raiders, Vegas Knights, Vegas A's(?), WNBA's Ace's for a city in the desert and dependable on tourist still flocking in year round? 3-4 years ago they would put teams there no matter what, but now in 2025 and beyond they have to think these things through fully. I didn't say nothing wrong.

 

[Primetime]

I mean...

KCP was trash in the playoffs 2 years ago for DEN and was trash with Orlando this year virtually all season, so why can't we just be honest and point out that maybe if Murray and MPJr played like 200m max players instead of always being inconsistent or injured, we wouldn't have hypothetical convos about overpaying washed role players? Why can't we just admit that Tatum and Brown be fukking up with their own inconsistent play (like what we saw in these past playoffs) and would not need Jrue or Porzingis (who barely even participated in last year's title run) if they just got their shyt together?

Clippers had their "superteam" core for 5 years. 5-years for Kawhi's knees to get it together or for Paul George to not play like a bytch every season. KD, Harden, Kyrie.... KD, Kyrie, Simmons.... KD, Booker, CP3, Ayton. How come we didn't have 3-years of BK vs LA (either one) superteam Finals? Did the CBA make Kyrie anti-vaxx, Harden fat, AD injury-prone, LeBron old, etc? Why didn't we have a Knicks / Clippers Finals this season? 2nd apron prevented nyggas from boxing out vs Denver? or choking game 1 vs Tyrese?

Maybe there is a talent shortage, or nyggas aint eating their vitamins bc we been had some cool fukking teams that kept on droppin the ball on their own merit regardless of cap restrictions.

 

[Standing on business]

They better opt-out after the 28-29 season and do something about them aprons.

Luxury tax money goes to the League (Half) and the other half goes to the owners who stayed under the luxury tax threshold ridiculous.


Teams that drafted well shouldn’t be penalized for drafting well.

The players and individual salaries don't really get screwed though do they? Just the team as a whole

 

[Mrhateeverything]

Let it be like baseball..no salary cap

Forced parity isnt cool i dont care how you slice . Thats what we have rn

 

[Left.A1]

They got the TV deals in place and they're great. But there's still less expendable income, people getting laid off, more competition to spend time and money elsewhere with other leagues, streaming services, video games, etc. Keeping more cities with their fans in the hunt and with an hail mary's chance of winning a ring seems to be the move instead of everybody knowing its the one Superteam that's in play championship to lose. Everybody talks ratings on here to death right? They got the TV money, now they want more teams and cities in the mix which is even more tickets sales, merch sold, and possibly better ratings down the line if people except parity over superteams and 2-3 cities getting all the shine.

Vegas and Seattle should've been announced and made a done deal after the new TV deal was signed. But now does the NBA want to fight for ticket sales and eyeballs against the Seahawks, NHL's Kraken, and University of Washington Football who's gone big time from joining the Big Ten? Vegas is struggling, is there expendable income out there for a NBA team after the Raiders, Vegas Knights, Vegas A's(?), WNBA's Ace's for a city in the desert and dependable on tourist still flocking in year round? 3-4 years ago they would put teams there no matter what, but now in 2025 and beyond they have to think these things through fully. I didn't say nothing wrong.

There's literally no evidence of any of the babble that you wrote in the bolded. As I said, the league has never been more profitable than over the last decade prior to these new rules. Those are the facts…. It seems you're struggling with those facts

 

[ISO]

I hate they called it a “second apron” those Jews concocting bullshyt legalese

Honestly yeah it’s bullshyt I saw the Celtics would have to pay $300M in taxes to keep their team together