Twista admits to using a Ghostwriter

[Ronald McDonald]

Here's the thing....

I don't care if rappers have ghostwriters as long as they're up front with it. I've said that since day 1 of the Drake fiasco.

If I had a problem with ghostwriting across the board there would be no Eazy-E, Ye, or Dre in my playlist.

This Twista shyt is to me because he said his best shyt was him. He'd already established himself as "Twista" in hip-hop before he used ghostwriters on 3-4 songs, across a 25 year long career.

I'm sure Drake stans are salivating at the chance to use this interview to validate him....let me put an end to that.

Drake was accused of using ghost writers since day 1, and never addressed it, even after the reference track stuff. He just did soft ball interviews and dodged the question.

That is what I have a problem with. Because he built a career and legacy off someone else, and won't even admit it. And that's where Twista went full retard in the interview, saying stuff like that doesn't matter.

Fred.

is drake including Quentin miller in the writing credits every song he had a hand in writing not being "up front with it"?

building a career/legacy off of someone else = 5 songs on one album that he put out when he was already at his peak popularity wise? Drake built his career off of SFG, TML and TC, the latter of which he took a few singing verses from the weeknd (something most rnb artists do). Drake writing hits for other artists and being so consistent with it aided in building his career/legacy as well.

yeah, drake hasn't said "yeah i used ghostwriters" but he's alluded to and practically admitted the fact on multiple occasions since he was ousted (calling meek a snitch on charged up, "sometimes i need inspiration," etc.)

and when did Eazy e, Kanye or Dr Dre ever straight up admit to using ghostwriters? When were they ever up front about using ghostwriters?

 

[Lucky Me]

y'all making excuses for him but y'all was crucifying Drake.

 

[BigL187]

scratching him off my top 30

 

[wizworld]

I guarantee 95% of the board doesn't even know him as Tung Twista.

Fred.

That's part of my point. Some guys already knew not to take him 100% seriously as an artist already. It doesn't make sense to find out he's had songs written for him, and decide TODAY that you've lost respect for him.... unless you never heard of "Tung Twista".

 

[So-Chi]

So, you were not around for chi rock twista and exposed yourself, then.

Yeah, I like adrenaline rush twista but that album is a culturally a guilty pleasure and the reason why you could get a slew of them in Chicago used.
Twista selling out was a big deal culturally.
You talking about the grassroots signed artist that culturally used to have no discrimination and was at damn near any function that occurred back then.
Blue gargoyle as a venue has a draw from twista /vakill/cavalier.
Chi-rock, illstate assassins,...twists was there.
So, he change was definitely noted.a
It is just the large volume of pop fans to rap squelched out the culture from having a voice.
Which is the playbook all these labels continue to do.


Art Barr

Art Barr get the fukk outta here. I fukked with Tung Twista and beyond. I didn't expose myself because you didn't like adrenaline rush Twista dude, I don't believe in your place in Chicago hip hop history like you do.

 

[So-Chi]

Imagine if you used to be at chi rock meetings and see him every week.
Then, you go to college.
Dea and chi-rock is on some other shyt.
Then, out of nowhere crucial shows up and then twista is like this.
Plus, that sellout radio station talembout hip hop lives is on bullshyt, too.
It was like bizzarro world, breh.

We still living bizzarro world.


Art Barr


Art Barr

So he didn't rap like this until Crucial Conflict?

 

[bordeaux]

I loved Twista growing up, but lets be real here...breh wasn't exactly known for having the deepest and freshest lyrics

So it's really whatever to me

i dunno about deep, but twista is def. respected as being a great lyricist beyond just rapping fast. and i know no one's gonna question common, still being respected as being one of the greatest of all time. it just goes on to prove that drake was right; its common practice. and no one in the industry batted an eye b/c rappers yall consider wack to those heralded as greats hav likely in some form gotten 'help'

 

[wizworld]

Gospel, even cats like GZA did a 180 to improve their career for the better.

It seemed like GZA switched up alot, but aside from "Come Do Me" I always felt like GZA just had better beats & promotion the 2nd time around. Most of the first album would be heat if he had better production. The raps were on point.

 

[Bluelark]

is drake including Quentin miller in the writing credits every song he had a hand in writing not being "up front with it"?

building a career/legacy off of someone else = 5 songs on one album that he put out when he was already at his peak popularity wise? Drake built his career off of SFG, TML and TC, the latter of which he took a few singing verses from the weeknd (something most rnb artists do). Drake writing hits for other artists and being so consistent with it aided in building his career/legacy as well.

yeah, drake hasn't said "yeah i used ghostwriters" but he's alluded to and practically admitted the fact on multiple occasions since he was ousted (calling meek a snitch on charged up, "sometimes i need inspiration," etc.)

and when did Eazy e, Kanye or Dr Dre ever straight up admit to using ghostwriters? When were they ever up front about using ghostwriters?

Kanye and Dre are given passes for using ghostwriters because they produce music for themselves and others (mind you Drake has written songs for big name artists too). And ppl like to bring up the fact that Drake has boasted that he has done has raps w/ no help, but Kanye has said the same thing too.

 

[gho3st]

This breaks my heart breh

think he used writers for Adrenaline Rush too?

 

[Pazzy]

It seemed like GZA switched up alot, but aside from "Come Do Me" I always felt like GZA just had better beats & promotion the 2nd time around. Most of the first album would be heat if he had better production. The raps were on point.

Well... there were some songs that were on point like living foul and phony as you wanna be. Think that for the most part they told him what to do for that album even the rhymes. They didn't want him to get too deep with the rhymes or too explicit.

 

[NormanConnors]

It seemed like GZA switched up alot, but aside from "Come Do Me" I always felt like GZA just had better beats & promotion the 2nd time around. Most of the first album would be heat if he had better production. The raps were on point.

Fair enough/wouldn't argue this, still wasn't liquid swords gza tho

 

[Art Barr]

So he didn't rap like this until Crucial Conflict?

No, his content was way more focused culturally.
He completely switched and we could say up skill as a songwriter with kayex/traxsta/toxic.
In a commercial context, do or die, crucial. And twista.
Pretty much created the content and sonic range for rap moving forward skillwise and in execution .
That now, every record is a twista record in some form commercially.


Art Barr

 

[Ronald]

Yea he's really up front about using writers

 

[So-Chi]

No, his content was way more focused culturally.
He completely switched and we could say up skill as a songwriter with kayex/traxsta/toxic.
In a commercial context, do or die, crucial. And twista.
Pretty much created the content and sonic range for rap moving forward skillwise and in execution .
That now, every record is a twista record in some form commercially.


Art Barr[/QUOTE


Being honest, what's wrong with that? He helped create a sound that the Midwest became known for and stayed true to Chicago. One of the few that hasn't moved from here and stayed true to what he is, I can't get with this tearing down Chicago artist shyt.