Religion/Spirituality Vegetarianism, Veganism, and just reducing your meat intake.

[The ADD]

*subs*

 

[The_King_of_Everything]

Avoid the fructose, sucrose. The complex carbs will give you the glucose. So will fatty acids.

Throw the fruit in the bushes brah.

Fruits are essential to life tho da fukk!?

 

[Type Username Here]

Fruits are essential to life tho da fukk!?

Source? The Inuit studies suggest this can't be true.

I meant it in a dietary manner. I cycle through paleo/keto regimes when I'm not doing mass building routines (it's been a while), and keto requires 0% simple sugar. It's honestly the best I've ever felt when I'm cycling on absolutely NO simple sugars, including fruit.

I give fruit to my child. I eat fruit If I'm going to do intensive cardio like running or swimming. I also eat SMALL portions of fruit when I'm not cycling through a keto routine.

The undisputed fact is that high levels of fructose affects the body and mind. It isn't meant to be eaten as substitute for an entire meal from what I gather.

Once again, I'll be the only one in here referencing actual science:

A new UCLA rat study is the first to show how a diet steadily high in fructose slows the brain, hampering memory and learning — and how omega-3 fatty acids can counteract the disruption. The peer-reviewed Journal of Physiology publishes the findings in its May 15 edition.

"Our findings illustrate that what you eat affects how you think," said Fernando Gomez-Pinilla, a professor of neurosurgery at the David Geffen School of Medicine at UCLA and a professor of integrative biology and physiology in the UCLA College of Letters and Science. "Eating a high-fructose diet over the long term alters your brain's ability to learn and remember information. But adding omega-3 fatty acids to your meals can help minimize the damage."

The study also goes on to say:

"We're less concerned about naturally occurring fructose in fruits, which also contain important antioxidants," explained Gomez-Pinilla, who is also a member of UCLA's Brain Research Institute and Brain Injury Research Center. "We're more concerned about the fructose in high-fructose corn syrup, which is added to manufactured food products as a sweetener and preservative."

I make a personal decision to cut out fructose period. Some of you should try to do it for a week. You'll quickly realize how addictive it actually is.


http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla/this-is-your-brain-on-sugar-ucla-233992.aspx

 

[GetInTheTruck]

http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/07/31/making-the-case-for-eating-fruit/?src=me&_r=0

Experts agree that we are eating too much sugar, which is contributing to obesity and other health problems. But in the rush to avoid sugar, many low-carb dieters and others are avoiding fruits. But fresh fruit should not become a casualty in the sugar wars, many nutrition experts say.

Dr. David Ludwig, the director of the New Balance Foundation Obesity Prevention Center at Boston Children’s Hospital, said that sugar consumed in fruit is not linked to any adverse health effects, no matter how much you eat. In a recent perspective piece in The Journal of the American Medical Association, he cited observational studies that showed that increased fruit consumption is tied to lower body weight and a lower risk of obesity-associated diseases.

I'll take my chances with fruit.

couple more links debunking this "fruit is bad" nonsense:

http://www.discovergoodnutrition.com/2011/02/the-truth-about-sugars-in-fruit/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/29/fruit-sugar-versus-white-sugar_n_3497795.html

 

[The_King_of_Everything]

Yeah fukk that *eats orange and bananas*

 

[Type Username Here]

http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/07/31/making-the-case-for-eating-fruit/?src=me&_r=0

Experts agree that we are eating too much sugar, which is contributing to obesity and other health problems. But in the rush to avoid sugar, many low-carb dieters and others are avoiding fruits. But fresh fruit should not become a casualty in the sugar wars, many nutrition experts say.

Dr. David Ludwig, the director of the New Balance Foundation Obesity Prevention Center at Boston Children’s Hospital, said that sugar consumed in fruit is not linked to any adverse health effects, no matter how much you eat. In a recent perspective piece in The Journal of the American Medical Association, he cited observational studies that showed that increased fruit consumption is tied to lower body weight and a lower risk of obesity-associated diseases.

I'll take my chances with fruit.

couple more links debunking this "fruit is bad" nonsense:

http://www.discovergoodnutrition.com/2011/02/the-truth-about-sugars-in-fruit/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/29/fruit-sugar-versus-white-sugar_n_3497795.html

You posted three pieces containing opinions, two given by people with clear bias. Not a single peer reviewed scientific journal.

Fruits contain fructose. Fructose, in all forms, have been shown to have negative effects. The only thing that makes fruit more acceptable is that it provides antioxidants, which can be extracted to avoid fructose.

Like I said to anyone here, what is the harm in doing it for one week? You'll quickly learn that you basically go through withdrawal. Not eating fruits for a week or two at a time won't kill you. Cut all simple sugars for one week, including fruit. Take in only complex carbs (leafy veggies) and fish.

Feel it for yourself.

 

[Type Username Here]

If you want to consume fructose en masse, don't let my opinion and the science deter you. Keep doing you.

But I've seen the benefits for myself and others when cutting off all simple sugars, and that includes fruits.

 

[GetInTheTruck]

Coupke

You posted three pieces containing opinions, two given by people with clear bias. Not a single peer reviewed scientific journal.

Fruits contain fructose. Fructose, in all forms, have been shown to have negative effects. The only thing that makes fruit more acceptable is that it provides antioxidants, which can be extracted to avoid fructose.

Like I said to anyone here, what is the harm in doing it for one week? You'll quickly learn that you basically go through withdrawal. Not eating fruits for a week or two at a time won't kill you. Cut all simple sugars for one week, including fruit. Take in only complex carbs (leafy veggies) and fish.

Feel it for yourself.

Oh right because the nutritionists you choose to believe aren't biased at all

get outta here with that, you yourself said that the studies you cited were like 1-3 years old...in other words it's "trendy" right now.

 

[Type Username Here]

Coupke


Oh right because the nutritionists you choose to believe aren't biased at all

get outta here with that, you yourself said that the studies you cited were like 1-3 years old...in other words it's "trendy" right now.

Friend, at least put your biases aside and read carefully:

"Our findings illustrate that what you eat affects how you think," said Fernando Gomez-Pinilla, a professor of neurosurgery at the David Geffen School of Medicine at UCLA and a professor of integrative biology and physiology in the UCLA College of Letters and Science. "Eating a high-fructose diet over the long term alters your brain's ability to learn and remember information. But adding omega-3 fatty acids to your meals can help minimize the damage."

 

[Julius Skrrvin]

As me and @Serious have discussed before, nutritional science is pretty fluid imo. Lots of conflicting opinions, etc. This thread isnt meant to tell you exactly what to eat, it tells you why you should eat more plant products.

 

[Type Username Here]

As me and @Serious have discussed before, nutritional science is pretty fluid imo. Lots of conflicting opinions, etc. This thread isnt meant to tell you exactly what to eat, it tells you why you should eat more plant products.

I didn't mean to derail the thread. My apologies.

I won't respond any further in here.

 

[babylon1]

Researchers are finding large amounts of transglutaminase, meat glue, in diseased tissues within the body. Cataracts is one example and another is a rash. Herpetiformis, which Medline Plus describes as a highly itchy chronic rash composed of bumps and blisters that last a long time. Homeopaths often say this is the body’s way of responding during detox. The body is trying to push out the toxic substance forming these responses.

Yesterday’s post on meat glue propagated many comments in private groups leading me down more rabbit trails of research. If you did not see yesterday’s post please link back for a read.

Transglutaminase must be noted as an ingredient on a food label. It can be listed in many forms including: transglutaminase, TG enzyme, enzyme or TGP enzyme. If a product uses meat glue the label should also read formed or reformed such as formed beef tenderloin. The challenge is a formed beef tenderloin with enzyme is the ingredient list can easily be read over as safe even by foodies.

Meat glue underwent some drastic criticism from consumers, most specifically from consumers with celiac disease.The same issues affecting celiac patients affect some children with hyperactivity or other behavioral issues. The manufacturer of meat glue, Ajinomoto, responded by saying eating meat glue is the same as eating compounds occurring naturally from cooking meat or fish. They added Transglutaminase is a safe product for people diagnosed with celiac disease.

The Truth in Labeling Campaign stepped forward and began researching and testing. They found many people who have celiacs have intestinal issues with MSG. Some protease enzymes produce MSG as they break down proteins. Ajinomoto is the founder of MSG. Celiac patients also have issues with Maltodextrin and Sodium Caseinate which are both ingredients in some of the meat glue products that can contain MSG, even though MSG is not on the ingredient l

 

[The_King_of_Everything]

Brehs I love chipotle tho

 

[bouncy]

You posted three pieces containing opinions, two given by people with clear bias. Not a single peer reviewed scientific journal.

Fruits contain fructose. Fructose, in all forms, have been shown to have negative effects. The only thing that makes fruit more acceptable is that it provides antioxidants, which can be extracted to avoid fructose.

Like I said to anyone here, what is the harm in doing it for one week? You'll quickly learn that you basically go through withdrawal. Not eating fruits for a week or two at a time won't kill you. Cut all simple sugars for one week, including fruit. Take in only complex carbs (leafy veggies) and fish.

Feel it for yourself.

Man, I know you have an issue with fructose because of how you're living but, you're wrong. Fructose enhances iron absorption, as well as keep your liver glycogen reserves full so you won't lose muscle. It is also good for your brain because sugar enhances dopamine release, and since fruits has fructose along with sucrose, more sucrose can do it's things instead of trying to fill your liver glycogen levels as well. That study you keep posting is referring to fructose itself meaning drinks that contain high fructose corn syrup. Fructose in fruit form is one of the best things for your physical health, and brain health.

I agree you shouldn't make fruit your main meal but to say it's bad because it has fructose in it is speaking from ignorance. Eating fruit will enhance brain health to you allow you to think quickly, and help preserve muscle tone.

Also, I didn't eat fruit for YEARS, and felt good but as I got older the natural good feeling wasn't there, then when I ate fruit or high sugar junk food, everything came back, and that's when I learned how important fruit is. Also being a vegetarian I need my iron, and eating foods with some type of saturated fat isn't something I want to do all the time(saturated fat enhances iron absorption), so eating dried fruit helps make sure I have a consistent source of iron since fructose enhances iron absorption, as well as keep it in the system longer.

 

[OsO]

TUH you're in here buggin bro...

if folks wanna try your diet then cool, but in no way should you be trying to imply fruit=fructose=bad and therefore people shouldn't eat fruit.

different fruits come with different levels of sugar for one, and two fruits are holistic in the sense that all their components are balanced in a way that is most beneficial for our digestion and health. for humans the two healthiest food groups on the planet are fruits and vegetables, and there are many different types of fruit that carry different nutritional properties. please be for real.