Washington Post: Hookup Culture Isn’t The Real Problem Facing Singles Today. It’s Math.

[dennis roadman]

I agree. But new posters join and drop random gems, new outlooks, new opinions, etc. Just have to be patient and read through the same myopic minutia.

nah its the same soup, reheated

only thing of note i read in here from skimming is dude who said he was gonna settle down with the next attractive woman he had chemistry with

but that IS marriage. you're with someone you really like and don't feel the need to hunt anymore so you get married. there's very little romance in it if you're attractive and have charm, there will ALWAYS be sexual options for you, especially if you age well.

marriage is just saying you're good, you're done eating, for whatever reason - caring for the other person, tired of managing a roster, et al

but let TLR tell it, everyone is fukked and relationships dont work. this forum has an incredibly high anxiety rate, all masked in "doing me, everyone else is full of shyt"

 

[LadySimone]

So, you say sell us out.
All, because we as black men are not in charge of our economic/capital base?

Is this what I see you trying to deflect on.
Run away from our problems because massa made us.
Is that what you are insinuating, and trying to make it like it is a real realistic possibly successful situation.


Art Barr

I don't see any black man in here saying black men need to collectively raise their economic destiny because it's hurting the community and hurting the prospects of relatively educated women to pair-bond with her likely partner to build a firm solid black middle class. (Study economics and understand that the middle class drives strong economies- any modern economy rests on the shoulders of the middle class. You can't have a stably wealthy dynamic civil society without one).

What I do see are a bunch of losers taunting black women with being their next jump off and cum dumpster.

Don't talk shyt to me about massa when black men stay with his own dikk in his mouth. I don't want to be tied to a community of promiscuous men and discarded women.

 

[Uncle Kingpin]

I dont know if this point has been brought up yet, but women graduating from college more than men on a numbers basis alone doesn't account for what these degrees are. Alot of women are getting degrees, congratulations i guess.....but too many of them have degrees in arts, english, social sciences, etc which dont even pay what a blue collar man with a trade's job does. Getting a degree in mezo-american basketweaving honestly does not count. So these women graduate with a worthless piece of paper and somehow feel entitled to an educated and financially successful man, when they are neither themselves.

And it is a math problem, but not in the way this article has put it. If you look at dating as a man, from a cost-benefit analysis there are hardly any advantages to being married to a modern "educated" woman but countless disadvantages. They don't cleandon't cookgain weightboring in bed
spend your moneythen leave with the kids and take half in divorce.

 

[Bless't]

nah its the same soup, reheated

only thing of note i read in here from skimming is dude who said he was gonna settle down with the next attractive woman he had chemistry with

but that IS marriage. you're with someone you really like and don't feel the need to hunt anymore so you get married. there's very little romance in it if you're attractive and have charm, there will ALWAYS be sexual options for you, especially if you age well.

marriage is just saying you're good, you're done eating, for whatever reason - caring for the other person, tired of managing a roster, et al

but let TLR tell it, everyone is fukked and relationships dont work. this forum has an incredibly high anxiety rate, all masked in "doing me, everyone else is full of shyt"

So, I cant meet an attractive lady, settle down without marrying and let the relationship run its course? Just saying.

 

[Taadow]

Contrary to popular belief, educated men are under the same pressure as women. We all want to have kids

*pumps brakes*

NOOOOOOO...this part is NOT true.
I just want the record to reflect that...

I'm honestly at a point where I'm going to settle down with the next chick that is attractive, cool, and aligns with my life goals and views on life.

...and this is the hard part about this whole game.

It's hard to get all three of these.

There are plenty of people that are attractive, but how "cool" are they?
And individual people have different views and goals in this life.

 

[Art Barr]

I don't see any black man in here saying black men need to collectively raise their economic destiny because it's hurting the community and hurting the prospects of relatively educated women to pair-bond with her likely partner to build a firm solid black middle class. (Study economics and understand that the middle class drives strong economies- any modern economy rests on the shoulders of the middle class. You can't have a stably wealthy dynamic civil society without one).

What I do see are a bunch of losers taunting black women with being their next jump off and cum dumpster.

Don't talk shyt to me about massa when black men stay with his own dikk in his mouth. I don't want to be tied to a community of promiscuous men and discarded women.

There is no middle class because it was destroyed purposefully by applied knowledge. Beginning in 2001, and maybe you were not cognitive then.
Yet, what you talk about is a defeatist way of life and I don't feel what you write displays any ideals of faith/hope.
Ideals a female is supposed to actually have.
Yet, you have bought into government sendoff okie doke ideals and not the sound divorce laws that create sound male/female unions that buck the dialectic.

Plus, you don't understand we live in a narcissistic land.
That has seized your entire scope from simple rogue bitterness to your experience.

When, chances are you just got a broken heart.
As, you are talking about selling out being a new component to black female life.
Which is totally wrong.
that is coming from someone disenfranchised from not separating emotion in the right stages.
to stay healthy during issues in their life.
You need to fix that,.....
I can tell somebody jerked you over and hopefully you don't carry what Jamal and Leroy did to you any further.
That is the main problem with black women. Investing to much into one token of romance. Then, giving devil gate to anyone after that because females won't accept accountability because they never learned to choose accurately and that is on their watch and no one else's. Yet, black women deflect this fact all day and hide behind some receipt of capitalism for legitimacy.

While coveting a miserable life and a miserable solution set of ideals from other miserable faith deficient people.

I can tell you suffer from the same shyt, cause you talk that off brand sellout shyt snd you are 'supposedly' a black female.

Where are your black church ideals of white Jesus and faith when it comes to this topic.
Where are the ideals we need Jesus for and need to go to church for.
when it comes to you, or women who want to and insinuate selling out.
Where is your faith and objectiveness.
Or is it a lie....?


Art Barr


Cam'ron : nikkaz living a Lie
Lie
Lie lie,...
nikkaz living a lie,.....

 

[LadySimone]

@Art Barr

You're a weirdo.

 

[Art Barr]

I dont know if this point has been brought up yet, but women graduating from college more than men on a numbers basis alone doesn't account for what these degrees are. Alot of women are getting degrees, congratulations i guess.....but too many of them have degrees in arts, english, social sciences, etc which dont even pay what a blue collar man with a trade's job does. Getting a degree in mezo-american basketweaving honestly does not count. So these women graduate with a worthless piece of paper and somehow feel entitled to an educated and financially successful man, when they are neither themselves.

And it is a math problem, but not in the way this article has put it. If you look at dating as a man, from a cost-benefit analysis there are hardly any advantages to being married to a modern "educated" woman but countless disadvantages. They don't cleandon't cookgain weightboring in bed
spend your moneythen leave with the kids and take half in divorce.

Black women in general don't get bullshyt degrees breh.
You talking bout white women.
Blakc women are in the American economic pole position of favor and life in America. They get real jobs and real degrees.
When, you pursue a black professional degree having ass woman.
You not getting Becky the equestrian..you getting a board war room Chanel pant suit warrior.
On no day, have I met no black basket weave degree woman.
Black women get degrees in power minded fields and even technical fields.
Sisters are proven smarter bookworm wise and given the keys to trump black men academically on purpose and now professionally.
Ain't no sisters getting wack degrees and you better be on point, mentally.
Like crushing the game from a g point to even speak to these types of women.

We don't have high legacy liberal feminist given positions in the upper grade because of family type women in the black community like white women.
White women know they are inferior to black women and if you been in any office environment.
You know white women are jealous and grasp at straws to railroad black women from a position beneath black women.
Black women in corporate and even on tv in corporate are by simple association..
Looked at, at the very least the office manager.
or lead executive admin of an entire firm.
Black women been given the keys to the corporate grade structure.
The only reason things are still a bit normal is because sistas at their most feral.
have not sold out black men in every role all together.
Yet, they have bought into all the lack of virtue gamesmanship.
So, the numbers of black women with virtue is our issue as black men.
Besides that, if there was someway to buck black females into helping us overturn what has occurred that would be the ideal situation.

Yet, the MAN, is no fukk'n dummie and already prepared so that does not take place.

Art Barr

Have any you, really had the man ruin your life for real...
Do you think he really exists.
Well, he does,......just pray he don't fukk your little nikka life up.



Art Barr

The man really fukked up my life


Art Barr

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[Art Barr]

@Art Barr

You're a weirdo.

I find it weird you can't get note on a message board.
Then, trying to say someone is weird because they do what you are not capable of doing, ever.
That is what I find weird.

Art Barr

 

[philmonroe]

I buy that there are less eligible bachelors to go around and that makes it difficult for women. What I don't buy is that it works out great for men. For the most part, the truly eligible bachelors who have it all, the looks, the personality, and the money do very well. The other men, probably not so much. And this remains true even as they age unlike the dreams many here sell.

I mean, there is a reason so many men here are bitter and jaded towards women. There is a reason things like 'red pill' exist now and didn't before. And its not just because these guys are young and haven't made it to golden age of 30 where magically women fall over themselves to get with them lol

Yeah dudes gotta stop lying to themselves. If it was all like that dudes wouldn't be having variations of this topic everyday esp the cats that got houses in the Swiss alps but still whining about chicks like 40yr old virgin. shyt isn't realistic because somebody that's getting money, girls, whatever, rarely is bytching about not getting it.

I am not sure where you are getting that men are the prize from my post? Unless men have become asexual or do not desire children and don't care to have them in a stable home, they are bound by the same rules as women, just in a different way.

What I find in these scenarios is that men try to bank on the anomalies: a 40 year old marrying a 20 year old. A previously undesirable 30 year old man drastically increasing his income in 3 years to the point that desirable women now want him more than the more desirable men they wanted before. It is a losing game in my opinion. Women do not typically entertain men 10+ their senior. And unlike the past women do not have to pick mates based on livelihood alone.

So you just being a man with an income was much more likely to get you play back then than now, that is why a lot of men are complaining. You see it every day on this forum. There are more criteria to meet than basic needs because women do not have to depend on men. On the other side, a lot of women are complaining because there are not enough men meeting this heightened criteria. That is why I say both have to make adjustments but don't want to.



O....k. I don't agree with the majority of this but I guess. Men have always yielded power, and in fact you yielded more back in the day.

I mean there is a reason you have all these posts begging men to celebrate lol. Most men are not experiencing this heaven you want dating life to be for them.

Regarding bold that's what gives these dudes hope in life once I turn 30 girls going to be at my door by the ton that wasn't there the previous 29yrs smdh.

I agree. But the good thing is that men are conditioned to not getting the woman they like and having to step their game up. We've all been rejected by our dream girl in 4th grade and had to get our status up. So basically a man knows that if he puts the work in to improve on the areas he can control he's well positioned to succeed with ladies later.

There's a whole industry around this. Dudes make money consulting other guys on how to step up their fashion, how to be more confident, and other things to get women. Where is the female equivalent of this? Women do themselves a disservice because they're not built for making changes to attract the opposite sex. I see shyt like attractive 35 year old, good women, who refuse to go up and talk to a guy all because that's not how it's supposed to be.

Speaking for myself (as a reference point), there's literally no girl that rejected me in high school that I couldn't easily holla at right now. But this doesn't make me feel better than them, it's just proof positive that my hard work paid off.

Now the ugly, anti-social, pimple faced dudes who live with their mom are gonna have a bad time regardless. These guys and those red pill idiots need to look inward and make changes.

With bold are you high on that shyt? All them women's magazines that's all they fukking do tell chicks how to get a man, please the, in bed etc. Man y'all need to research before just saying any ole thing that makes you look silly.

Only if the man has his shyt together I feel.

Most of them don't hence why we have all these threads on dudes wishing on a star that they'll hit a magic age and all will be better. A lame with money is still a lame they might just get a few more dummies to sleep with but I guess that's what they going for.

I agree. But new posters join and drop random gems, new outlooks, new opinions, etc. Just have to be patient and read through the same myopic minutia.

Nah nobody saying nothing new at all. We all say the same shyt and its really no way to say GMB or lames going to be lames in a different way now.

nah its the same soup, reheated

only thing of note i read in here from skimming is dude who said he was gonna settle down with the next attractive woman he had chemistry with

but that IS marriage. you're with someone you really like and don't feel the need to hunt anymore so you get married. there's very little romance in it if you're attractive and have charm, there will ALWAYS be sexual options for you, especially if you age well.

marriage is just saying you're good, you're done eating, for whatever reason - caring for the other person, tired of managing a roster, et al

but let TLR tell it, everyone is fukked and relationships dont work. this forum has an incredibly high anxiety rate, all masked in "doing me, everyone else is full of shyt"

All of this right here. Dudes wanna be playboys to make up for their time as that sucker nikka and its a lot of dudes on here that can sympathize with being that last picked dude so they rant to each other.

 

[Stuntone]

Men and especially women need to stop dreaming and believing God is going to send them something or someone special. Ain't no help coming. You have to make it happen yourself. Look at the odds and do the math. Stop overappraising yourself. Potential doesn't make you special or valuable. Scarcity dictates value.


Logic and Reason muthafukkkas!!

 

[Mr Hate Coffee]

*pumps brakes*

NOOOOOOO...this part is NOT true.
I just want the record to reflect that...



...and this is the hard part about this whole game.

It's hard to get all three of these.

There are plenty of people that are attractive, but how "cool" are they?
And individual people have different views and goals in this life.

Fair enough... but I'd say the majority of men want to have kids and pass on a legacy. I'd even go as far as to say that educated men skew more towards wanting kids than non-educated men.

 

[Dwayne_Taylor]

All bullshyt aside, here's my take... And this is coming from a devilishly handsome 31 year old, former engineer finishing up grad school.

-Yes, women lose HARD in the numbers game. But there are a lot of good women who are gonna get screwed regardless. Even if they wanna settle down in their prime, their equal (another 19 year old in college) is not ready and will likely cheat on them or take advantage of them.

-The upside is IF they can stick it out, the dude will usually (not always) grow up and when he's ready he wants to lockdown the girl that's been loyal to him and he knows best. (Most girls will argue with me about this point and how it's not fair. But I didn't create this world, I'm just speaking the truth.)

So let's say that doesn't happen and fast forward past all that and you're at where I'm at. Where people are educated, single, have a slight amount of baggage, and are in their mid 20s to 30s.

At this point in the game it's a crapshoot for BOTH parties. Contrary to popular belief, educated men are under the same pressure as women. We all want to have kids and bring someone home to make our moms proud. It's just that we're more jaded and fearful of a girl's past. But please believe, when a dude finds a quality girl she is wifed up with a quickness. I don't give a fukk what the statistics say. I've seen it with my own eyes. Guys will try to play the numbers game until a smart dude comes along and scoops her up. Then the guy who let her go is like fukk it, I'm not to scared to admit that it's happened to me.

I'm honestly at a point where I'm going to settle down with the next chick that is attractive, cool, and aligns with my life goals and views on life. Notice I didn't say "has two masters" because even tho I'll have that, I don't give a fukk if my wife does. It's not important. What's important is if i can build with her

Lastly, not all men are gonna stand the test of time either. I know some nikkas that fell the fukk off over the past 10 years. They're going to have to lower their expectations as well. They're not grabbing cream of the crop 22 year olds either.

I agree with pretty most of this. I consider myself accomplished but at 37 If shes reasonably attractive, not fat and doesn't have kids I will give her a shot.

 

[Yup]

Men and especially women need to stop dreaming and believing God is going to send them something or someone special. Ain't no help coming. You have to make it happen yourself. Look at the odds and do the math. Stop overappraising yourself. Potential doesn't make you special or valuable. Scarcity dictates value.


Logic and Reason muthafukkkas!!

 

[Mr Hate Coffee]

With bold are you high on that shyt? All them women's magazines that's all they fukking do tell chicks how to get a man, please the, in bed etc. Man y'all need to research before just saying any ole thing that makes you look silly.

They may have those magazines but their aim is to provide quick tips (mostly for women who already have someone) and they don't really focus on long-term self improvement.

Just look at this list:
Be the Girl Every Guy Is Obsessed With

Full of dumb tips like "Graze his arm when you walk by." or "show more skin." How is this gonna help any lady with their dilemma?

And you know what I meant. Where's the female equivalent of "Hitch"? There are substantially more men soliciting the services of other men to help them get their shyt together so they can get women, than the counterpart.

You bring up Cosmo which is the equivalent of a Men's Fitness mag giving fat nikkas "10 tips to have rock hard abs."