"When God was dead for 3 days and 3 nights who was controlling the Universe?" - Ahmed Deedat

[ReadOneBookAWeek]

I almost want to feel sorry for y'all for being so dumb and misguided.

You're the one with the negative energy on the subject though. Isn't spirituality about peace, patience, virtue, discipline, integrity & sacrifice?

If you know a better way you should be an example of it right? What do you believe in? Or are you just as confused as the people you're angry with?

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

I higher recommend reading this for an introduction to how the concept of the trinity developed from Judaism.

Jesus and the Identity of God

This details the Jewish understanding of the concept of a 'godhead' from the OT.....

The 'Trinity' existed in OT writings, but by the 2nd Century CE, this type of Jewish thinking was being declared heretical due to the success of Christianity.​

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

See this is why people are confused by the Bible, because according to Jesus we are all Gods. He cited Psalms 82:6

.............Jesus wasn't telling other humans that they were 'g-ds'.

That Psalm was YHWH castigating his created beings, elohim, so, Jesus' quotation of that Psalm was to tell the humans he was speaking to who he was in-relation to them.​

 

[Swagnificent]

Show me one peer reviewed scientific journal that states that the simulation hypothesis (NOT theory) is the most likely explanation for wave/particle duality.

Or show me which scientists of significance states that the simulation hypothesis (NOT theory) is the most likely explanation "for wave/particle duality".

You are trying to "illuminate the road" then good. Give me those quotes/papers and I will have a read.

It is a Simulation Hypothesis because it lacks the evidence and form to be promoted to a scientific Theory. It is untestable, unfalsifiable and remains without a solitary shred of direct evidence.

There are "peer reviewed articles" that say the Ancient Egyptians weren't black and we know with 100% certainty that they were. Scientific journals are made up of people and like every other walk of life there are politics and agendas that affect it. Stop looking for authority to tell you what's true and what isn't. Use your own mind. I don't need the scientific consensus to tell me whats true and what isn't. I can reason for myself.

With that said I'm sure there are some scientists who believe in the Simulation Theory. I first learned of the simulation theory watching science documentaries on The Science Channel. Guys like Neil DeGrasse Tyson even push it now. Not to mention Elon Musk.

 

[Swagnificent]

You come from billions of years worth of evolved organisms to create the so-called intelligent life form we are today. Not some code a sociopath came up with who, in return, would need a creator as well, and so on.

All the evidence says our reality is a simulation.

Quantum mechanics is the smoking gun. Its shows that our world operates similar to how the worlds we make inside video games work.

 

[Swagnificent]

If we are a simulation and our creator doesn't care about us then you will never know, as no one in this universe would have the knowledge to that secret. If you really want to find out, dying may be your best answer.

Actually we can know if we look for glitches. The Mandela Effect was one such instance where glitches in the code have come light and should have shown anyone paying attention the truth of our reality.

 

[JOHN.KOOL]

The Jews/Muslims don't believe that Christ was the messiah and that you had to go through Him for absolution from the Father.

Christian beliefs vary on the Trinity, alot don't believe in the Trinity. I favor the Arian doctrine that was most popular before the Council of Nicea decided to declare it blasphemy in favor of Catholicism.

The Quran calls Jesus the Messiah my friend.

 

[Rell84shots]

One set of folks think Jesus is the son of God
One set of folks think Jesus IS Gof
One set of folks thinks Jesus never even existed and there is only God

Bruh religious folks can't even get their shyt straight

"Everything happens for a reason"
"So slavery happened for a reason?"
"There's good and bad in the world"
"But you said everything happens for a reason"
"YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO QUESTION RELIGION"

 

[ReadOneBookAWeek]

The Quran calls Jesus the Messiah my friend.

Islam casts Jesus as nothing more than a prophet and prophets were called messiah's and Christ's(anointed). But THE messiah sent to be a blood sacrifice for all sins is more than a prophet. Islam denies that Jesus is THE messiah sent to be a pure sacrifice for our sins and to reconnect us to the Father.

If you do not accept Jesus(not real name) as your savior, you deny the Father as well.

That's the major difference between Christianity and the other two Abrahamic systems. They are still waiting on the Messiah to be born. That's why they follow old testament law and still stone people to death

 

[JOHN.KOOL]

Jesus is God’s son. Jesus is not God.

Read my post on the first page. You fail to understand what the term son of God means.

 

[JOHN.KOOL]

This is starting to feel like debating with flat earthers who say, "okay then, if the Earth is round why don't we fall off the bottom?!?"

I linked a nuanced, educated explanation of the trinity and its place in Jewish context over three pages ago. Exactly zero haters have interacted with it. Ya'all rather remain ignorant and feel smart with dumb burns than educate yourselves on the topic.

This is a coli, you provide a clear and concise sound argument people will ignore it and debate whatever they find easier to argue against. I am rarely debated in these threads and I remember a long ass thread on evolution time ago where I very early on showed how everything we know about proteins, DNA and genes makes evolution impossible and that post was completely ignored.

 

[EARFQUAKE]

All the evidence says our reality is a simulation.

Quantum mechanics is the smoking gun. Its shows that our world operates similar to how the worlds we make inside video games work.

Actually we can know if we look for glitches. The Mandela Effect was one such instance where glitches in the code have come light and should have shown anyone paying attention the truth of our reality.

But video games aren't made of atoms and energy (not yet anyway, inshallah). The way video games function is due to a coding system, in which case, glitches never fail to reveal themselves. To correlate that to the Mandela Effect, IMO, is a reach due to your brain being more powerful than most people know. Misremembering is just common. If the world was made to believe that something they thought originally happened that did not, you'd have to look for the proof instead of the "I thought..." and if all proof was reset along with the memory then how would you even know to begin with? Most of the simulation theory leans on observation heavy. This theory tends to crumble when talking about people who sleepwalk, have alzheimer's disease, born blind and deaf, ect.

 

[Swagnificent]

But video games aren't made of atoms and energy (not yet anyway, inshallah). The way video games function is due to a coding system, in which case, glitches never fail to reveal themselves. To correlate that to the Mandela Effect, IMO, is a reach due to your brain being more powerful than most people know. Misremembering is just common. If the world was made to believe that something they thought originally happened that did not, you'd have to look for the proof instead of the "I thought..." and if all proof was reset along with the memory then how would you even know to begin with? Most of the simulation theory leans on observation heavy. This theory tends to crumble when talking about people who sleepwalk, have alzheimer's disease, born blind and deaf, ect.

How do you know our world is made up of atoms and energy? We think that's what its made of that stuff because that's how our brain interprets the electrical signals sent to it. But just like Neo said in the Matrix, what is real is nothing more than electrical signals sent to brain. If you can duplicate those electrical signals then you can fool the brain into thinking its in a world made of atoms and energy when in reality its simply being fed 1s and 0s.

With regard to your point on misremembering, I would agree with you. I'm not one of those people who believes in the Mandela Effect based on lines in some movie being different from how I remember or changes in spelling. I know how susceptible the mind is to errors of perception. What made me believe in the Mandela Effect were a few changes that were so profound because they correlate to so many other memories for me. I've mentioned this before in more detail but I'll give you the short-hand explanation right now:

When I was young, I was really into human evolution and how we as humans came to populate the world. I would watch every documentary I could get on this topic. The most amazing part of the human journey for me was how ancient man got to Australia. Humans supposedly reached Australia roughly 60,000 years ago. Way before we allegedly made it into Europe. This fact always amazed me and I was always curious how humans made that journey considering how far and remote Australia was on the map. It was surrounded by nothing but Ocean for thousands of miles. Only New Zealand was close to it. Now go and look at a map of the world and see where Australia is located today. When I learned of the Mandela Effect surrounding the location of Australia I was blown away. It had moved from being alone by itself at the bottom of the world with just New Zealand next to it to now being right up under Papau New Guinea. The story of how humans made it to Australia is now no longer is a mystery. The same humans that reached Papau New Guinea just hopped over to Australia which is now almost joining Papau New Guinea at its northern most point. That change is the one that shocked the hell out of me and proved to me that the Mandela Effect was real. It connected with so many memories for me that there is no way this was not evidence of a change happening in the fabric of our reality.

So you see. I'm not one of these guys who thinks the Mandela Effect is real because of the Bernstein Bears becoming the Berenstain Bears. Eventhough that change is freaky as well and I think is evidence of the Mandela Effect, BY ITSELF it wasn't enough to make me think the Mandela Effect was real. When I learned about that change I just thought my mind as a kid just changed the "a" to an "e" because the name Bernstein was more common than Berenstain. You see I'm well aware of our mind playing tricks on us like that. What I'm sure of is that I didn't spend a lot of time during my youth grappling with the question of how ancient man reached Australia if it has been right next to Papau New Guinea all this time.

 

[King_Sage]

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"Everything happens for a reason"
"So slavery happened for a reason?"
"There's good and bad in the world"
"But you said everything happens for a reason"
"YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO QUESTION RELIGION"

all things work together for the goodness of Christ.
how many blacks would there be in the US (most powerful nation on Earth) if there was no slavery. We have to wait for the revealing of God's infinite wisdom. As a fact, the US would not be where it is without that 'free' labor. So many blessings bestowed on us, Tech, medicine, and so much more to come. it all serves a purpose.

 

[JOHN.KOOL]

Islam casts Jesus as nothing more than a prophet and prophets were called messiah's and Christ's(anointed). But THE messiah sent to be a blood sacrifice for all sins is more than a prophet. Islam denies that Jesus is THE messiah sent to be a pure sacrifice for our sins and to reconnect us to the Father.

If you do not accept Jesus(not real name) as your savior, you deny the Father as well.

That's the major difference between Christianity and the other two Abrahamic systems. They are still waiting on the Messiah to be born. That's why they follow old testament law and still stone people to death

I challenge you to find me any scripture from anywhere or any surah from the Quran where Messiah is used to refer to anyone else but Jesus. Also find me a single surah in the Quran where messiah is used in any context other then when directly referring to Jesus. Also find me any scripture or Surah where Christ is used to refer to anyone else but Jesus.

The word Messiah is used 11 times in the Quran, and all 11 times it is referring to Jesus. No other prophet is called Messiah. This idea that prophets were called Messiah is based on what evidence.