Why Do Cubans Hate Castro So Much

[intruder]

some of you are viewing the Cuban Revolution through a strictly American racial view point which would be only a part of it

THANK YOU!

I hate when black people in the United States view other countries and only see the perspective that they can relate to in said other country's situation. You gotta understand all the other history/norms in those societies which can be more of a factor than just plain old racism which always plays some part but not the whole story

 

[DonRe]

Besides the wealth re-distribution. He suppressed ideas and jailed/killed dissenters.

Tends to shed a bad light on your reign when you kill anyone who doesn't agree with you.

 

[Malta]

Living longer, shytty lives man.

Many Cubans have adopted the mentality of "what is the point of devoting so much time to education if I'm gonna make $25 bucks a month?"

Sure, you can make the argument that things got "better" but certainly not by much. Black Cubans STILL can't get or have a very hard time getting into certain establishments.

Fancy restaurants, high level clubs, luxury hotels, only until recently were locals flat out banned.

That falls squarely on the US though, they have cost Cuba close to $130 billion since the embargo was levied. It's been time to end it, the hypocrisy of the US to impose an embargo on a country for having a Communist govt. while essentially being indebted to China is comedy.

They wont lift it for 1 simple reason, Cuba & individual Cubans would prosper with open trade under a communist govt. We all know what capitalistic Caribbean Islands generally look like and most of them are far worse than Cuba despite the embargo.

 

[Elle Driver]

That falls squarely on the US though, they have cost Cuba close to $130 billion since the embargo was levied. It's been time to end it, the hypocrisy of the US to impose an embargo on a country for having a Communist govt. while essentially being indebted to China is comedy.

They wont lift it for 1 simple reason, Cuba & individual Cubans would prosper with open trade under a communist govt. We all know what capitalistic Caribbean Islands generally look like and most of them are far worse than Cuba despite the embargo.

Despite that, their health care is top notch. American students go to Cuba for free medical school. Americas bully tactics haven't stopped Cubans development. The literacy rate is probably higher than Appalachia.

 

[WheatThins]

Seizure of wealth caused the wealthy cubans to hate him. The failure of Cuba to evolve to its max potential (du to the US embargo) caused the lower class to get tired of the regime

Castro had his supporters but not all benefited from his regime so he's bound to have haters. This is why i was saying Kaepernik (sp) was dumb and others like him who admire these revolutionary men need to understand that with their admiration comes backlash because in order to maintain power these same men that they admire have had to (as we say in my country) "break some bones" and sometimes innocent ones. These men have real victims that you may cross paths with all over the place. So while you think you're repping being against the system with your overpriced tshirt the random cuban dude looking at you weird may be staring at the man who had his uncle or grandad executed on your shirt.

Im a big Castro and Chavez supporter myself. But you gotta watch how you express it

i feel like the kaep talk derails your point tho

every leader has a constituency of people who don't like them that doesnt mean people won't look up or are dumb for doing so. its really just your perspective based on how you feel about the "wrong" that was done in comparison to whatever larger idea the leader had motivating them

no man is jesus, that doesnt mean people shouldn't look up to or admire the ideals of no one

trump has fans (which im pretty sure many are anti-castro) and he is banning races, grabbing pussies, accusing black boys of murder, telling cops to beat people. i would not look to that sort of opposition as a moral high ground to pursue/be wary of in this day and age

chances are if someone truly hates castro + did not understand his motivations, they prob are not too fond of blacks so why care about them anyway

 

[J.E.T.S]

You go to jail if you said you hate Castro in public too. Lol

 

[Malta]

Despite that, their health care is top notch. American students go to Cuba for free medical school. Americas bully tactics haven't stopped Cubans development. The literacy rate is probably higher than Appalachia.

shyt is a joke, people just look right past the nearly 60 years of embargo and the type of effect that has on a country, and the fact it actually makes the regime stronger by limiting resources which they have even more control over. Without the embargo quality of life there would improve, would they be able to buy the latest $1300 phone every 6 months? Probably not, but there's no doubt in my mind they would be the China of the Caribbean with a communist govt and capitalistic practices, which the US definitely doesn't want.

If people believe that Cubans would be better off with a US backed "Democracy" they are out of their fukking minds, look at the crime rates, literacy, lifespan etc in Puerto Rico for a glimpse at what Cuba would look like if it didn't have a communist govt. That shyt would be Thailand south if these dirty ass devils had their way with the Island.

 

[BigMan]

Yes, and what was going on before Batista? Why did he change his ideals after living in America...where he was influenced by our racial dynamic and certain criminal social elements?

I think he as motivated by Greed and also remember the US has formally and informally meddled with Cuba since 1898

When Cuba was lending support to Angola revolutionaries in the 1970s.......he delivered this speech

excerpts here

"But we must tell the Yankees to bar in mind that we are a LatinAmerican nation and a Latin‐African nation as well. African blood flows freely through our veins. Many of our ancestors came as slaves from Africa to this land. They fought as members of the Liberating Army of Cuba. We are brothers and sisters of the people of Africa and we are ready to fight on their behalf"

article here
Forward, With Fidel, Anywhere

Like I said in the other post.....I wasn't sure if he was pandering to the Afro-Cubans by saying that...but his words were a HUGE departure from the rhetoric of past Cuban and Latin American leaders who acted as though Africans didn't exist in the gene pool or culture of their countries.

This is the example I was thinking of but I believe that there are other public statements. Was not sure if he was speaking literally or figuratively.

What he said is true...but he himself is pure white and Castro was also the son of a rich landowner
Cuba is one of the few places where it's white population will acknowledge its black populations' influence

Race War of 1912

Are you just posting stuff or do you even know how to connect this to the Cuban Revolution?

 

[Elle Driver]

shyt is a joke, people just look right past the nearly 60 years of embargo and the type of effect that has on a country, and the fact it actually makes the regime stronger by limiting resources which they have even more control over. Without the embargo quality of life there would improve, would they be able to buy the latest $1300 phone every 6 months? Probably not, but there's no doubt in my mind they would be the China of the Caribbean with a communist govt and capitalistic practices, which the US definitely doesn't want.

If people believe that Cubans would be better off with a US backed "Democracy" they are out of their fukking minds, look at the crime rates, literacy, lifespan etc in Puerto Rico for a glimpse at what Cuba would look like if it didn't have a communist govt. That shyt would be Thailand south if these dirty ass devils had their way with the Island.

The gap in wealth would be much much higher, between blacks and whites. I noticed a difference between how black Cubans feel and how even mulattos feel in regards to Castro.

 

[intruder]

i feel like the kaep talk derails your point tho

every leader has a constituency of people who don't like them that doesnt mean people won't look up or are dumb for doing so. its really just your perspective based on how you feel about the "wrong" that was done in comparison to whatever larger idea the leader had motivating them

no man is jesus, that doesnt mean people shouldn't look up to or admire the ideals of no one

True but again this is a situation where i guess the term "too soon" comes into play.

Castro, Che, Duvalier, Chavez are all individuals that i feel have accomplished a lot for their respective countries during their reigns/lives even tho they are mostly viewed as vicious dictators/killers. But thing is we still have actual live victims of these people that are still walking around.

Im Haitian and I respect Duvalier but you wont catch me wearing a Duvalier T-Shirt. ANother example is My costa-rican ex-girlfriend when i lived in Costa-Rica sometimes jokingly calls me "Chavanista" because she knows i support Hugo Chavez. But at the same time she knows better than to bring that up when her aunt who lives in Venezuela and was there during the Chavez regime is there. Her aunt loves me but would probably get the death look if she knew that about me in any way.

See me being an outsider looking in I see the good in Chavez and can easily ignore the bad since it didnt affect me personally. Same thing with the clones parading in the T-Shirts

 

[get these nets]

What he said is true...but he himself is pure white and Castro was also the son of a rich landowner
Cuba is one of the few places where it's white population will acknowledge its black populations' influence

Yes, both Castro and Che were educated men from elite backgrounds. Surprised me a bit when I read that as a teen because I feel as though it's the "have nots" who fight for revolution...not the "haves"

From what you know, has it always been that way in Cuba, where the Spaniards fully acknowledge the influence and existence of the African on the country. Did it start with Castro? The quote I just pulled from Castro was mentioned in SEVERAL books and articles that I've read over the years from Afro-Cubans and Afro-Latinos. The spoke of the significance of it, as though the opposite was the norm before.

 

[get these nets]

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Im Haitian and I respect Duvalier.

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[intruder]

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Yeah and?

Edit: To be clear I mean Francois Duvalier.Not the son

 

[get these nets]

Yeah and?

Edit: To be clear I mean Francois Duvalier.Not the son

oh, okay....I've heard older Haitians ,who were alive before he came to power, say that also.

just checking...

 

[WheatThins]

Her aunt loves me but would probably get the death look if she knew that about me in any way.

well, tbh id wanna know more about her aunts ideals before deciding that offending wouldn't actually be something that needed to happen lol

like a white cuban in miami trying to tell me that castro is horrible would get the immediate from me, idc if castro hurt their best friend personally bc they prob benefited from a system that hurt many others themselves. at that point should i put direct/relateable pain over the well being of millions and the social health/future of a whole country?

sometimes what these leaders do are bigger than any individual or their pain tbh