How? Who is discussing a Missy record like they would Illmatic? Death Certificate? The Diary? The Chronic?
How old were you in 97? I didn't know anyone who bought that album and I would have looked funny at anybody who did.
Why is pop/catchy music frowned upon in hip-hop/R&B?
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How old were you in 97? I didn't know anyone who bought that album and I would have looked funny at anybody who did.
Exactly
You think any of these rappers have a bigger gay fan base then Missy?
IWW wasn't mentioned in the post you quoted. I was responding and disagreeing to your assertion that a record becomes pop based on how successful it is. I disagree with that wholeheartedly. There is also a big difference between attempting to go commercial and going pop. Very few rappers have actually gone so far as to go pop. Florida, Pit, Black Eyed Peas, Missy. Nas may have had commercial aspirations with IWW but he wasn't going pop the way Will Smith did with Big Willie Style.
Now obviously, we all use these terms sort of interchangeably on here.
A record does become Pop because of how successful it is. That's the whole reason behind going Pop (appealing to as many people as possible). Commercial, mainstream music is essentially Pop music.
There is a world difference between Pitbull, Flo-Rida, and The Black Eyed Peas. They all started off Hip Hop and went Pop without ever looking back. Red, Meth, Busta, Nas, Jay, Ghost, etc. all worked with her. She still had roots in Hip Hop. Missy always has been a hybrid of Hip Hop/R&B. Nothing sounded like what she was doing. It was different, but it had mass appeal. It wasn't blatant.
As for Nas. You think it was by chance that Will needed Nas pen for Big Willie Style? And yes IWW was Pop. Great album, but still Pop. He was interpolating the Eurythmics, sampling Sting, had one of the biggest crossover acts on his single. The results: he reached entirely new audiences that weren't checking for him before abd caught flack from Hip Hop heads. They disowned him for being what they perceived a sellout move.
@JustCKing, I'd avoid anything @Wacky D says on Missy/Aaliyah/Timbaland. he has some sort of weird bias toward them. Wacky D's my boy in almost every other respect, but his struggle-opinions on the aforementioned 
Faceless weirdo keeps lying Album went platinum. In 1997. Lots of hip hop fans bought it.
Be glad I've shown you an ounce of attention. Keep worshiping me from the sidelines :tochilol:
Faceless weirdo keeps lying
Album went platinum. In 1997. Lots of hip hop fans bought it.Be glad I've shown you an ounce of attention. Keep worshiping me from the sidelines :tochilol:
@JustCKing, I'd avoid anything @Wacky D says on Missy/Aaliyah/Timbaland. he has some sort of weird bias toward them. Wacky D's my boy in almost every other respect, but his struggle-opinions on the aforementioned
Faceless weirdo keeps lying
Be glad I've shown you an ounce of attention. Keep worshiping me from the sidelines :tochilol:
"lots of hip hop fans bought it" this nikka was in Saudi Arabia playing grab ass with Gafar in 1997. nikka was fukking Gafar to Missy's first album in 1997 
fronting like he knows what hip hop heads in the US were doing/buyingi think that nikka @mobbinfms has tochi on ignore though
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i think that nikka @mobbinfms has tochi on ignore though
let your obsession run gay and wild, brehs
so you made 5 posts about me in the span of 5 hours yet again? At 3:30 AM?
Pathetic attention-whore. Let's see how many deranged SirBiatch posts you continue to make. Maybe you'll set a personal record
No. A record doesn't become pop because it is successful. A record can flop but still be pop.
Yes. Going pop is watering the music down to such a degree intentionally before the record is released.
I don't get what you're saying here.
And IWW was not a pop album. It had a few commercial records that were tastefully done. It did catch flack because Nas' audience up to that point was purely hip hop and hip hop still had some integrity in 96. Missy was an R&B hip hop hybrid as you said which is why hip hop fans didn't care about the pop sound of her first album. She wasn't one of us.
How would he know anything about the US in 97? :tochilol:
i think that nikka @mobbinfms has tochi on ignore though
And yeah I've got him on ignore.
look at this idiot with the ducktales
Always trying to copy SirBiatch's slang and movement. Had him on ignore and it hurt his feelings, so now he wants to give it a try.
You can't have a dude on ignore and talk about him constantly/share his pic. Doesn't work that way, unless I'm somehow on your mind 24/7. It's impossible for @mobbinfms to post without mentioning/referencing me in some way or the other. Meanwhile, I flip the switch, and dude doesn't exist to me.
My attention-seeking fanboys
let your obsession run gay and wild, brehs
so you made 5 posts about me in the span of 5 hours yet again? At 3:30 AM?
Let's see how many deranged SirBiatch posts you continue to make. Maybe you'll set a personal record
5 posts in 5 hours
3:30 AM
Went to bed at around 2 or 230 last night and the post you quoted was at 1230you up at 7am posting at me and mobbinfms with you're schtick though
nikka out here still trying to save face for his 34 year old internet persona, while his trailer still pushing no views
look at this idiot with the ducktales
Always trying to copy SirBiatch's slang and movement. Had him on ignore and it hurt his feelings, so now he wants to give it a try.
You can't have a dude on ignore and talk about him constantly/share his pic. Doesn't work that way, unless I'm somehow on your mind 24/7. It's impossible for @mobbinfms to post without mentioning/referencing me in some way or the other. Meanwhile, I flip the switch, and dude doesn't exist to me.
My attention-seeking fanboys