Winter is Coming

[Knuckles Red]

no, it's not how are all these experiences being seen through the eyes of black men, when most blacks are being raised predominately by the women? nobody gives a two shyts about black men. when i see all these homeless black folks, of child bearing age, on the streets--it's RARELY black women. imo, we're more likely to be taught to value and respect black women, way more than we are black men.



i knew you were going to flip towards this bullshyt, feminist response. BM receive more coverage in the media because we are DISPROPORTIONATELY murdered. (compared to black women, or any other race) i'm also adhering to this feminist rhetoric. using black men being murdered by cops, to push their own feminist/gay agenda. BM don't rally or protest as much, because we're more likely to realize it's a useless form of response.

K.

 

[Knuckles Red]

You are standing on a faulty foundation that the argument is that black men have it "easier" than black women as if there was some objective way to assess that. Furthermore, there should be no thoughts as to who has it "easier" when we are on the same team.

You are also standing on the faulty assumption that men and women are the same. As if women dismissing men's issues has the same impact as men dismissing women's issues.

I am sorry if the responbility of being a man is upsetting to you, but women need their men to listen and empathize with them. We need our men to fight for us and not against us. We need our men to value us, cherish us, and carry that message to the world. You have the privilege of being dismissive towards that and not dealing with the consequences.

You are standing on the faulty assumption that black women are talking about the world at large as opposed to within our own communities where boys are regarded in a different way than girls. The double standard can be damaging to the self esteem of young girls. If that doesn't impact you then you might have the privilege of being able to dismiss it as trivial.

That aside, men do enjoy certain "privileges" over women. Like the ability to have a bad day without being called a bytch. Or the ability to be tough in business and that being seen as respectable and not a negative trait. But that is not exclusive to black men.

Basically this. When I talk about black male privilege I'm talking about black men in relation to black women...within the black community. Maybe I can see that privilege clearly because I grew up in a 2 parent household, but a lot of these comments, within this very thread, exemplify exactly what I'm talking about.

 

[Miss Lucifer's Love]

If you just wanna fukk quality doesn't matter.

But you're worth so much more

 

[Maddmike]

Most of the dudes here seem to respect this post for its candor and realness. If a black female artist painted what you said, I'd give her props, but with women it's not the same. They don't want to be told their shyt stinks from a black man...ever. They ain't trying to hear that shyt. You can't point out a black womans fault without it being anti-black women in general.

Alot of women seem to agree with the photo as well but of course your going to he your type of groups (feminist) .....

 

[#SOG_soldier]

But you're worth so much more

Did you see my thread on my son walking in on my doing coke

 

[Mr.Big Meat McGee]

The painting is doing nothing but depicting the same tired stereotypes about black women that get thrown around all of the time.This piece is not worth discussing on critical or intellectual level because It's a lame piece on a conceptual and technical level. First off, I think it's a mediocre rendering, abound with mistakes in the anatomy( the arms on the chick on the right are terrible, among other flaws),inconsistent lighting, and lacking contrast(making for some readability issues).All of which is a shame because I can tell he has a lot of talent when it comes to depicting form, but he makes some amateurish mistakes that become more glaring in contrast to the things he does right. And I can't respect this as an abstract piece, because even if I thought his message was valid or unique, the delivery and symbolism is so literal and uninteresting, that he's not giving much room for personal interpretation; it's more like he's basically throwing his thoughts and opinions right in our face and pretentiously disguising it as abstract expressionism.

So in short, fukk this nikka and this C tier piece of shyt "art". Black woman bashing is so fukking tired man....

 

[Retired Account]

Context. You seem...not all there...

If you look at the context, then you will realize that it's the same shyt

 

[wet landscapes]

There are ways to do social/cultural criticism without degrading people...

Ironically this video has a degrading Black woman caricature... SMFH

my friend loves stromae

 

[Knuckles Red]

If you look at the context, then you will realize that it's the same shyt

I'm talking about the historical context regarding the black woman, and her body/image/sexuality.

 

[bordeaux]

i worked in fast food in hs n i dunno i guess anyone can hav a bad day and some customers can really treat u like sh!t, man. so i try to be kind b/c i know the struggle. sometimes u give off the energy u get back from others i guess.

 

[Retired Account]

I'm talking about the historical context regarding the black woman, and her body/image/sexuality.

Why would that apply to a nikka in a different country?

 

[RoyalQ]

I wonder how men would react if it was black male thug pictures...

 

[marcuz]

You are standing on a faulty foundation that the argument is that black men have it "easier" than black women as if there was some objective way to assess that. Furthermore, there should be no thoughts as to who has it "easier" when we are on the same team.

what does "privilege" mean, if not having benefits over someone else?

You are also standing on the faulty assumption that men and women are the same. As if women dismissing men's issues has the same impact as men dismissing women's issues.

I am sorry if the responbility of being a man is upsetting to you, but women need their men to listen and empathize with them. We need our men to fight for us and not against us. We need our men to value us, cherish us, and carry that message to the world. You have the privilege of being dismissive towards that and not dealing with the consequences.

so let's clarify here. women dismissing what we're saying doesn't have impact, even though you birth and raise the next generation?

i'm tired of yall complaining about not being valued, while refusing to understand what gives you value in the first place. what do you believe gives women inherent value?

You are standing on the faulty assumption that black women are talking about the world at large as opposed to within our own communities where boys are regarded in a different way than girls. The double standard can be damaging to the self esteem of young girls. If that doesn't impact you then you might have the privilege of being able to dismiss it as trivial.

no, i'm talking about our own communities as well. i know we're living backwards, compared to most other patriarchal communities. you still didn't even list the double standards. you both get extremely vague when i ask for specifics.

That aside, men do enjoy certain "privileges" over women. Like the ability to have a bad day without being called a bytch. Or the ability to be tough in business and that being seen as respectable and not a negative trait. But that is not exclusive to black men.

what, how is this true or even privileges. so, if a black man is visibly wearing a "bad day" with his face and mannerisms, you think it's all good for us? i could list about a hundred of these petty ass "privileges" that benefit black women over black men.

end of the day, black women want to be promoted, protected, valued, just like other group of women. only difference, you want it on your terms, and that's never going to happen. you aint going to get your perfect, simp, matriarchy. BW will also not get collective protection or value, until yall come to terms with what it requires.

 

[.༼-◕_◕-༽.]

my friend loves stromae

It's the animator that's responsible for the image NOT Stromae. I don't even know if he'd recognize it, because it's an image from a past era.

 

[Tenchi Ryu]

This discussion is starting to remind me of the Gamergate stuff going on in the video game community, with how females feel disrespected and exploited.

The same stuff being said here is the same stuff being said there, yet in both places both groups want to segregate themselves as if its a separate problem.

Objectifying women is a Woman's disservice, not just a white woman or black woman's disservice.