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You can actually read the lyrics now though

Half of his verse makes absolutely no sense

The only thing that stands out is that he called his contemporaries by name, but he didn't even say anything significant when he did
what parts didn't make sense? Control isn't the typical Kendrick song either.


"I don't care if you really cry" and her saying "all my friends are dead"
So it's a typical emo song then? Is that why it's deep?
 

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"man look at this fake deep ass nikka! takin his craft seriously and shyt!"
You're hurt.

Thats why the the point is going over your head. :ufdup:

This song right here is LITERALLY the opposite of Fake Deep:



And the MIGOS did this song.

Its about about REAL social awareness and family dynamics in a broken home...but y'all excuse this because its not approved by fucing Interscope.


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I forgot that this is TheColi where posters often operate in extremes.
Where in my post did you get the idea that someone needed a "PHD" to speak on a subject at least
somewhat competently ?

Joey badAss and Lupe Fiasco have both disappointed me when given a position to speak publicly.
They're great rappers, excellent in that specific skillset but they've shown themselves to be very
lacking in understanding certain topics.

I mean right now we've got a thread going where Joey said something extremely ignorant, something
someone even casually interested in these topics would guffaw at because it was just so...wrong.

Being a great rapper does not necessarily mean outside of that, you're "Smart".
It's the same for sports stars, actors, comedians and anyone else who gets to casually represent
"Black People" on a national stage.
Something I've always noticed, is that the conscious artists sound like COMPLETELY dumbasses when given the opportunity to actually speak about something.

its the "hood" or "ignorant artists" who end up keeping it real and getting to the core of an actual issue.

Its cause those "conscious artists" don't have shyt to talk about in their raps if given an opportunity and largely end up there because they can't come up with content.

I'm not against positive music, but a lot of conscious artists are on their last leg and thus have to resort to SOMETHING to pay the bills.
 

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what parts didn't make sense? Control isn't the typical Kendrick song either.

This rambling gibberish flow is absolutely typical of Kendrick

But I bolded the lines that don't make sense to me

[Verse 2: Kendrick Lamar]
Tell Flex to drop a bomb on this shyt
So many bombs, ring the alarm, like Vietnam on this shyt
So many bombs, make Farrakhan think that Saddam in this bytch
One at a time, I line them up
And bomb on they mom while she watching the kids

I'm in a destruction mode if the gold exists
I'm important like the Pope, I'm a Muslim on pork
I'm Makaveli's offspring, I'm the King of New York
King of the Coast; one hand, I juggle them both

The juggernaut's all in your jugular, you take me for jokes
Live in the basement, church pews, and funeral faces

Cartier bracelets for my women friends, I'm in Vegas
Who the fukk y'all thought it's supposed to be?
If Phil Jackson came back, still no coaching me
I'm uncoachable, I'm unsociable;
fukk y'all clubs!
fukk y'all pictures! Your Instagram can gobble these nuts

Gobble dikk up 'til you hiccup, my big homie Kurupt
This the same flow that put the rap game on a crutch
(West, West, West, West, West, West)

I've seen nikkas transform, like villain Decepticons
Mollies'll probably turn these nikkas to fukkin' Lindsay Lohan
A bunch of rich ass white girls looking for parties

Playing with Barbies
Wreck the Porsche before you give them the car key
Judgement to the monarchy, blessings to Paul McCartney
You called me a black Beatle, I'm either that or a Marley
(I don't smoke crack; motherfukker, I sell it!)
I'm dressed in all black, this is not for the fan of Elvis
I'm aiming straight for your pelvis, you can't stomach me
You plan on stumping me?
bytch, I’ve been jumped before you put a gun on me

bytch, I put one on yours, I'm Sean Connery
James Bonding with none of you nikkas

Climbing 100 mil in front of me
And I'm gonna get it even if you're in the way
And if you're in it, better run for Pete's sake
I heard the barbershops be in great debates all the time
'Bout who's the best MC: Kendrick, Jigga, and Nas

Eminem, André 3000; the rest of y'all
New nikkas just new nikkas, don't get involved

And I ain't rocking no more designer shyt
White T’s and Nike Cortez, this red Corvette's anonymous
I'm usually homeboys with the same nikkas I'm rhyming with
But this is hip-hop
And them nikkas should know what time it is

And that goes for Jermaine Cole, Big K.R.I.T., Wale
Pusha T, Meek Millz, A$AP Rocky, Drake
Big Sean, Jay Electron', Tyler, Mac Miller

I got love for you all, but I'm tryna murder you nikkas
Tryna make sure your core fans never heard of you nikkas
They don't wanna hear not one more noun or verb from you nikkas
What is competition? I'm tryna raise the bar high
Who tryna jump and get it? You're better off tryna skydive
Out the exit window of five G5's with five grand
With your granddad as the pilot, he drunk as fukk, tryna land
With the hand-full of arthritis and popping prosthetic leg

Bumpin' Pac in the cockpit so the shyt that pops in his head
Is an option of violence, someone heard the stewardess said
That your parachute is a latex condom hooked to a dread

West Coast
 

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This is an example of a deep song to me



[Intro: Rick Ross]
God forgives, He's so honorable
But livin' amongst thieves and nikkas like myself
You will not have that luxury


[Verse 1: Rick Ross]
I wake up excited, I made it through the night
Things I did in the dark, will it ever see the light?
My nerves should be a wreck, I got a bad chick
She keeps me erect, she loves my ad-libs

I think I'm a genius, hundred grand a fukkin' feature
I do at least three a week, roll up the fukkin' reefer
Went from Benihana to Bimini in Bahamas
Ten chains, no luggage, I'm a big timer
nikkas claim that they thuggin' when they dikk-ridin'
My nikkas rather walk, do they own brick climbin'

On the block in my all white sneakers
Lord knows in my ten Jesus pieces

Pray for me cause you know a nikka doin' wrong
My homie in the cell, so I had to write a poem
Count mills for the times that we had it hard
Askin' for a hundred mill as I pray to God

[Hook: Rick Ross]
I do this for my nikkas facin' hard times
Can't be on them corners if you hustlin' part time
Ten chains on, Eric B with mob ties
Rakim flows, comin' from the Pharcyde

Blood diamonds and my pieces from apartheid
Quick to quote a prayer, pull it from the archives
I pray for every soul that this music reaches
Bury me a G, ten Jesus pieces

[Verse 2: Rick Ross]
Young nikka comin' up, they wanna gun you down
Drinkin' vodka in the memory of my nikka, damn (I miss you P-Nut)
Ridin' real slow on them all golds (we had them nikka)
Shoppin' for them Os when the mall close
Reppin' for your homies when they all gone
Get empowered then you put your dog on (Real shyt)
All black tees, ten gold chains
At the Super Bowl, but we in the dope game
Ten years strong in the same trap
Ten years blowin' on that strong pack

Lord knows that I wanna live right
But Lord knows what that Club Liv like
(right)
Forty dollar tab meanin' forty grand
Lil Wodie got it rolled up in a rubber band
Holdin' on the forty in his other hand
Ten chains on, smokin' in the motherland

[Hook: Rick Ross]
I do this for my nikkas facin' hard times
Can't be on them corners if you hustlin' part time
Ten chains on, Eric B with mob ties
Rakim flows, comin' from the Pharcyde

Blood diamonds and my pieces from apartheid
Quick to quote a prayer, pull it from the archives
I pray for every soul that this music reaches
Bury me a G, ten Jesus pieces

[Verse 3: Rick Ross]
I'm his poltergeist, nikkas know I'm more than nice
All these jewels on, all Moissanites
I could see it in the sparkle cause it lackluster
Black card maxed out, damn black brother
White collar, black market
Chrome Smith and Wesson, back pocket
Eight shot,
bytch I'm a top shotta
Screamin' your affiliations, but that don't matter
I'm flyin' first class as the snakes slither
Never blackmail a motherfukkin' killer
On trial and they wanna execute me
It's really sad, just the fact they never knew me

True G to the core, feel my texture
A true G keeps it raw in his lecture

Keep it simple, white tee, new sneakers
Dope boy style, ten Jesus pieces


[Hook: Rick Ross]
I do this for my nikkas facin' hard times
Can't be on them corners if you hustlin' part time
Ten chains on, Eric B with mob ties
Rakim flows, comin' from the Pharcyde

Blood diamonds and my pieces from apartheid
Quick to quote a prayer, pull it from the archives
I pray for every soul that this music reaches
Bury me a G, ten Jesus pieces

[Verse 4: Stalley]
Versace shirt, Jesus layin' on the chest
Man I swear Big did it the best,
I mean
Nas did it fresh,
Jay did it fresh, I mean
Ye did it fresh,
but man Big did it the best
And I was so impressed that I went and got ten
Now I'm stuntin' on these nikkas cause I couldn't back then
Rose gold, yellow gold, a couple platinum
And I wear them all at once, I ain't tryna match them
I remember bumpin' Mack 10 and that deuce in the corner
Scrapin' up for a sandwich and a soda

Now my strength is up and I'm danglin' chains off my shoulders
But no Jesus piece on mine, cause at times I feel ashamed
For the reason that I buy em

And they say, because I'm Muslim I shouldn't think about the shine
Or even put it in a rhyme

It's better things I could talk about or put my money towards
But for now, I'mma wear these ten chains and floss


[Hook: Rick Ross]
I do this for my nikkas facin' hard times
Can't be on them corners if you hustlin' part time
Ten chains on, Eric B with mob ties
Rakim flows, comin' from the Pharcyde

Blood diamonds and my pieces from apartheid
Quick to quote a prayer, pull it from the archives
I pray for every soul that this music reaches
Bury me a G, ten Jesus pieces

[Outro: Rick Ross]
We untouchable

[Outro Skits]
Xolaal sama guys, dundu ben yoon la
Dangay dundu sa dundu, gemm Yalla
Ligeey, xalis, gnax, amoul nelaw, gnafè
Sa life yako dugal, ken du ko jappale
Yow ya ray sa bopp ba dee. Moy loolu


Mi historia es complicada, pero al final del dia valio la pena, porque ahora estoy trabajando con el jefe

Yo vivi en Colombia y vivi muchas cosas, me entiende?

Vi muertes...vi muertes...vi cuerpos en las calles, sangrando despues del colegio, con 12, 13 años viendo estas cosas en la calle

Y siempre queria venir para aqui otra vez, y me vine, y trabaje porque tenia otra mentalidad. Y cuando llegue aca entendi mi proposito: hacer dinero, ser rico para siempre

Dios perdona, yo no

Ross made a whole album of these joints:



:banderas:
 

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nah, its definitely the artists most times.

Remember. MOST mainstream artists are barely high school graduates.

When you remember that, it becomes much easier to find the "fake deep" ones.
So people who aren't formally educated shouldn't be talking about social issues?
 

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breh aint say they're too ignorant to know better, breh said he's in position to show them a different way. and sorry, if you think that banging life is all there is you are too ignorant to know better. i know plenty people in that lifestyle who know there are other options, they just don't know how to get them, don't care to get them, or feel it's too late/they're destined to be in the life they're in now.
We're talking about the song though :troll:

We're not talking about the theme of the song :troll:
 

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I Always understood ''Fake Deep'' as mentioning issues but not going deep enough into to explore deeper issues with in that subject.

A Good Example of this is Logic. He speaks alot about race issues now don't get me wrong its great that he mentioned it but he never goes deep into
breaks stuff down, reference historic events the listeners may not have been privy too essentially teaching the listener something new.

I'm Not Saying a rapper has to teach you you can & should teach yourself however if a rapper insists Swimming in the ocean he better learn to dive at some point
of course there is limit to how deep you can get on a 4min song because thats alot of info to be shoved in a song but a good example of this done right would be ''Conflict diamonds'' By Lupe Fiasco

or this



or this even this



Of Course every song mentioning deep issues may not have been originally intended to be deep to begin with :manny:

So you want your Rap to be preachy?
That's how it was for a brief moment in the late 80s and early 90s.
 

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i think kendrick talks about it in the way he's experienced it, no he wasn't the one banging or attending the weekly crip meeting at c-loc's house, but he has experiences that were shaped by it, he sees the effects, nothing wrong with speaking on it. dude never comes across as trying to be the authority on it IMO
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I know you're not specifically addressing me but I didn't give that type of answer at all.



You can definitely talk about something you haven't experienced firsthand if the way you address it is true to yourself. Ergo, if a black middle class rapper that grew up with two parents said something like "My mama said to be courteous to officers/but deep down I wonder why they stalking us" I'd understand that from their POV they're disillusioned with law enforcement in this country even if it's not from the perspective of being railroaded or beaten up.
fukking Childish Gambino/Donald Glover didn't grow up hood...and HE can do this shyt better than Kendrick :dead:

B.O.B. isn't a "hood" dude, he grew up poor, but still...HE can do this shyt :mjlol:

Maybe theres something about ATL :obamaumad:


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I just don't see it with his music.
Why do you think Kendrick uses abstract rap and 3rd person characters so much in his raps?
Very rarely is he able to speak on any of this stuff in depth and almost never brings out any emotional appeals.
Have you listened to Kendrick? His music is pretty much all depth and emotional appeals.
He uses 3rd person characters because he's an artist.
 

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i think kendrick talks about it in the way he's experienced it, no he wasn't the one banging or attending the weekly crip meeting at c-loc's house, but he has experiences that were shaped by it, he sees the effects, nothing wrong with speaking on it. dude never comes across as trying to be the authority on it IMO
Thats not good enough.

Attempts don't matter

Execution matters.

Just cause you post your shot doesn't mean it has to be therefore exalted, validated, and honored.
 

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I do know Kendrick ain't that conscious dude that title on the team goes to ab-soul.. Well it did before he started doing drugs and devil worshipping
 
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