Can they cancel the plans to EXPAND COLLEGE FOOTBALL PLAYOFFS?

[Piff Perkins]

I think you are short-sighted.

If more teams are able to make the playoff and compete, over time, schools won't be able to stack five-star recruits at the same position as they can do now. More conferences will get lucrative TV contracts because those schools will be able to compete for a national title, etc.

I am not saying the top and premier schools won't win a big share of the titles, but I started watching college football when the SEC wasn't shyt Clemsoning wasn't even a thing because Clemson was not a major program, LSU was a joke, etc while Penn State, Notre Dame, the Florida schools, Nebraska and Colorado as the premier programs in college football. Nothing is fixed and this tournament will create more parity among the Power Five schools over time.

Also, NIL is a big-time game changer for smaller programs too. We saw Deion Sanders get a five-star recruit to play in FCS for an HBCU through a NIL and his charisma, and he pulled in four-star players.

This thread is in reaction to TCU getting their asses handed to them in the National Title Game. TCU was a middle-tier WAC/Mountain West school for most of the last 30 years. If you can't see that as progression and how nothing is fixed, then you are not paying attention.

Nothing stays the same.

TCU is a Big 12 team, and the Big 12 has gotten teams into the playoffs before.

This isn't about the little man, it's going to be the same conferences who already have major TV deals. Which is why less relevant conferences are dying, attempting to merge, etc. It's why things are clearly moving towards a situation where there's two super conferences (SEC, Big Ten) before everyone just merges into one.

The more likely situation is more teams fighting over 3-4 stars because they cannot afford 5 stars, who will be split between the top tier programs and the fraud programs that hand out the bag for a few years before giving up (Texas A&M, Miami in the coming years, etc). I'm not saying top tier programs will be top tier forever, but there will always be some level of inequality when it comes to this shyt. The Big Ten rakes in a shyt ton of money yearly yet has been completely unable to complete with top tier SEC programs at NIL. Why? Surely there are plenty of alumni in the Midwest who own car dealerships too. It's about more than that. It's about regional recruiting and years of relationships between middle school, high school, churches, etc and major college programs. Truth is a lot of these kids have been getting money from bag men since they were 15 years old, long before NIL was a thing. And those kids are gonna predominantly go to southern schools, that's just reality.

It's not 1994 anymore. Football is an institution in the south at this point, that's where most of the (black) talent is. Lincoln Riley is learning this as we speak.

 

[Pure Water]

The expansions gives incentive for the top talent to go to other schools. If Georgia or Texas calls me, in the current system I’m going to Georgia if I want to win a championship. Texas has the money to compete with Georgia, but they don’t have the pedigree. I’m not about to waste my time at an 8-5 Texas team when Georgia is losing at most 2 games a year with the latter being in either the SEC championship game or the Playoffs. With teams soon having the chance to represent their conference and actually go to the playoffs you may see more parity between the teams.

 

[mastermind]

TCU is a Big 12 team, and the Big 12 has gotten teams into the playoffs before.

This isn't about the little man, it's going to be the same conferences who already have major TV deals. Which is why less relevant conferences are dying, attempting to merge, etc. It's why things are clearly moving towards a situation where there's two super conferences (SEC, Big Ten) before everyone just merges into one.

The more likely situation is more teams fighting over 3-4 stars because they cannot afford 5 stars, who will be split between the top tier programs and the fraud programs that hand out the bag for a few years before giving up (Texas A&M, Miami in the coming years, etc). I'm not saying top tier programs will be top tier forever, but there will always be some level of inequality when it comes to this shyt. The Big Ten rakes in a shyt ton of money yearly yet has been completely unable to complete with top tier SEC programs at NIL. Why? Surely there are plenty of alumni in the Midwest who own car dealerships too. It's about more than that. It's about regional recruiting and years of relationships between middle school, high school, churches, etc and major college programs. Truth is a lot of these kids have been getting money from bag men since they were 15 years old, long before NIL was a thing. And those kids are gonna predominantly go to southern schools, that's just reality.

It's not 1994 anymore. Football is an institution in the south at this point, that's where most of the (black) talent is. Lincoln Riley is learning this as we speak.

You are saying this because you only see what's happening now and don't think the world will change.

TCU is currently a BIg 12 program, but they were a middling SWC, Moutain West/WAC, and Conference USA for most of the last 35-40 years. The fact that they played in that game last night shows that things are not fixed and always shifts and changes.

 

[FakeNews]

What's your definition of underdog?

Group of 5s teams, the TCUs of the world…. teams that don’t have the depth or elite 4 and 5 star talent to win a national championship. Teams with a blue chip ratio of under 50% generally don’t win national championships

 

[jadillac]

Just getting Colorado into the playoffs should suffice (once they switch to the top 8 or 12 team format). Him being at Colorado is transitory, I think the ultimate goal is him coaching an SEC school, or FSU.

I think Colorado is every bit on the level of FSU, IF he can recruit well.

 

[PortCityProphet]

I think Colorado is every bit on the level of FSU, IF he can recruit well.

Explain please.

 

[klutch2381]

I think Colorado is every bit on the level of FSU, IF he can recruit well.

You’re tripping.

 

[Spiritual Stratocaster]

If TCU didn't belong Michigan didn't either

I think Tcu shouldn't have finished top 4.. and UM probably lose to Georgia badly though if I'm being honest

 

[invincible1914]

12 is too much. 8 is perfect imo.

If you look at how they have it set up, it really is an 8 team playoff for the top 4 teams. The other four get to play their way in instead of playing in a bowl game. I was complaining about the expanded playoffs until I thought about it. This won't affect anything other than make the bowl season more exciting. Look at this bracket below (which was done before USC loss in the PAC 12 championship):

You basically end up in the same place, and maybe Bama get a chance to show that they were a better choice than TCU on the field instead of whining about it online, or maybe Utah get to hit them with the

Maybe Tulane would have played USC in the opening round shocking the world.

Also, less players would be opting out. The first fool to opt out of a playoff game is going to be public enemy #1.

The only negative I see is that it might not be fair for teams that played in conference championships and didn't make the top four.

 

[Godless Socialist CEO]

I think Tcu shouldn't have finished top 4.. and UM probably lose to Georgia badly though if I'm being honest

They literally did the year before. It was over before halftime last year

 

[invincible1914]

I think Tcu shouldn't have finished top 4.. and UM probably lose to Georgia badly though if I'm being honest

Who would you put over them if they can beat undefeated #2 Michigan? They belonged in there just should have swapped with Ohio State. Committee did it that way to avoid a Michigan/O$U rematch first round.

A pissed off Georgia team was just the wrong match up for them.

 

[invincible1914]

You’re tripping.

What is he talking bout? It's not 1992. Even in 1992, FSU was the more premium brand.

 

[Piff Perkins]

You are saying this because you only see what's happening now and don't think the world will change.

TCU is currently a BIg 12 program, but they were a middling SWC, Moutain West/WAC, and Conference USA for most of the last 35-40 years. The fact that they played in that game last night shows that things are not fixed and always shifts and changes.

Don't get me wrong, I hope you're right. But what I watched last night convinced me that nobody was gonna touch Georgia this year, and I got zero hope that either of my alumni (UM and USC) will ever compete with THAT. And not only are they reloading for next year, they're dominating the transfer portal right now by snatching two top WRs lol. This is a haves and have nots system and those types of things tend to get worse, not better.

What does an 8-12 seed team look like in an expanded playoff, over the next few years? Two to three loss Penn State teams. Wisconsin. A two loss Texas team that loses their big games. Wack Pac-12 teams. All of whom are scrambling to secure 3 and 4 stars. And if any of those 3-4 stars end up being really good guess what, here comes Brian Kelly with a million dollars and a Dodge Hellcat. I just don't see how that's sustainable without massive changes to NIL and the transfer portal.

 

[invincible1914]

If you look at how they have it set up, it really is an 8 team playoff for the top 4 teams. The other four get to play their way in instead of playing in a bowl game. I was complaining about the expanded playoffs until I thought about it. This won't affect anything other than make the bowl season more exciting. Look at this bracket below (which was done before USC loss in the PAC 12 championship):

You basically end up in the same place, and maybe Bama get a chance to show that they were a better choice than TCU on the field instead of whining about it online, or maybe Utah get to hit them with the

Maybe Tulane would have played USC in the opening round shocking the world.

Also, less players would be opting out. The first fool to opt out of a playoff game is going to be public enemy #1.

The only negative I see is that it might not be fair for teams that played in conference championships and didn't make the top four.

I was wrong. Top seed only goes to conference champions (wow) not fair but

That means Utah went from Bama first round to a bye week, USC screwed themselves, and whoever Clemson played for the ACC Chip could have busted this wide open.

 

[gtj1982]

Only a strict salary cap will make a difference. NIL and the portal will help balance the talent level song but the sport needs full board regulation and even roles across the board.