Can we talk about how this generation fukking sux ?

[Big Mel]

its not just hip hop...its music in general.

mostly due to the internet. There is something about having to go to a record store and buying the album. You respect your purchase a lot more. When you bought a CD you listened to that shyt all the way through several times before deciding on which songs you liked the best...you went through the booklet, you carried a book of CDs with you in the car...none of that is going on now.
This shyt is disposable more so than ever.

Or it can just be the life cycle of music. Its happened to all the major genres in the past 100 yrs. It gets to a plateau, and then slowly declines until something else comes around.
Blues, Jazz, Rock, Country...and Hip Hop. All these genres had whats considered "the golden years"...Hip Hop's was in the 90's.

i still buy everything. it doesn't make me respect it anymore. if you make it past 5 whole album spins you're bordering on classic. But yeah, the constant onslaught of new stuff cheapens the gene pool.

 

[jilla82]

why yall acting like bootlegging and dubbing didnt already exist before downloading? most of the people yappin about the golden years(which werent neccessarily the '90s, btw) didnt buy most of their albums out the stores either.

stop reaching for excuses. if the music is bad or mediocre, then thats what it is.

Did I not say it also could just be the cycle of music? Rock, Jazz, Blues, Country...All died after their heyday.

But anyone saying d/l music didnt change things is a lie. I can carry my whole music collection in my pocket...and not have to pay for any of it...thats totally different than what we had back in the day.

 

[Wacky D]

Did I not say it also could just be the cycle of music? Rock, Jazz, Blues, Country...All died after their heyday.

But anyone saying d/l music didnt change things is a lie. I can carry my whole music collection in my pocket...and not have to pay for any of it...thats totally different than what we had back in the day.

nah. speak for yourself dog.

i didnt HAVE to buy anything back in the day aside from c-list artists from other regions, who nobody else listened to up here(so i couldnt dub) and werent carried by many bootleggers. for the most part, when i bought a retail album, it was usually because i wanted to. not because i had to.

i cant speak for you, but i think most of us took pride in our purchases when we were kids because it was a sense of accomplishment and for alot of people, purchases are few & far between when youre young......that my friend, is nostalgia.

 

[Trap-A-LoT]

 

[Suicide King]

this is false.

theres always stuff thats going to get complained about. but it was never like it is now. theres never been a time where hip-hop was just flat-out seen as wack or dead until the mid-00s and theres reasons for that, but i doubt that the naysayers would want to hear it. so why waste my time?

never have i ever seen so many feelings of disenchatment & disinterest in hip-hop. even amongst the young cats coming up. theres no way you can still be in denial at this point.

The main thing about this era is down south rappers are straight dropping nursery rhymes.

They only care about rhyming words together.

So you get a whole bunch of random lines about nothing in particular. Very generic.

These rappers would rap about 10 or 15 different things on the same song. Literally the song would be about 1. balling, 2. betrayal, 3. being a player, 4. loyalty, 5. his crew and them mobbin' through, 6. being a shot caller/boss, 7. being a goon, 8. getting money by selling crack, 9. past activities when they came up in the ghetto , 10. people hating on them/jealousy.

That's why I can't listen to Migos, Young Thug, Future or Gucci Mane.

 

[jilla82]

nah. speak for yourself dog.

i didnt HAVE to buy anything back in the day aside from c-list artists from other regions, who nobody else listened to up here(so i couldnt dub) and werent carried by many bootleggers. for the most part, when i bought a retail album, it was usually because i wanted to. not because i had to.

i cant speak for you, but i think most of us took pride in our purchases when we were kids because it was a sense of accomplishment and for alot of people, purchases are few & far between when youre young......that my friend, is nostalgia.

fam youre talking about the hood...that wasnt middle America (the people who purchase the albums).

 

[Danie84]

Listen to the rappers of the past, and the rappers of the present; it doesn't take quantum physics to figure who is the best

 

[Leti Cook]

looks like this is one of those "cool things to repeat on rap forums".

cuz yall keep saying this but nobody ever attempts to put any meaning or logic behind those words.



youre arguing against your point dog.

you would have a point if you listed an older rapper that was inferior to DMX. but you did the opposite.

this is really a case of a kid thats new to the game thinking that what hes exposed to is automatically the greatest thing ever until his elders eventually swooped in and did their job. kudos to them.

that was exactly my point. i thought the new shyt was the greatest, the older guys disagreed. Im sure there are kids growing up that think this new shyt is the shyt because its their shyt. We disagree, partially because we're from a different era. Am I missing something?

I like X over cube because I grew up on X and by the time I started listening to music, Cube was more into acting. I can acknowledge prime Ice Cube was better tho. Just like if some kid really fukk with 2 chainz and I tell him X was the shyt. He like 2 chainz because its his shyt from his era. He's not wrong to feel that way.That makes sense right?

 

[Wacky D]

that was exactly my point. i thought the new shyt was the greatest, the older guys disagreed. Im sure there are kids growing up that think this new shyt is the shyt because its their shyt. We disagree, partially because we're from a different era. Am I missing something?

I like X over cube because I grew up on X and by the time I started listening to music, Cube was more into acting. I can acknowledge prime Ice Cube was better tho. Just like if some kid really fukk with 2 chainz and I tell him X was the shyt. He like 2 chainz because its his shyt from his era. He's not wrong to feel that way.That makes sense right?

@the bolded, yes he is wrong to feel that way. very wrong. at least with your ice cube/dmx story, you can say that dmx isnt too far off from cube's caliber. but saying that 2chainz is better than dmx? i would just walk off if somebody said that chit in my presence. thats just ridic. and saying someone is better just because theyre from your era is pretty ignorant. you get a pass since you were a kid tho.

but back to the moral of your story, im confused. i thought the point that you were attempting to make is that older fans have always hated on new generations of hip-hop(which is false). but all you did was tell a story about oldheads stating the obvious. you would have a point if they said somebody like say a king tee was better than dmx. but instead, you mentioned ice cube, a guy who is in the running for goat.

there was never any real generational divide in hip-hop anyway, aside from newer fans brushing off whatever came before them. most '90s kids brushed off '80s rap and still do to this day. and now karma is hitting them as they realize that alot of '00s kids could care less about the '90s. but other than that, you really dont have many older fans disregarding younger generations just off GP. its usually the other way around.

 

[Damnshow]

 

[Wacky D]

fam youre talking about the hood...that wasnt middle America (the people who purchase the albums).

i was just saying to speak for yourself with the "we" stuff.

and lets not act like the hood didnt purchase albums to. as if mom-n-pop stores didnt prosper.

and lets not act like white folks didnt make copies of stuff themselves. theres always been other means of hearing music.

and yes, the influx of downloads was/is detrimental, but not quite as detrimental as its made out to be.

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

Hip hop has been on a good upswing since the late 2000's. The real dark era was mid 2000's with the snap music type shyt. That's the corniest era yet.

For albums like pinata to be classic they need to be heard by more than rap blog fans. The problems is DJs don't play but the same sets everywhere so all these dope records have no room to breath in public and connect with fans.

 

[StretfordRed]

I put on a Spotify "Gangster Workout" playlist, and I saw all the artists on it and thought

Future, Waka Floka, Chief Keef, Lil Durk, Migos, etc..But I thought, fukk it, it's leg day in the gym

Only got a few songs deep and the same fukking trap beat came on about 100 times and the same BS hook...had me feenin for some good old Mobb Deep

I really wish to give these guys a chance, but when that Love Sosa track came on, I thought all this generation are grade A shyt

 

[dBoyFresh*212]

This generation is all for snitching on each other, following the next man, scared to be a real nikka (for example look at today's "rap beef", and they can't get a bytch without using Instagram. So of course the rap game is fukkin trash, I been sayin this since last year.

 

[Big Mel]

the immediacy of the music....the pirating or whatever....is also tied to the immediacy with which a wack dude like souljah boy can gain recognition.



bottom line, if you never used a pay phone i doubt i will feel your raps. if you use emojis more than you've used a graphite pencil you can't move me.

This generation is all for snitching on each other, following the next man, scared to be a real nikka (for example look at today's "rap beef", and they can't get a bytch without using Instagram. So of course the rap game is fukkin trash, I been sayin this since last year.

Negrodamus.