Art Barr
INVADING SOHH CHAMPION
Morey spittingnow about having to turn down dates in high school.
dude is a lame.
Art Barr
Charles Barkley rants about Analytics and destroys Rocket GM
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dude is a lame.
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Disgustya Stallone
Man Who Owns 2 Microwaves
who would gamble multi million dollars with "soul"?
i'd rather make million dollar decisions based on numbers cuz
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http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2014/09/23/cuban-ramps-up-roster-analytics-push/
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Cuban was just as geeked to talk about his ramped-up analytics effort and an organization that has declared statistical warfare on the rest of the league.
In fact, the one area in which Cuban added more personnel than the Mavs’ 15-man roster was the analytics department, a division that multiplied so swiftly following the first-round loss to the Spurs that Cuban says he’s lost count.
“I don’t even know,” Cuban said. “We have all these interns and remote, virtual people. It could be 20 for all I know.”
It was three when the season ended. Longtime analytics guru Roland Beech was granted a promotion and carte blanche to hire as needed. It’s not as if Cuban is new to analytics. He was crunching outlier numbers when most of the league couldn’t even spell analytics. But as he says, it’s now about trying to stay one step ahead of an increasingly intelligent league.
The revamping of the roster was a scientific process. Some moves seem simple enough such as acquiring Chandler to beef up a loose interior defense. Some moves were more scrutinized, such as Cuban making his first free-agent call to Aminu, a player Cuban believes will aid shortcomings in perimeter defense and rebounding in short, strategic bursts.
“In building the team, we want to know what the skills are for each individual and we want to know how they impact the team, and that’s where analytics comes in,” Cuban said. “Like knowing Chandler Parsons is top five in this, how fast he runs on the court, how much effort he puts out, that type of thing. It doesn’t really get into how you price guys, but it makes a difference in how you play the game.
“This is so much more like the stock market than I ever imagined it would because all the old-school owners are gone. All the old guys that hired old-school coaches and GMs that didn’t get into it, they’re not in the game anymore.”
Cuban credits the champion San Antonio Spurs for being out in front of the intelligence curve. While coachGregg Popovich might seem like a curmudgeon on the outside, he and the organization are on the cutting edge of analyzing the tendencies of the game, the talent of individual athletes and how best to exploit both.
“The concept that San Antonio would beat the Heat because Danny Green and Patty Mills were sprinting up and taking pull-up 3s; that’s what won the championship for them,” Cuban said. “Like when you look at San Antonio, one of the things that was interesting is their guys sprint faster than any other team on fast break. And then when you look at why, it’s because, ‘Basketball 101′ says you protect the basket when you get back in transition defense. Well, if you’re sprinting two guys down to the corner 3, which is the best shot in basketball, you make the defenders make a choice. And then if you practice sprinting into a corner 3 like Patty Mills and Danny Green did, then all of a sudden you have an open 3. And if the guy can hit 40 percent on an open 3, that’s a good shot."
http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2014/09/23/cuban-ramps-up-roster-analytics-push/
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Cuban was just as geeked to talk about his ramped-up analytics effort and an organization that has declared statistical warfare on the rest of the league.
In fact, the one area in which Cuban added more personnel than the Mavs’ 15-man roster was the analytics department, a division that multiplied so swiftly following the first-round loss to the Spurs that Cuban says he’s lost count.
“I don’t even know,” Cuban said. “We have all these interns and remote, virtual people. It could be 20 for all I know.”
It was three when the season ended. Longtime analytics guru Roland Beech was granted a promotion and carte blanche to hire as needed. It’s not as if Cuban is new to analytics. He was crunching outlier numbers when most of the league couldn’t even spell analytics. But as he says, it’s now about trying to stay one step ahead of an increasingly intelligent league.
The revamping of the roster was a scientific process. Some moves seem simple enough such as acquiring Chandler to beef up a loose interior defense. Some moves were more scrutinized, such as Cuban making his first free-agent call to Aminu, a player Cuban believes will aid shortcomings in perimeter defense and rebounding in short, strategic bursts.
“In building the team, we want to know what the skills are for each individual and we want to know how they impact the team, and that’s where analytics comes in,” Cuban said. “Like knowing Chandler Parsons is top five in this, how fast he runs on the court, how much effort he puts out, that type of thing. It doesn’t really get into how you price guys, but it makes a difference in how you play the game.
“This is so much more like the stock market than I ever imagined it would because all the old-school owners are gone. All the old guys that hired old-school coaches and GMs that didn’t get into it, they’re not in the game anymore.”
Cuban credits the champion San Antonio Spurs for being out in front of the intelligence curve. While coachGregg Popovich might seem like a curmudgeon on the outside, he and the organization are on the cutting edge of analyzing the tendencies of the game, the talent of individual athletes and how best to exploit both.
“The concept that San Antonio would beat the Heat because Danny Green and Patty Mills were sprinting up and taking pull-up 3s; that’s what won the championship for them,” Cuban said. “Like when you look at San Antonio, one of the things that was interesting is their guys sprint faster than any other team on fast break. And then when you look at why, it’s because, ‘Basketball 101′ says you protect the basket when you get back in transition defense. Well, if you’re sprinting two guys down to the corner 3, which is the best shot in basketball, you make the defenders make a choice. And then if you practice sprinting into a corner 3 like Patty Mills and Danny Green did, then all of a sudden you have an open 3. And if the guy can hit 40 percent on an open 3, that’s a good shot."
I guess it was the new analytics department that advise Mark and Donnie to sign Chandler Parson and trade for Rondo.
2 terrible decisions.Shamrock32
Pro
It's funny how some of the best centers to play were 6'9"
Bill Russell
Ben Wallace
Dave Cowens
Wes Unseld was 6'7"
Willis Reed
Oliver Miller
I'm sure there are more
...the red sox just won in 2013 you idiot.
Field Marshall Bradley
Veteran
I guess it was the new analytics department that advise Mark and Donnie to sign Chandler Parson and trade for Rondo.
YOO!!!!
You beat me to it,,,,,
Field Marshall Bradley
Veteran
brick james
John piffington
brehs really in here sounding like conservatives the last time nate silver predicted that obama was gonna come through and crush the buildings
furthermore, i doubt theres more than a few people in here that know enough math to even comment on analytics...
furthermore, i doubt theres more than a few people in here that know enough math to even comment on analytics...
NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
I just got hired by a competitive analytics tracking company
Which bootleg search engine did you query this shyt in?
I was
at Ben Wallace, then he dropped Oliver Miller.
Art Barr
INVADING SOHH CHAMPION
I did not say emotion, I said soul of the game.
in college, jeez twenty years ago.
I was guessing the final score and winning brackets tournaments, for the college tour is.
all because I knew the soul of the game.
right now, these guys play low IQ bball.
for all their analytics, this crop of basketball players do not understand the game that that well.
to even play effective man to man without having a zone installed.
so, just kill all the analytics talk, in bball.
you can use it for baseball all you want.
yet, in bball...
you need more than so-called analytics.
as, I don't see any ballplayers on the level of chuck'n em like that.
these guys are not pedigree'd like that.
the only other pedigree'd guys in bball after Duncan is:
horford
piru
after that it is completely a void between who is really pedigreed, in the NBA.
so, all this analytics talk in bball is kinda futile anyway.
as outside those pedigreed guys, in Duncan, horford, piru.
when, the game deteriorates to its feral nature in competition in a finals level spirit of play.
talent in the NBA can be easily trumped by a more pedigreed coaching staff with a pedigreed actualized talent level roster.
pedigreed talent in abundance will beat raw talent because the talent is not generally and properly pedigreed.
formerly in the NCAA in the still skull.shocking defeat of unlv versus duke. When duke beat unlv is when the line separating raw actual talent being pedigreed and still losing to an inferior talent level team.
who was pedigreed did it turn into an idea and Michigan losing to a fully pedigreed team in duke with a considerable lower level talent but higher pedigree level.
did the pro game start to emulate the same ideal and principle as a consistency.
which the NBA is reflective of because of the low bball IQ times of poverty affecting the school systems.
now, what will happen is someone will bring up analytics.
to support how this low bball iq era is better than the past guard.
Yet, people who know the soul of the game like chuck.
can easily see what is missing and analytics is not going to give you that.
people also, forget in the spurs argument to close out on pop.
that popovich is more pedigreed than every coach in the league.
that even if you combined every coach's brain in the league on the sideline.
they couldn't beat a pop healthy and properly talent staffed team.
it is out of sheer pedigree, that pops has that advantage over the comp.
Pedigree and nuffin else.the analytics just aid him more.
You need pedigreed and properly coached talent to beat popovich staffed properly.
Analytics, are not going to help you.
unless you are staffed and coached on an even basis pedigree and talent wise in the finals.
As pop just proved his pedigree is more valuable than analytics because the rawest unpedigreed talent in bron.
could not beat pops with analytics.
plus, pops lost in a higher pedigreed and bball IQ era.
when raw more pedigreed talent is coached by lesser pedigreed talent staffed with the best pedigreed talent.
chuck is right.
analytics DON'T WORK!!
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Shamrock32
Pro
Which bootleg search engine did you query this shyt in?
I was
Wallace and Miller have always been listed at 6'9"
Oliver Miller was clearly a joke...... lol
I don't follow cac sports like baseball but aren't the red sox a big market franchise? don't they pay big money?You really think Wallace was one of the best centers to ever play?
