Charles Barkley rants about Analytics and destroys Rocket GM

[tremonthustler1]

what about it was dumb? what he said was true. analytics is just some shyt cacs who couldn't play made up so they could have a seat at the table. at the end of the day analytics don't win you championships. having the best players do just like it always been. miami ain't win cause of analytics. they won because they had 3 of the best players in the game. san antonio ain't win cause of analytics. they won cause they had the most talent 1-12 in the league. and so forth.

when's the last time the A's or some moneyball squad won a world series? its teams that got the most talent than win the chip. analytics is just some shyt for white nerds who could never play ball and want affiliation with sports.

Happens a lot in baseball. Why? Teams just use that formula and spend more on players like that.

 

[Tobias]

Mitch Kupchak built multiple championship teams and he's never refered to as a genius as much as Morey is(who's been out of round one once)

not saying he's bad but having shaq, kobe, pau and Phil doesn't make you a genius

 

[Pesci]

it's weird to me how threatened some people are by analytics. it's just a way to get closer to objective knowledge about the game. if anything, it makes traditional scouting more important.

 

[Absolut]

And I agree with you on the Sox but let's not pretend they haven't spent a ton of $$$ on players like the Yankees. A's do it cause those pockets aren't deep/willing to spend.

The a's play moneyball. I'm not going to debate that the Red Sox also play moneyball. They clearly don't. But sabermetrics =/= moneyball. Regardless of the salary differences, both teams employ sabermetric principles, which has helped Boston to some titles Oakland hasn't broken thru for yet. You can spend ass loads of money, while still looking for an edge with front office/managerial in-game decisions using sabermetrics. It's not just moneyball

 

[FreddyCalhoun]

Chuck is right this time...

 

[Charlie Broadway]

Can't believe how many people agree with him. Dumb as fukk

 

[Art Barr]

and fwiw, the core of the Knicks problems was they had too many cooks in the kitchen...and most of the cooks were idiots. I like Phil, but even bringing him on seems a step behind the 8 ball.

the problem with people speaking on the knicks is.
we don't know their scope for generating a profit.
or what work they are employing org wise.
so, it is hard to criticize them, wholeheartedly as they are profitable and know what to do in a press extensive city to still Generate a profit.
we all speculate but we don't know.
we don't know what admin coup's they are running on their roster and why.
we don't know what work they are running on their fan base, and why.
yeah, they have lost, but we don't know as an org exactly why.
ny, maybe running a complete carni based work.

Art Barr

 

[Miggs]

it's weird to me how threatened some people are by analytics. it's just a way to get closer to objective knowledge about the game. if anything, it makes traditional scouting more important.

Its equally wierd for me why analytical cats cant understand theres a ton of variables and open ends in those stats that make them inconsistent...

 

[Charlie Broadway]

Its equally wierd for me why analytical cats cant understand theres a ton of variables and open ends in those stats that make them inconsistent...

This is a strawman argument you cats always pull. Who says analytics is the end all be all? Link that. I'm tired of y'all liars. Everyone acknowledges it's just a tool.

 

[Pesci]

Its equally wierd for me why analytical cats cant understand theres a ton of variables and open ends in those stats that make them inconsistent...

No one is saying that it's the be-all end-all. I'm,not sure how many times this has to be stressed before people stop knocking down that straw man like it's a good point.

 

[Miggs]

This is a strawman argument you cats always pull. Who says analytics is the end all be all? Link that. I'm tired of y'all liars. Everyone acknowledges it's just a tool.

Your quoting tweets from a guy whos basically saying titles were owon using analytics,he purposely lied in his last tweet to make a case for analytics.
Suns were a good team not a good defensive team,just like the Nash Suns teams, he failed to mention the last part cuz it would malign the point he was making....

 

[Roadie pipeher]

This is a strawman argument you cats always pull. Who says analytics is the end all be all? Link that. I'm tired of y'all liars. Everyone acknowledges it's just a tool.

Right, nobody even the nerdiest of nerds believes math to be the focal point of anything, you can't even find one to quote...you can find people who say they their eyes are the end and be all though (they are clowns btw)

 

[Miggs]

No one is saying that it's the be-all end-all. I'm,not sure how many times this has to be stressed before people stop knocking down that straw man like it's a good point.

Then stop saying the Grizz are contenders because of Hollinger

 

[Pesci]

Then stop saying the Grizz are contenders because of Hollinger

do you have me confused with someone?

 

[Charlie Broadway]

Your quoting tweets from a guy whos basically saying titles were owon using analytics,he purposely lied in his last tweet to make a case for analytics.
Suns were a good team not a good defensive team,just like the Nash Suns teams, he failed to mention the last part cuz it would malign the point he was making....

aight i see your shtick. You didn't read none of that. Not only that you apparently can't comprehend the titles of the links. The word "help" was clearly used in every instance. I'll be waiting all week for you to back up the shyt you said because nobody said that dumb shyt in support of analytics.

Edit: at dude lying about Barkley's team.