Democrats’ Working-Class Problem Worsens As More Democrats Stray Away From The Party

[the cac mamba]

The party that aligns with your values is in power right now. Why you complaining?

you spent all of 2024 telling us how you weren't voting for biden, to stop trump from becoming president, because crying about palestine was more important

so why the fukk are YOU complaining?

 

[The Fade]

A lot of people are bullshytting and really just want to be friends with edgelord racists. That’s what they think is cool and stimulates them

Obsessed with a performative form of masculinity like they saving the world. In reality they are sitting on their couch watching pundits and podcasts praise base instincts as achievements, instead of doing internal cultivation and overcoming real challenges.

The state of the disease is terminal.

 

[Uachet]

So what exactly do you think the Dems should do? Bash trans people and immigrants more to try to win Trump voters?

You guys keep talking about win Trump supporters. People who voted for Trump are not the only pool of people who did not vote for the Democrats. What they should be doing is placing up plans and policies that will draw in many more of the non-voters and third party voters.

"The overall turnout of eligible voters in the 2024 general election was 63.7%.[1] This was lower than the 2020 record of 66.6%[2] but higher than every other election year since at least 2004."

Election results, 2024: Analysis of voter turnout in the 2024 general election

Ballotpedia: The Encyclopedia of American Politics

ballotpedia.org

That means there is a votes market that is untapped of 36.3%. They could focus on finding out why those people are not voting. If they actually focused more on issues that affect the bulk of the country, and less on issues that are seen as pro-deviancy and pro-illegal alien, they will probably draw in more people to vote for them.

The real problem though is that just like the Republican establishment, the Democratic establishment are corporate whores. Both parties are bought and paid for by Corporations and Oligarchs, which the Citizens United decision by the Supreme Court made legal. The Legislative branch could push to create an amendment that would remove that, but they will not because they like the flow of money coming in more than they feel compelled to do what is right for the US.

Still outside of that, if people want the illusion that their issues will be seriously considered by the Democrats, they need to focus their campaigns on the issues the working to middle class face. Return to being seen as the party of the average American, not the party of Fruit Loops and encouragers of illegal immigation.

Edit: Fixed a brain fart.

 

[the cac mamba]

Everybody who dapped this Republican is part of the stupid caucus that got us what we have.

i know this is a tough concept for some people, but you can vote for a political party, while still calling them out on their bullshyt

and i was advocating voting for kamala and biden, while your retarded buddies on the far left were saying to stay home over gaza. let me know when you call them out

 

[acri1]

A lot of people are bullshytting and really just want to be friends with edgelord racists. That’s what they think is cool and stimulates them

The disease is terminal

Pretty much. Being a Nazi is seen as cool and edgy in 2025

 

[acri1]

You guys keep talking about win Trump supporters. People who voted for Trump are not the only pool of people who did not vote for the Democrats. What they should be doing is placing up plans and policies that will draw in many more of the non-voters and third party voters.

"The overall turnout of eligible voters in the 2024 general election was 63.7%.[1] This was lower than the 2020 record of 66.6%[2] but higher than every other election year since at least 2004."



That means there is a votes market that is untapped of 36.3%. They could focus on finding out why those people are not voting. If they actually focused more on issues that affect the bulk of the country, and less on issues that are seen as pro-deviancy and pro-illegal alien, they will probably draw in more people to vote for them.

The real problem though is that just like the Republican establishment, the Democratic establishment are corporate whores. Both parties are bought and paid for by Corporations and Oligarchs, which the Citizens United decision by the Supreme Court made legal. The Judicial branch could push to create an amendment that would remove that, but they will not because they like the flow of money coming in more than they feel compelled to do what is right for the US.

Still outside of that, if people want the illusion that their issues will be seriously considered by the Democrats, they need to focus their campaigns on the issues the working to middle class face. Return to being seen as the party of the average American, not the party of Fruit Loops and encouragers of illegal immigation.

Again...I know I keep repeating this but Republicans control the media and are going to portray Dems that way no matter what they do. Kamala wasn't focusing her campaign on gays and illegals in the first place, Trump was.

And what do you do when the GOP starts going into a frenzy about DEI and CRT? Should Dems also bash black people to try appease the "average American"? That's a path I just don't like.

 

[the cac mamba]

One of the realest things ever spoken on this site. Dap+rep

he's right about that i can pick and choose to be a liberal

and that gives me insight about when democrats are fukking up, and turning off voters who can go either way

 

[Uachet]

Again...I know I keep repeating this but Republicans control the media and are going to portray Dems that way no matter what they do. Kamala wasn't focusing her campaign on gays and illegals in the first place, Trump was.

And what do you do when the GOP starts going into a frenzy about DEI and CRT? Should Dems also bash black people to try appease the "average American"? That's a path I just don't like.

The bold is false. There are plenty of Left leaning media, plenty of Right leaning media, and plenty of neutral media. PBS is a good neutral one. MSNBC is Left leaning, Fox is Right leaning. Plenty of blogs that are across the spectrum giving news. You want to escape the echo chamber of Twitter (X), then go to Bluesky or find a Discord that aligns with your views.

This idea that the Republicans are overwhelmingly in control of the narrative is false, and leans into defeatism.

 

[Uachet]

Again...I know I keep repeating this but Republicans control the media and are going to portray Dems that way no matter what they do. Kamala wasn't focusing her campaign on gays and illegals in the first place, Trump was.

And what do you do when the GOP starts going into a frenzy about DEI and CRT? Should Dems also bash black people to try appease the "average American"? That's a path I just don't like.

You ignore it and focus on creating a plan that draws people in. Also CRT should be something we are teaching our children and each other through our own foundations and organizations, not depending on government founded organizations to do. As long as they control the purse strings, they will always have power over just how much truth you can supply people with. If we do it ourselves, we can give our people the unvarnished truth without worrying about them stopping us.

As for DEI, there is only one solution for that. Win over the masses to get them out of office this midterm and next presidential election. Oh, and understanding the lesson in this, that what was given by WS can be taken by WS. So the true solution is to have our own means of supporting each other and perhaps also buy politicians like other groups are doing.

 

[Robbie3000]

you spent all of 2024 telling us how you weren't voting for biden, to stop trump from becoming president, because crying about palestine was more important

so why the fukk are YOU complaining?

Because Trump is antithetical to everything I believe and I voted for Kamala. What kind of question is this?

But you actually agree with everything Trump is doing including his attacks on DEI(you just won’t say it here). So I ask again, Why are you upset?

 

[the cac mamba]

Because Trump is antithetical to everything I believe and I voted for Kamala. What kind of question is this?

so you were completely full of shyt the whole time? because kamala's support of israel was indistinguishable from biden's. 100% the same

you made a fool of yourself with that "lose for palestine" shyt. we told you how fukking stupid it was

 

[Black Panther]

he's right about that i can pick and choose to be a liberal

and that gives me insight about when democrats are fukking up, and turning off voters who can go either way

No, it just makes you dishonest.

We're talking about principles, not political platforms. If your principles change whenever it's [in]convenient then you can't really be trusted.

 

[the cac mamba]

No, it just makes you dishonest.

We're talking about principles, not political platforms. If your principles change whenever it's [in]convenient then you can't really be trusted.

my principles haven't changed at all. i'm not the one changing them, defending retarded nonsense like trannies in sports, because Democrats decided to defend that

if Democrats said that 2+2=9 tomorrow, you'd start running with that too? because if not, it would be ceding something to republicans? embarrassing way to go through life

i support 80% of Dems' platform. 20% is wrong and embarrassing. i'm not gonna apologize for that

 

[2 Up 2 Down]

100. All the misinformation drowns out literally everything they do for people so they gonna have to figure out how to counter in a way that resonates and speaks volumes. It's a tall task cause the legacy media is complicit in the bs too. But they gonna have to figure out a way

Some people just want to believe the misinformation because it aligns with their biases. Look at this thread as far as the trans issue is concerned. No matter how much you prove people wrong they still act like Democrats were pushing some big trans right campaign last year. Even when pressed to provide proof they can't but they keep on

 

[No1]

The bold is false. There are plenty of Left leaning media, plenty of Right leaning media, and plenty of neutral media. PBS is a good neutral one. MSNBC is Left leaning, Fox is Right leaning. Plenty of blogs that are across the spectrum giving news. You want to escape the echo chamber of Twitter (X), then go to Bluesky or find a Discord that aligns with your views.

This idea that the Republicans are overwhelmingly in control of the narrative is false, and leans into defeatism.

Yes they are what the fukk are you talking about? They’ve bought or heavily invested in the most circulated newspapers, bought Twitter, control TikTok, and the heads of all the major news networks are republicans and have said they want them to be more comfortable. You guys are either idiots or are clearly conservatives trying to play dumb to push right wing shyt.