Ghostface Killah- Supreme Clientele Part 2

[THE 101]

I feel like a Ghostface Lost Tapes style release would've been the better move. He's probably sitting on some other stuff. Them J-Love mixtapes were classics but he could've used it to get some of them classics an official release.

Just in general it seems hip hop legends aren't taking advantage of their unreleased catalogs. You know see artists in rock, jazz and soul release collector additions of classic albums with unreleased joints, compilation albums of loosies, Miles Davis has full boxsets of recording sessions for particular albums.

 

[SilverSamurai]

I fukked with it

Didn't really need to be called Supreme Clientele 2 but it was good for what it was.

 

[Ty-Fife]

Sounds like it’s time to let West curate a project for him. Dude is practically begging to do it.

 

[bigde09]

I’ll keep maybe 4 or 5 songs

This kinda weak and shouldn’t have been called SC2

 

[Bugzbunny129]

Sounds like it’s time to let West curate a project for him. Dude is practically begging to do it.

they wint let rza do it who “currated” real classics you think they gon let gunn

Im willing to bet money that ghost will work with gunn, but not on a real project. Just BECAUSE he says that shyt.

 

[THE 101]

I just caught that Ghost stitched in a K-Dot reference in old ass Metaphysics

 

[TheDarceKnight]

That's basically where I'm at and like I said in another thread, artists like Slick Rick, Rae and Ghost got an originality and charisma that's lacking in most younger rapper doing music in that lane. So even past their prime they still got an element that's unique.

Dudes can talk about grading on a curve but it ain't about that. It's about being realistic. Especially when a lot of these dudes saying that will lose their mind over some incredibly boring music on here. But most musicians, every genre, drop their best work in their 20s and 30s. I'll take solid releases from the legends over nothing, everyday. Not everything got to be a classic to have value. Especially in this era where you don't got to pay a dime to listen or even spend time digging for it. LL, Clipse and Nas dropped some great projects in recent years and being active is the only way for that to happen.

Off first couple listens I prefer the Rae album to this. I know a lot been said about the production on there but Rae turned back the clock lyrically and he sounded 30 years old. This album got some joints but Ghost vintage energy ain't there with enough consistency. Still a solid release though.

I agree with most of this. All the more reason to not actually name it SC2.

But at the same time a lot of 40+ are killing it. You just gotta be authentic and feel like you’ve got something worth saying. The good albums from the older artists all have producers with very solid vision and direction

 

[Ziggiy]

Sounds like it’s time to let West curate a project for him. Dude is practically begging to do it.

The NAZI!?!!?

 

[Crumple]

What tracks in particular would you say have some type of correlation to the original Supreme Clientelle?

I feel.in a way Georgy Porgy and the Friend track with Meth.

The first cause it's soulful and the friend one cause it's pure like the one on Supreme about dating when in middle school.

 

[Ziggiy]

I feel like a Ghostface Lost Tapes style release would've been the better move. He's probably sitting on some other stuff. Them J-Love mixtapes were classics but he could've used it to get some of them classics an official release.

Just in general it seems hip hop legends aren't taking advantage of their unreleased catalogs. You know see artists in rock, jazz and soul release collector additions of classic albums with unreleased joints, compilation albums of loosies, Miles Davis has full boxsets of recording sessions for particular albums.

Samples probably too expensive to clear for the return they’d get. I remember Ghost himself being upset at the first week sales for Big Doe Rehab and mostly he was complaining about how much the samples cost.

Not being able to Clear samples have literally altered the course of some rappers careers, see Big Krit

 

[Bugzbunny129]

Samples probably too expensive to clear for the return they’d get. I remember Ghost himself being upset at the first week sales for Big Doe Rehab and mostly he was complaining about how much the samples cost.

Not being able to Clear samples have literally altered the course of some rappers careers, see Big Krit

This really is the issue here

Its either samples

Or the best producers

Not both. Is that because ghost cheap? Maybe. Thats what ykim said rza told him. But thats the defining factor here.

Difference is back in day we least got those cut og sampled tracks. Every ghost album had like 5-10 JOINTS cut from them which were always the best songs on the albums.

 

[987654321]

Break beat or Beat Box should have been one of the lead singles, and they should have been more fleshed out.

 

[TheDarceKnight]

The NAZI!?!!?

Pretty sure he meant Westside Gunn

 

[TheDarceKnight]

Samples probably too expensive to clear for the return they’d get. I remember Ghost himself being upset at the first week sales for Big Doe Rehab and mostly he was complaining about how much the samples cost.

Not being able to Clear samples have literally altered the course of some rappers careers, see Big Krit

I also think Mass Appeal is a label that insists on clearing them. A lot of stuff that just has those empire distribution deals but no real “label” is full of uncleared samples. Havoc and Alc were saying they had to clear a lot on this upcoming Mobb release on Mass Appeal

 

[Ziggiy]

Pretty sure he meant Westside Gunn

Ahh ok lol