Gretzky >>>>>> Jordan?? (Most dominant Ever)

[R.E.N. Spells Ren]

Gretzky didnt have dudes in LA wearing that black and silver Kings gear ?

Fashion, breh. nikkas wearing sports related shyt strictly cuz they like the way it looks is nothing new.

 

[Stack Money]

Every now and then you see articles trying to hype up the NHL by selectively comparing it to the NBA, despite the dismal ratings and low popularity.
Gretzky was great but his contribution on growing his sport was minimal at best. Hockey was and remains a niche sport outside Canada and some Scandinavian countries, so that plays against him (same goes for GOAT athletes in other smaller sports).

Gretzky made the NHL popular as hell here and is the reason why it became considered one of the 4 major sports, hockey is big internationally even bigger than basketball which is why USA stay winnin at the Olympics but Canada/USA don't consistently crush shyt cause there's more parity.

Hockey is actually more popular in North America cause it has a large amount of fans in the US especially in places like Chicago Detroit and Boston in addition to bein ridiculously huge in Canada, while basketball is big here but doesn't have as many fans in Canada as hockey has here cause Canadians are all about hockey and there ain't but 1 Canadian NBA team out of the 2 they had in history.

And NHL has great attendance numbers right now, better than the NBA who's attendance has been

Bill Russell's dominance and impact>Jordans

since when is michael jordan the most dominant basketball player?

^This. Michael Jordan wasn't even the most dominant in his own sport, since threadstarter wanna talk about championships Bill Russell winnin 11 in 13 seasons >>>>>> nikka even won 2 as a player/coach and woulda won every finals MVP if they had it back then which is why its now named after him.

That was strictly cuz of fashion, tho, not cuz of Gretsky's greatness.

They weren't wearin them before Gretzky came along and popularized the sport, nikkas in the hood never even thought about anythin hockey related before then. Gretzky comin to LA had nikkas out chea actually becomin fans watchin and goin to games and shyt, thats why in the 90s every rapper like Snoop and Pac were rockin hockey jerseys but you don't see it as much since Gretzky retired.

 

[the next guy]

Gretzky made the NHL popular as hell here and is the reason why it became considered one of the 4 major sports, hockey is big internationally even bigger than basketball which is why USA stay winnin at the Olympics but Canada/USA don't consistently crush shyt cause there's more parity.

Hockey is actually more popular in North America cause it has a large amount of fans in the US especially in places like Chicago Detroit and Boston in addition to bein ridiculously huge in Canada, while basketball is big here but doesn't have as many fans in Canada as hockey has here cause Canadians are all about hockey and there ain't but 1 Canadian NBA team out of the 2 they had in history.

And NHL has great attendance numbers right now, better than the NBA who's attendance has been


^This. Michael Jordan wasn't even the most dominant in his own sport, since threadstarter wanna talk about championships Bill Russell winnin 11 in 13 seasons >>>>>> nikka even won 2 as a player/coach and woulda won every finals MVP if they had it back then which is why its now named after him.


They weren't wearin them before Gretzky came along and popularized the sport, nikkas in the hood never even thought about anythin hockey related before then. Gretzky comin to LA had nikkas out chea actually becomin fans watchin and goin to games and shyt, thats why in the 90s every rapper like Snoop and Pac were rockin hockey jerseys but you don't see it as much since Gretzky retired.

Basketball is the number two sport in the world, I would not go that far. There is only 8 or 9 countries that play hockey so talent is concentrated. NBA also has the tv contract which >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>. any attendance numbers. Attendance is last century's game, the NHL wishes it had the large TV contract so they don't have to care about attendance numbers.

 

[mr x]

I thought this thread was about who was more dominant at their sport...not who the bigger icon was

 

[R.E.N. Spells Ren]

They weren't wearin them before Gretzky came along and popularized the sport, nikkas in the hood never even thought about anythin hockey related before then. Gretzky comin to LA had nikkas out chea actually becomin fans watchin and goin to games and shyt, thats why in the 90s every rapper like Snoop and Pac were rockin hockey jerseys but you don't see it as much since Gretzky retired.

Rappers don't rock jerseys much now, period, but they didn't stop rocking hockey jersey cuz of Gretzky retired...most don't even know when he retired. Is there a jersey snoop hasn't worn?

You're attributing folks wearing hockey jersey's to Gretsky, just to fit your narrative. Folks we're wearing jerseys knowing NOTHING about the teams they represented. They still do that with fitteds and caps today.

But if you wanna go the apparel route, how many people did Jordan have rocking the jumpman?

The magnitude of Jordan is seen in his crossover to other entertainment venues, Gretsky can't see him there

 

[MoneyTron]

I thought this thread was about who was more dominant at their sport...not who the bigger icon was

People really getting the two mixed up and it really only happens with MJ. Perception of MJ being their father keeps them from being objective.

 

[Propaganda]

gretzky having more assists than the 2nd leading scorer of all-time has in total points is one of the craziest stats in sports.

 

[superunknown23]

Insecure cacs desperately trying to hype up their niche sport again.
That moron actually said that hockey is more popular in North America and worldwide than basketball

 

[Trip]

Dominance? Its hard to argue anyone over Gretzky. If you took away all his goals he'd still be the NHL's all time leader in points. That's insane.

 

[Miggs]

Fashion, breh. nikkas wearing sports related shyt strictly cuz they like the way it looks is nothing new.

The fashion was the Raider blk and silver tho....dudes wouldnt have been checking for Kings gear if Gretzky hadnt of moved to LA...

 

[really]

Gretzky had more assists (1,963) than Mark Messier, the 2nd leading pt getter in NHL history has total pts (1,887) in 5 less seasons. Gordie Howe played 33 seasons and finished with 1,850 total pts. Gretzky had 4 seasons with over 200 points and 2,857 total pts in his career, almost 1000 more than Messier and over 1000 more than Howe. That's why just about everyone considers him the GOAT in hockey, except maybe some old bitter people who say he was protected, and the most dominant athlete ever. Can't really compare Gretzky and Jordan but it's hard to argue against that.

I always say Gretzky is the only athlete who is hands down the GOAT in his sport, though most people say Jordan is, there's strong arguments for Wilt, Russel, Kareem etc. There's not much of an argument for any other hockey player.

All regular season.

So in your Eyes, Peyton Manning >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Montana, because its all about Stats, right?


You are going to ignore the Fact that Wayne Gretzky compared to Michael Jordan in the Playoffs is LAUGHABLE? If he's such a good scorer / assist man, why didn't he win 6 Playoff MVPs? Why wasn't he even the best person on his own team in 2 of the Finals WINS?


You have no way to explain it... So you run to regular season stats that are hollow in comparison.



Fun Fact: Michael Jordan has the highest regular season PER in NBA history......


Highest in the regular season, in HISTORY.... Higher than ANYONE....



In the Playoffs, his PER is higher than it was in the regular season.....




/thread

 

[really]

Good topic executed just horribly




Gretzy turned human during the playoffs? Because his 1.92 points per game dropped to 1.84?

Yep... Exactly... Dipshyt



Jordan has the highest PER ever in the Reg season, and it INCREASED in the playoffs... (unreal)


You just said Gretzky took a dip



Sports is a game of inches fukk boy.... EVERY MILIMETER counts.... You have people crowning lebron the goat instead of the choke because RAY ALLEN hit 1 3... you nimcompoop....



If Gretzky at least KEPT HIS SAME SCORING AVERAGE, or INCREASED IT like Jordan, mAYBE he'd have 7 or 8 titles...



I appreciate you helping me prove my point without even knowing it... That's what dipshyts do.

 

[Kill Dat Noize]

The thing about the way the NBA is set up is that it's really hard to win a championship unless you really are the best.

So the fact that Jordan was so consistent (6/6 finals w/ 6 fmvps)... that means he was really the best. Like, really... REALLY the best.

But I'm ignorant to hockey. Jordan had Pippen. Did Gretzky ever play with another great player?

 

[really]

Good topic executed just horribly




Gretzy turned human during the playoffs? Because his 1.92 points per game dropped to 1.84?

Oh , for the record...



Jordan has the highest regular season scoring average in history, with 30.12



It went up to 33.45 in the playoffs






Call somebody the goat when they're productivity took a dive in the playoffs and the other guy you're comparing him to who was already the best in the regular season rose to an EVEN HIGHER LEVEL brehs

 

[really]

The thing about the way the NBA is set up is that it's really hard to win a championship unless you really are the best.

So the fact that Jordan was so consistent (6/6 finals w/ 6 fmvps)... that means he was really the best. Like, really... REALLY the best.

But I'm ignorant to hockey. Jordan had Pippen. Did Gretzky ever play with another great player?

Gretzky played with a top 10 player all time, Mark Messier.


Gretzky had 2 teammates win playoff MVP (meaning MVP for the ENTIRE playoffs... not just the stanley cup)



Some will argue scottie pippen isn't even a top 50 player of all time.... Gretzky played with a top 10 player and he lost MVP a few times... Tell me how many MVP's scottie has.


Bro... Don't pay attention to these idiots 1 starring the thread... Everything you need to know is in the original post.


Gretzky is not on Jordan's level. Thats it. Period.