How many allstars did Ewing and Drob play with in their primes.Yes. He's definitely mid at defense by he's the most talented on the offensive side. And doin it without another all star definitely has to count for something. I know Murray is nice and clutch but he laid some massive eggs throughout this playoffs.
Joker would need three chips for me to put him above the guys I listed clearly in front of him to me. He's in his prime so we'll see. But I'm definitely taking him over Admiral, Elvin, and especially Ewing.