This is actually a case where it seems that they have a right to be upset. The problem in these cases is that people either don't believe women or blindly believe them. Then, there's the third group who says they don't know but is ultimately okay with whatever happens to these guys. This is something where you have to pick a side and it's obvious what the problem is. These students no longer reciever due process. Would you say, I don't know what happened if someone was accused of rape, never allowed a representative, stood in front of body that favors the accuser, was only able to appeal to that same body and was ultimately stripped of their chance at an education and their reputation by a preponderance of evidence standard? That is what is happening in these college cases. The process alone very nearly invalidates any decision. And I don't just mean on behalf of the accuser. Some schools follow no protocols at all and are heavily biased against the accuser. I have cousins who play D 1 sports that have had white chicks start saying crazy shyt and then renege only because their feeling were hurt. This deserves more than "we don't know." We don't know should equal that no one is punished not that we casually walk away and say they should have not put themselves in that decision. This is when liberal people with good intentions end up undermining themselves. If these guys were proven innocent by all these other bodies, how does the school then decide to terminate them for engaging in the same behavior as every other college student? People need to step away from social justice buzz words and think critically.
I work on a college campus, student affairs office.
First of all, most survivors don't report on their assault taking place.
Second, universities would like to not have this stuff goto the police.
Third, your campus reputation may go down IF people find out about it because shyt is done in confidence. Because it stays internal and in confidence, you may legitimately be working with someone who raped some one.
D1 college athletes definitely have a different esteem because they are more visible. If a player is suspended we can find out why versus regular students.
The problem, and this is where our patriarchal rape culture comes into play, most of the victims of sexual assault on college campuses do not report. Those that do report, do not name the person who did it for fear of their own reputation and retaliation from the campus community.
In this, none of us know the details. Zero. The problem is both sides want to go to one extreme or the other.
Also what I listed is what tends to happen to victims of sexual assault. They shut down and go into survival mode and dissociate themselves from what is happening.
We, on this forum, are so concerned about the accused that we forget that there are many more who are victims. You can say liberal or progressive thinkers or whatever. I'm a human being with sisters, nieces, a mom, and a girlfriend. I care about that.
I also care about fighting for real issues. Fighting so your suspended teammates who are accused of gang raping someone is not the moment to take a stand on injustice. It's disgusting, and I am disgusted and saddened that these players are and that this forum predictably is.