~~~MMSex's Comprehensive Guide to Cutting for Beginners/Overweight/Obese~~~

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lifting should be judged by progression

are you adding weight? or adding reps?

if you arent doing one of those you are stalling.

youve never dropped pics so its hard to tell where youre at to judge

but if its consolation when i hit 149 i stalled to the point that i simply couldnt drop anymore weight, after bulking im only 155 but i look leaner.

not saying thats in your immediate future but dont rule out the need for a bulk
 

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Word bond, I'm back like I never left - benching my weight again, doing 200 pushups every other off day on top of my workout, walking 5-9 miles a day now (I still miss my HIIT cardio though), eating well and on a good, consistent schedule. 2300 calories a day, an average of 230 grams of protein. Last night had a fukking feast: lamb stew, chicken breast and leg, cous cous, and salad. Down from 265 to 237; starting to think I'm not supposed to be 218 like I was a few years back. I'll probably stay in this calorie range until I reach the 225-230 stage, then see how my body feels. Keep on the grind, even thoughb I have strong discipline, reading about y'all maintaining the dedication to reach your goals definitely keeps me humble and inspired. Excuse ae any wild typos, posting from my phone

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Hey um, this good for the ladies too?

This fat ass needs it, bad. :wow:

it works for ladies, and even the lifting(alittle bit lighter loads albeit) works too

i truthfully learned calorie counting from my aunt who of all the women in my family is the only one in her 60s that is consistently in good shape

knowing that she did it for years(with nothing more than walking) made it easier for me to believe what IIFYM was teaching me

just keep in mind, dont assume what you need. Calculate it using the calculator i provided and go from there, every 10-20lbs you can reenter numbers

calories/protein is the KEY factor worth tracking when it comes to weight loss everything else is secondary or unnecessary. Pure fat loss comes from preserving the muscle you have via lifting(and consuming enough protein TO preserve it)
 

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lifting should be judged by progression

are you adding weight? or adding reps?

if you arent doing one of those you are stalling.

youve never dropped pics so its hard to tell where youre at to judge

but if its consolation when i hit 149 i stalled to the point that i simply couldnt drop anymore weight, after bulking im only 155 but i look leaner.

not saying thats in your immediate future but dont rule out the need for a bulk

Adding weight but reps are the same. I need to do a better job logging that however. I don't have detailed pics either way. That said my stomach is still :snoop: so I got plenty to lose in that area. I really wanted to smash past one 170 but it isn't happening. I'm just going to focus on better lifting and increasing protein. As long as my weight doesn't increase :manny:
 

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track your lifts on a note pad

if i were a betting man considering you havent gotten into lifting until recent months

you lost a fair bit of muscle early on, as we talked about earlier increase your protein by anymeans right now and focus on hitting your 5lbs a workout(assuming youre doing StrongLifts/Starting Strength)
 

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Adding weight but reps are the same. I need to do a better job logging that however. I don't have detailed pics either way. That said my stomach is still :snoop: so I got plenty to lose in that area. I really wanted to smash past one 170 but it isn't happening. I'm just going to focus on better lifting and increasing protein. As long as my weight doesn't increase :manny:

I was always a basketball player, not a weightlifter, so don't take my advice as law, but it has always worked for me to switch my routine up every 4-8 weeks. First I'll rock with adding weight each time I lift until I stall, then I'll switch up for a while and focus on increasing reps (nothing crazy, 8 or 9 reps instead of 5). After a couple months I change my routine to brand new exercises. Keeps me from stalling too much and from getting bored.
 

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Fellas, do you allow yourselves any cheat days or do you strictly maintain your diet?

The kind of deficit I call for doesn't really require cheat days

As long as the weekly deficit is atleast 3500, it still works.
 

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Fellas, do you allow yourselves any cheat days or do you strictly maintain your diet?

Even with a 2300 calorie limit I eat really well, no need to "cheat." Did you see the meal I posted for my dinner last night? shyt was serious. I've rarely ever eaten empty calories in my life (soda, chips, shyt like that), and if you cut back on those you can eat plenty of hearty food in any given day. The key is to eat quality food throughout the day, you definitely don't ever have to feel like you're staving yourself.
 

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Even with a 2300 calorie limit I eat really well, no need to "cheat." Did you see the meal I posted for my dinner last night? shyt was serious. I've rarely ever eaten empty calories in my life (soda, chips, shyt like that), and if you cut back on those you can eat plenty of hearty food in any given day. The key is to eat quality food throughout the day, you definitely don't ever have to feel like you're staving yourself.

:ohlawd:

honest to god once you cut away empty cals eating to cut is a breeze

eating to bulk tho is a job :heh:
 

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Going without beer and wine is like the hardest thing for a nigguh right now....:sadbron: These so far are the only "empty calories" I miss.
 

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Word bond, I'm back like I never left - benching my weight again, doing 200 pushups every other off day on top of my workout, walking 5-9 miles a day now (I still miss my HIIT cardio though), eating well and on a good, consistent schedule. 2300 calories a day, an average of 230 grams of protein. Last night had a fukking feast: lamb stew, chicken breast and leg, cous cous, and salad. Down from 265 to 237; starting to think I'm not supposed to be 218 like I was a few years back. I'll probably stay in this calorie range until I reach the 225-230 stage, then see how my body feels. Keep on the grind, even thoughb I have strong discipline, reading about y'all maintaining the dedication to reach your goals definitely keeps me humble and inspired. Excuse ae any wild typos, posting from my phone

:salute:

First off, i just want to say good job on your cut. Keep up the good work. But how long did it take u to get where you're at now from your starting weight at 267? I'm currently 263 and i'm trying to cut to around 230-225. I'm just trying to get an idea for a realistic goal.
 
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