~~~MMSex's Comprehensive Guide to Cutting for Beginners/Overweight/Obese~~~

[MMS]

after going through it the first time

you got to bulk once you get that skinny. Consider what eating 1500 cals really means

your maintenance as a CONSISTENT lifter is ONLY 2000 cals

think about that, imo its better to bulk cleanly and develop the frame more that your resting maintenance is higher due to new muscle mass. Cause one of the biggest mistakes I made and others have is that you assume that the abs will be there the further you cut, thats the same as saying if you keep cutting youll eventually have a chest like arnold

you gotta work that muscle out too, and when ur cutting at that low of a level...muscle growth just aint happening to an appreciable extent (also something that i personally experienced )

 

[Golayitdown]

@MMSex Is this still the right place to go for cutting questions and progress? I read the whole thread and just got to the end to see It's been dead in here for a year. I'm just getting started and was planing on using this thread or one like it dedicated to cutting as a resource.

 

[MMS]

@MMSex Is this still the right place to go for cutting questions and progress? I read the whole thread and just got to the end to see It's been dead in here for a year. I'm just getting started and was planing on using this thread or one like it dedicated to cutting as a resource.

i can still hook you up, i just dont post as much as I used too

 

[Golayitdown]

i can still hook you up, i just dont post as much as I used too

I'm 29, 6'3", ~285. I just got started a few days ago with the weight lifting and watching the diet and I feel magnificent. I'm drinking only water, and doing no sweets and all that. I've always been a lover of grilled food, so the intake adjustment is easy.

I just looked at this thread yesterday (read all the way through) and was trying to figure out the proper calorie and protein intake. I used the exrx calculator from the OP, but I'm not sure about the numbers. I went through a couple of posts where people were entering numbers and tried to replicate their results in the calculator using their exact input and the output I was getting was even off. Is that still the best calculator to use?

 

[MMS]

I'm 29, 6'3", ~285. I just got started a few days ago with the weight lifting and watching the diet and I feel magnificent. I'm drinking only water, and doing no sweets and all that. I've always been a lover of grilled food, so the intake adjustment is easy.

I just looked at this thread yesterday (read all the way through) and was trying to figure out the proper calorie and protein intake. I used the exrx calculator from the OP, but I'm not sure about the numbers. I went through a couple of posts where people were entering numbers and tried to replicate their results in the calculator using their exact input and the output I was getting was even off. Is that still the best calculator to use?

the way i set it up works if you have no real history of lifting

if you work an office job and have no physical hobbies its safe to assume sedentary. That may change after months of lifting but if you want the fat to melt you gotta be real about your energy expenditure on a regular basis

 

[Golayitdown]

the way i set it up works if you have no real history of lifting

if you work an office job and have no physical hobbies its safe to assume sedentary. That may change after months of lifting but if you want the fat to melt you gotta be real about your energy expenditure on a regular basis

Yeah I got that. I put in the sedentary numbers (20-3-1) and was still a little off. Can you tell me what the right ones for my stats are?

 

[MMS]

Yeah I got that. I put in the sedentary numbers (20-3-1) and was still a little off. Can you tell me what the right ones for my stats are?

i got a total of 3200 maintenance

your daily would be 2700 calories with a minimum of 140g protein to consume daily, looks about right

split between two meals as i recommend that comes out to a 1000-1200 cal lunch and a 1500-1700 cal dinner

 

[Golayitdown]

i got a total of 3200 maintenance

your daily would be 2700 calories with a minimum of 140g protein to consume daily, looks about right

split between two meals as i recommend that comes out to a 1000-1200 cal lunch and a 1500-1700 cal dinner

Thanks for all of that and this thread homie. Looks like I can still grub very well. Would going down an additional 200 or so calories be within the safe range (not activating fat storage)?

Is there an upper limit on how much protein to take in? I've fell in love with a few high protein items and can eat those almost daily.

 

[MMS]

Thanks for all of that and this thread homie. Looks like I can still grub very well. Would going down an additional 200 or so calories be within the safe range (not activating fat storage)?

Is there an upper limit on how much protein to take in? I've fell in love with a few high protein items and can eat those almost daily.

140 is just the minimum, eat to your hearts content

just maintain the cals before everything else

 

[Golayitdown]

140 is just the minimum, eat to your hearts content

just maintain the cals before everything else

I'm eating very clean (no fried food, no liquid calories , no junk food) and I'm hitting my protein goals but routinely am around 2100-2200 calories a day. I'm full as hell and still can't hit those numbers without going all out and binge eating. Is that much of an extra defect OK or do I need to up my intake?

 

[The ADD]

@MMSex

 

[MMS]

I'm eating very clean (no fried food, no liquid calories , no junk food) and I'm hitting my protein goals but routinely am around 2100-2200 calories a day. I'm full as hell and still can't hit those numbers without going all out and binge eating. Is that much of an extra defect OK or do I need to up my intake?

youll feel it if your lifting hard

id recommend throwing either a shake before bed or on wake up to get your calories closer to what you need

extra deficit isnt a good thing. Better to maintain your musculature and melt just fat than risk muscle losses due to undereating

#1 reason taller guys have issues with body recomp. Just hunker down on that number until you lose 10 lbs, then reassess your numbers

 

[MeachTheMonster]

3 months in on a plan similar to OP.

25 pounds down, trying to keep it up.

I'm hungry as fukk 100% of the time

 

[MMS]

3 months in on a plan similar to OP.

25 pounds down, trying to keep it up.

I'm hungry as fukk 100% of the time

in order to make any change to any habit, you gotta make yourself alittle uncomfortable

stick to the rules and use some tactics:

IF style: no breakfast, small lunch, big dinner before bed (my preference)

glass of water before eating meals

snack on low calories vegetables through the lulls

theres other stuff out there, keep at it youll push through

 

[MeachTheMonster]

in order to make any change to any habit, you gotta make yourself alittle uncomfortable

stick to the rules and use some tactics:

IF style: no breakfast, small lunch, big dinner before bed (my preference)

glass of water before eating meals

snack on low calories vegetables through the lulls

theres other stuff out there, keep at it youll push through

I usually just try to stick to fruit/veggies in the morning cause I know I'm gone fukk up some food for diner.

I was able to totally stop drinking pop/juice. I drink just water and unsweetened green tea.

My problem is fukking beer. Literally every day is a struggle with me fighting myself not to drink.

Some days I eat absolutely nothing all day just so I can drink some beer in the evening. I know it's not healthy but, I can't help it.

I need some zero calorie stuff that makes you feel full.