"“It is important to remember that a prenuptial agreement is worthless if a judge determines that it is not valid. The courts will not honor any prenuptial agreement if they feel that it is unreasonable or that it was signed under duress, threat, or force by either party. A judge will also not uphold any prenuptial agreement provision that has to do with child custody or child support. Spouses have the right to waive their own rights (i.e. rights to property or alimony) in a prenuptial agreement but not the rights of their children. A judge always has the final word on issues involving children after death or divorce. A child’s best interests will always have priority over the will of either parent in a divorce.” Source: divorcelawyersource.com
So not only do you have to take her at her word that she’ll be a good wife, you also have to trust that a feminist family court judge won’t find any or all of the language in your prenup “unreasonable” OR reasonable, but having a “negative effect on the children” and therefore invalid in part or in whole.
So this leaves today’s man with four primary choices: 1) Marry and hope for the best, 2) Go your own way and forgo marriage and children, 3) Produce children through an arrangement that may or may not include cohabitation, and 4) Pick the right wife.
Let’s take a look at these choices.
I. Marry and hope for the best.
I don’t think anyone (pro-marriage or not) reading this thinks this is a good idea, so we can probably move on.
II. Go your own way and forgo marriage and children.
This is the path I have chosen. If I change my mind when I’m 50 and choose to ride it out with some old broad, I can do so. The older I get, the more valuable I become in the SMP, and there will never be a shortage of 35-45 year old single mothers to choose from. I’ve never had a strong desire to have children, so to me, all I’m giving up is having a wife. This is a no-brainer if you don’t have a burning desire to procreate. But some men understandably do want children of their own, which leads us to…
III. Produce children through an arrangement that may or may not include cohabitation.
In my opinion, if you absolutely must have children, this is the most Alpha way to go about it if for no other reason than it is truly a test of your Alpha cred. If you can get a woman to commit to you on equal terms and continually earn your commitment instead of resting on a contractual safety net while you walk the divorce tightrope over Niagara Falls, you sir, have your shyt together. Of course, you won’t know if you’re successful until the kids are 18 years old, so good luck. The man who takes this path is putting his children at a little more up-front risk than a married man, but it balances out because he may be better suited to care for his children if the relationship dissolves since he won’t lose half his shyt in the divorce. A strong cohabitation agreement is better than a strong prenup, because you can add much more language (sexual fulfillment, household duties, financial contributions, etc.) to a cohabitation agreement. However, my research showed that a good number of lawyers say prenups and cohab agreements are “equally unenforceable”, so there’s still major risk associated with this choice. Source: American Academy of Matrimonial Lawyers.
Regardless of what you do, if you’re going to have children in America, you’re taking a huge risk. That’s why an element of faith and Disney-inspired romanticism is usually what it takes to get a man to embrace the concept of modern marriage. This leads us to…
IV. Pick the right wife.
In an article posted by Tao of Dirt called “On Marriage”, the Dirt Man wisely warns about the pitfalls of marrying the typical American woman. I’m using this article as an example because I respect Dirt Man’s opinion and I enjoy his writing, even though I think he left out a key phrase at the end of each example of who he thinks would make a good wife. The list below comes from his article, but the phrases in bold were added by me.
“But remember that there are women in the world who will:”
add value to your life and lessen burdens that you’ll otherwise carry on your own and will never change her mind
be fun, sexy, feminine, and make you laugh much of the time (not all of the time obviously)
and will never change her mind
take care of you when you are sick and will never change her mind
do their best to stay slim and sexy through the years, and who age well (think asians)
and will never change her mind
clean your house, cook your food, and mend clothing and will never change her mind
keep your sex life interesting (and there are always side dishes as our lord and master points out) and will never change her mind
be a good mother to your children and will never change her mind
be content doing these things and never change her mind
So I guess the real question boils down to “are you willing to take the risk?” Are you so damn sure of yourself that you think you can see the future and pick a woman who will be all of those things forever? If your answer is “yes”, you’re a fool; no man can predict the future. If your answer is “no”, then I must assume that you’ve assessed the situation, and feel the potential benefit is worth the potential risk.
If you have assessed the situation under a red pill microscope and determined the potential benefit is worth the potential risk, then my argument against marriage is in no way more valid than your argument for it. We can have a gentleman’s disagreement, chalk it up to personal differences in risk tolerance, and continue on with mutual respect.
But if you’re some beta assclown with a NAWALT attitude and a hard on for Jeebis, I couldn’t possibly have less respect for you. And if you’re a woman, your opinion on marriage is worthless since you are the primary (and singular, in my opinion) benefactor. Asking a woman what she thinks of marriage is like asking Obama what he thinks about a 2nd term.
On that note, a comment by Dillon on the Minter post struck me as genius. I’ve been wasting my precious time here at UMan trying to promote a no-marriage unplugged mindset. The red pill men who for whatever reason have decided to marry will do so with or without my blessing, and the beta fukktards will do the same. Because of this, I’m changing my stance on marriage – not for me, but certainly for you – and I owe this major change of approach to Dillon’s comment:
I encourage other men to marry.
Who else is going to slave away keeping the wheels of this ‘hopes and dreams’ based ponzi scheme we call society running? Certainly not me.
So, dream away friends. There must be a diamond out there in that landfill. Don’t let anyone tell you otherwise. They must be bitter.
fukking brilliant."
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