This is too true, too many dudes scared to bush a chick and it just bites them in the ass later.
I'm super frugal with my time, if a chick is on the slightest bullshyt I lose the number too many other girls out here to be worried about just one.
Essential Quick Lil Gems on Dealing with Women
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I'm super frugal with my time, if a chick is on the slightest bullshyt I lose the number too many other girls out here to be worried about just one.
Never set a date until you parlay. Meeting a chick is when you determine if YOU really want to go on a date with her. Closing doesn't warrant a date by its lonesome.
Parlay when you getting the number. You already have her defenses (somewhat) neutralized. That's the time to decide on if a date is needed. If you let her make that choice (and depending on the chick, we all are capable of doing that), follow-up is imperative. Think like a boxer if you are a serial dater type. How she take the jab(pointed questions designed to get a read and feel on her). Otherwise, well, don't be Larry Holmes paperworkish in your 20s. That's amateur fights if the boxing analogy is still working.
Even if you don't immediately set a date with a number you score, that isn't a loss. Make sure you know who you're dueling with first. But never forget, it's still a Chess match. I want you to win.
Parlay when you getting the number. You already have her defenses (somewhat) neutralized. That's the time to decide on if a date is needed. If you let her make that choice (and depending on the chick, we all are capable of doing that), follow-up is imperative. Think like a boxer if you are a serial dater type. How she take the jab(pointed questions designed to get a read and feel on her). Otherwise, well, don't be Larry Holmes paperworkish in your 20s. That's amateur fights if the boxing analogy is still working.
Even if you don't immediately set a date with a number you score, that isn't a loss. Make sure you know who you're dueling with first. But never forget, it's still a Chess match. I want you to win.
In other words multiple phone calls before a date?
As many as you need to get to your first move. But a date shouldn't strictly be a fact-finding mission. You find out the big details prior. Otherwise, you could waste a date on a dud.
Which is opposite of the mantra drilled in here
Reason #4080 why I'm not in the field...no rules
m0rninggl0ry
All Star
Been there done that
Wouldn't advise brehs to
Your ladies is meant to be the sunshine
It's water over the bridge
Put it like this..
1st Call..You
She then needs to reach out to you...
Then go for the date...
You should get the foundation of her from the 1st call...if you want to proceed, then you build from there
the older i get, the last time i have to talk to women on the phone.
i say first call, keep it short and sweet. set a cheap date (coffee, tea, drinks) and check the vibe from there. I used to think time was better invested in getting to know the chick over the phone to determine if there is a connection. then i realized a lot of people adopt (maybe unconsciously) different personas over text/phone vs in person. so i figure you might as well meet in person right away and see if she's about what you're about (whatever that is). if not, it cost you whatever a cup of coffee costs in your city
i say give a good 10/15 mins of phone time and then set the date and KIM. talking to her and then waiting for her to call is too passive imo. I think giving her the right options is key.
but like others said, everyone has their own style and people have to do things in a way that makes them enjoy the process.
Youseenmywork
KING
I often browse other sites for various reasons. One if those reasons is to better understand the dynamics between men and women and broaden my perspective or be open to a diffrent way if looking at thing. I've been a fan of illiamitable men .com for a while it like a professor teaching you the best way to go about women all the while teaching to be a better man not for women. Anyway a women asked him some questions about the Red pill and his answers were something that I felt a need to be posted....so enjoy
“Why does “an ideal woman” have to have as few sexual partners as possible?”
Women don’t need to work to get sex, sure certain men may present a challenge because they’re out of her league but if she works within her level and goes out tonight and tells a guy that she wants him then 9/10 guys will go off with her there and then and fukk her. It takes no skill for a woman to get sex and therefore it does not merit any respect or admiration. Women are the gatekeepers to sex, men are quite crudely, generally up for it most of the time, specific men aside.
This means her “conquests” are not “conquests” but merely offerings, if she is offering herself up to half the town, to a guy that doesn’t warrant respect, but disgust. It essentially says “I’m low value because I offer the best part of myself for very little.”
High value women should only be giving it up to a boyfriend, the signifiers of high value women are that they have had few relationships lasting long periods of time and minimal hook-ups, if she’s constantly in and out of relationships, or constantly hitting the clubs and bars and going home with different men, she’s probably emotionally unstable and not worth touching with a bargepole.
There’s irony here because if the girl is low value, guys want her to give it up on the first night because to them she has no value other than a fukk, however if they’re considering her for a relationship they want her to be one of the girls who doesn’t do that. The difference in preference is based on the approach. If you just want to fukk a girl you don’t really care if she’s a slut, in fact being a slut makes it easier to have sex with her.
If you want to build a family with a woman, you don’t want her to be a slut because it means you’re investing all this love, time, energy and investment into her and she may squander that by betraying you to fukk another guy.
Part 2 in the next post....
“Why does “an ideal woman” have to have as few sexual partners as possible?”
Women don’t need to work to get sex, sure certain men may present a challenge because they’re out of her league but if she works within her level and goes out tonight and tells a guy that she wants him then 9/10 guys will go off with her there and then and fukk her. It takes no skill for a woman to get sex and therefore it does not merit any respect or admiration. Women are the gatekeepers to sex, men are quite crudely, generally up for it most of the time, specific men aside.
This means her “conquests” are not “conquests” but merely offerings, if she is offering herself up to half the town, to a guy that doesn’t warrant respect, but disgust. It essentially says “I’m low value because I offer the best part of myself for very little.”
High value women should only be giving it up to a boyfriend, the signifiers of high value women are that they have had few relationships lasting long periods of time and minimal hook-ups, if she’s constantly in and out of relationships, or constantly hitting the clubs and bars and going home with different men, she’s probably emotionally unstable and not worth touching with a bargepole.
There’s irony here because if the girl is low value, guys want her to give it up on the first night because to them she has no value other than a fukk, however if they’re considering her for a relationship they want her to be one of the girls who doesn’t do that. The difference in preference is based on the approach. If you just want to fukk a girl you don’t really care if she’s a slut, in fact being a slut makes it easier to have sex with her.
If you want to build a family with a woman, you don’t want her to be a slut because it means you’re investing all this love, time, energy and investment into her and she may squander that by betraying you to fukk another guy.
Part 2 in the next post....
Youseenmywork
KING
PART 2
Men are the de facto gatekeepers to commitment, they choose whether they want to stick around after fukking you. Your power is in your p*ssy (to begin with) your ability to keep a man lays in your personality traits. His power lays in whether he’s going to invest in you after he’s fukked you.
If you don’t seem like a good deal, if he doesn’t enjoy your company or he finds you to be shallow or annoying then why should he keep investing in you? Because otherwise he’s an a$$hole or because of your delicate sensibilities?
Red pill philosophy teaches men to put themselves before women, much to the dismay of mainstream society – if it’s not a good deal to him then you’re not worth the commitment. /r/redpillwomen essentially helps women become “a good deal” after all if you want long-term commitment, you’ve gotta work for it. It doesn’t just drop out of the sky, nobody’s entitled to anything “just because” but the concept of earning commitment seems lost to most women, they rely on their looks too much – then they get old and lose their looks.
This is what is referred to in the red pill philosophy as “the wall” it’s around the age of 27 – 35 (depending on the specific woman) when a woman’s physical appearance takes a sudden dive south she begins to finds her life becoming less enjoyable because essentially, her beauty privilege is fading. Guys now pay less attention to said woman and because she didn’t spend her youth cultivating personality traits which men value, the asset she has exploited for the entirety of her life to get by is beginning to fail her and she can feel her power and social leverage weaken in its sphere of influence.
As her social value falls, her misery increases – it’s usually at this stage where women panic, they want a family/baby and become more open-minded in regards to learning new things and essentially try to give their personality a makeover in order to secure a mate; both because they fear the prospect of being socially unsuccessful as well as reproductively which ultimately leads to life loneliness.
This is the stage where if a woman cannot improve herself, she’ll “settle” for a man, quite miserably, who she perceives as “beneath her” because of all the hot guys she had back in her younger days, however because her sexual value has fallen with age she is unable to still get that same calibre of man for a one night stand, let alone a commitment and thus “the settling.” This is what ultimately leads to a lot of resentment and bitterness from women and constitutes a huge part of the core demographic in the most radical elements of the feminist movement, blaming their lack of social/sexual appeal on concepts like “the patriarchy” and “misogyny” to rationalise away their lack of biological attractiveness to the opposite sex and the social ramifications which follow from that.
Men are the de facto gatekeepers to commitment, they choose whether they want to stick around after fukking you. Your power is in your p*ssy (to begin with) your ability to keep a man lays in your personality traits. His power lays in whether he’s going to invest in you after he’s fukked you.
If you don’t seem like a good deal, if he doesn’t enjoy your company or he finds you to be shallow or annoying then why should he keep investing in you? Because otherwise he’s an a$$hole or because of your delicate sensibilities?
Red pill philosophy teaches men to put themselves before women, much to the dismay of mainstream society – if it’s not a good deal to him then you’re not worth the commitment. /r/redpillwomen essentially helps women become “a good deal” after all if you want long-term commitment, you’ve gotta work for it. It doesn’t just drop out of the sky, nobody’s entitled to anything “just because” but the concept of earning commitment seems lost to most women, they rely on their looks too much – then they get old and lose their looks.
This is what is referred to in the red pill philosophy as “the wall” it’s around the age of 27 – 35 (depending on the specific woman) when a woman’s physical appearance takes a sudden dive south she begins to finds her life becoming less enjoyable because essentially, her beauty privilege is fading. Guys now pay less attention to said woman and because she didn’t spend her youth cultivating personality traits which men value, the asset she has exploited for the entirety of her life to get by is beginning to fail her and she can feel her power and social leverage weaken in its sphere of influence.
As her social value falls, her misery increases – it’s usually at this stage where women panic, they want a family/baby and become more open-minded in regards to learning new things and essentially try to give their personality a makeover in order to secure a mate; both because they fear the prospect of being socially unsuccessful as well as reproductively which ultimately leads to life loneliness.
This is the stage where if a woman cannot improve herself, she’ll “settle” for a man, quite miserably, who she perceives as “beneath her” because of all the hot guys she had back in her younger days, however because her sexual value has fallen with age she is unable to still get that same calibre of man for a one night stand, let alone a commitment and thus “the settling.” This is what ultimately leads to a lot of resentment and bitterness from women and constitutes a huge part of the core demographic in the most radical elements of the feminist movement, blaming their lack of social/sexual appeal on concepts like “the patriarchy” and “misogyny” to rationalise away their lack of biological attractiveness to the opposite sex and the social ramifications which follow from that.
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the older i get, the last time i have to talk to women on the phone.
i say first call, keep it short and sweet. set a cheap date (coffee, tea, drinks) and check the vibe from there. I used to think time was better invested in getting to know the chick over the phone to determine if there is a connection. then i realized a lot of people adopt (maybe unconsciously) different personas over text/phone vs in person. so i figure you might as well meet in person right away and see if she's about what you're about (whatever that is). if not, it cost you whatever a cup of coffee costs in your city
i say give a good 10/15 mins of phone time and then set the date and KIM. talking to her and then waiting for her to call is too passive imo. I think giving her the right options is key.
but like others said, everyone has their own style and people have to do things in a way that makes them enjoy the process.
Yeah I mean it depends on the individual..
If your less experienced with women, you should definitely aim for the meet up asap imo..
Nuke Dukem
Da Bears
I've got a good story...
Seen this Puerto Rican chick from back in highschool on my fb...
She only use to fukk with the dope dealers n shyt like that...
So I said fukk it .. it's 10yrs later Ima shoot my shot...
I linked up with her last night, we walked, smoked, talked most of the night...
When 1am hit she said she was down to kick it some more.. So I told her I could grab us a room.. she agrees that's a good idea..
I went n grabbed some rubber/liquor/and another blunt...
I ended up beating her shyt in twice last night and once this morning...
So yeah good times..
Seen this Puerto Rican chick from back in highschool on my fb...
She only use to fukk with the dope dealers n shyt like that...
So I said fukk it .. it's 10yrs later Ima shoot my shot...
I linked up with her last night, we walked, smoked, talked most of the night...
When 1am hit she said she was down to kick it some more.. So I told her I could grab us a room.. she agrees that's a good idea..
I went n grabbed some rubber/liquor/and another blunt...
I ended up beating her shyt in twice last night and once this morning...
So yeah good times..
Dreamzeedream
Banned
Get it together brehI be putting up with a lot of shyt just for the sake of potential vagina
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