Essential Quick Lil Gems on Dealing with Women

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something else i want to speak on for dudes who are in a relationship.

don't be a fukking male sitcom character with your girl. that shyt is not cute. your girl is not your mommy and she's not your boss. what i mean by that is, don't be proud to be dumb or submissive infront of your girl. don't be scared of her reactions to anything. don't be a little bytch and don't hide shyt from her like a little bytch (purchases, plans to hang out with other people, etc).

typical scenarios: you're girl asks you if you want to go to some boring gathering with her friends and their mates. Now you don't necessarily feel like going but at the same time you know she might get mad if you say no. what i'm saying is, don't be a bytch. don't say yes because you're scared of her being mad at it and scared of her reactions. and don't say yes and then act like a miserable man who was forced to go somewhere he didn't want to go (passive aggressive). I have no definite answer if you should go or not cause the truth is, there is no right answer. Also, i'm not saying not to consider her feelings at all. what i'm saying is consider your feelings as well and decide if you can afford to sacrifice some of your pleasure for hers and if so, how much (and she should never feel entitled to that sacrifice). What i'm saying is, if you choose to go, it should be because you want to make her happy, not because you don't want to make her mad. Seems like almost the same thing but believe me, there is an important distinction between the two. what you can or can't sacrifice as far as time, responsibility and money is a personal choice and depends on your circumstances as well.my point is, it should always be your choice and you should never allow fear to dictate that choice. The male sitcom character has no choice because his wife owns his balls. if he wants to enjoy life he has to scheme behind his girl's back because she is above him in his mind.

again, this doesn't mean not to consider her feelings in your decisions. but what you feel should be as important (if not more important) when you take decisions. never allow her to feel entitled or to choose for you. and you should have that attitude for any decision whether it's purchasing a TV for the home, hanging out with the homies or marriage/buying a home/having children.



True Story: My neighbor's girlfriend wanted him to go to some birthday party and I'm guessing from the conversation he didn't want to go and gave no fukks about it. So from 10:00pm to 1:00am, I had to hear how this was her best friend's birthday and why was he not coming to the party. We have a security door you have to go through to get to our apartments and when they slam, they are loud as fukk. So the whole time during the argument, she was going in and out of his apartment, slamming the security door, his apartment door, calling him every name in the book, completely going off because this was her best friend's birthday party. Over and over again, this is MY BEST FRIENDS BIRTHDAY PARTY!! I never heard him raise his voice, I don't even know what he said, but I do know he didn't cave in and go to that party. The ONLY reason she stopped at 1:00am is because I had to call the police on that girl. shyt, I had to work the next day. By this time, I'm thinking the party has to be damn near over.

Apparently the cop slipped in the building and caught her off guard. Her ass calmed down but I heard her tell the officer he doesn't want to go to my best friend's birthday party. I heard the officer go, keep on and you will not be making an appearance also. So he escorted her of the property.

About 15 minutes later, you hear dude go....Stop calling my fukking phone. I ain't going no where. You know what....Biiiiiiiitch it is over. fukk you and your best friend.

I got confirmation later in the week they broke up. I told him I like how he stuck to his guns and didn't let her tantrum get to him.
 

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Man...so I'm 29 and lately have been having a ton of dates with women in their early 30's.. Taking women out on casual dates in their 30's is kind of weird brehs...I can't quite put my finger on it but it's been a common occurrence to talk about having childen and bring up the subject of starting a family very early on upon meeting them. Like wtf I know your biological clock is ticking but be easy!

Like I took a shorty out last night, everything was cool till she started talking about interest in having children...I'm like :whoa: this is our first date, but I let that go. She also seemed really lowkey depressed about her age (she was 32), school dept, and career prospects (even though she has a dope job)...real talk that lowkey killed my vibe. Other then that she seems like a cool chick to casually date i guess


Why even waste your time and money "casually" dating women that are 30+? Real talk a lot of women become boring once they hit 30. I'm 33 and the women I deal with are in the 22-28 age range. They are younger, have no children and like to have a good time. :blessed:
 
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Why even waste your time and money "casually" dating women that are 30+? Real talk a lot of women become boring once they hit 30. I'm 33 and the women I deal with are in the 22-28 age range. They are younger, have no children and like to have a good time. :blessed:

Cant write shawty off..shes decent looking, well educated, and doesnt have kids.:yeshrug:
 

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Cant write shawty off..shes decent looking, well educated, and doesnt have kids.:yeshrug:

Do you think you are going to smash or just be a guy that takes her out once a month on casual dates?
 
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JUST saw my old 8th grade teacher

we talked for a gud 10-15 minutes

got her number.....................

wonder where this will lead
 
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Buffers

By Rollo Tomassi

Rejection is better than Regret.

Sifting through some of my past posts on the SoSuave forum it hit me; over 90% of what I advocate there can be reduced to overcoming a fear of rejection. 90% of the dilemas AFCs and rAFCs find themselves in, and a majority of men’s concerns, with the opposite sex find their roots in the methods and means they use to reduce their exposure to female rejection. These are buffers meant to reduce the potential for this rejection of intimacy. Men of course aren’t the only ones who use buffers – women have their share as well – but I think it would be much more productive for guys to recognize this propensity in themselves and see the methods they use, and often ego-invest in their personal psychologies, to buffer themselves against rejection.

Virtually every common problem guys deal with finds it’s basis in these buffers:
LDRs - Long Distance Relationships. The AFC will entertain an LDR because it was based on a previous acceptance of intimacy and being no longer convenient (due to distance) the guy will cling to the “relationship” because it’s a buffer against potential rejection from new women instead of accepting the relationship as being finished and maturely re-entering the dating pool. It’s a perceived “sure thing”, even if only rarely rewarding.

Playing Friends - Usually after an LJBF rejection where the perception is the potential love interest “might” later become an intimate with time and qualification. No matter how misguided, the time and effort spent by an AFC in proving himself as the would-be “perfect boyfriend” is a buffer against further rejection by new potential females, which is then further compounded by a moralistic sense of duty to be an actual Friend to his LJBF girl. In essence, his buffer against further rejection is his misplaced dedication to the LJBF girl. Another variation of this is the Cap’n-Save-A-Ho dynamic.

Emails, IMs and Texts - I should also add lengthy phone conversations to this list as well, but really any technology that seemingly increases comunication serves as a buffer (for both genders) the more it limits interpersonal communication. In the AFC case, the rationalization is that it keeps him in constant contact with his sex interest (which in and of itself is a mistake), but only serves as a buffer against her rejection. The latent peception being that it’s easier to read a rejection (or hear one) than to potentially be rejected in person. A lot of guys will counter this with how Texts and IM’s are just how this generation plies it’s Game. The difference I’d argue is that when digital communication becomes yourpreferred method of interacting with women, it’s a buffer.

Facebook & Online Dating - This one should be fairly obvious for the same reasons as above – Online dating is perhaps the best buffer ever conceived – particularly for less than physically ideal women. In fact it’s so effective that businesses can be built upon the common insecurities and fear of rejection of both sexes.

Objectification of Gender – This might be less obvious, but both sexes tend to objectify the other. Naturally when we think of this, the popularized notion is that men objectify women as sex objects, but women have a tendency to objectify men as “success objects” for the same reason. It is easier to accept rejection from an object than it is to take it from a living, breathing, human being. This is why we refer to intergender communication as a “game.” We “score” or we get “shot down” not personally or emotionally rejected; the buffer is in the language and mental approach.

Idealization of Gender - This is the myth of the “Quality Woman.” The buffer operates in perceived self-limitations based on a search for an ideal mate. Thus a tendency to fixate on one woman (ONEitis) or one type of woman (a gender Archetype) develops. By limiting to, and/or fixating on one woman (or type) the potential for rejection decreases, while insuring that any real rejection will come only from what will later be deemed non-qualified women. Rejection = ‘Low Quality Woman’ and is thus disqualified. This works in a similar fashon to the objectification buffer in that the woman delivering the rejection is reduced to an object.

Scarcity Mentality - The “Take What I Can Get and Be Glad I Got It” mentality acts as a buffer in that it works opposite of the Idealization buffer. Deprivation is motivation, and by sticking with the “sure thing” as the “only thing”, the potential for new rejection is then eliminated.

Older Women, Younger Women – I should also include certain body types in this category as well, but the buffer is in certain types of women being less likely to reject a man due to their personal circumstances. The Cougar dynamic debate has been done into irrelevancy, but the buffer is that older women, acting in accordance with their conditions, will be more inclined to accept the advances of younger men. In the same vein, very young girls will be more apt to accept the advances of older men due to naiveté and fat women are easier to become intimate with due to sexual deprivation. This isn’t rocket science, but an internalized preference for particular women develop by associating that particular type of woman with the minimization for potential rejection.

Leagues – This is the opposite of a “high standards” buffer which could be grouped with Scarcity. There is the woman some guys actually fear because she is perceived to be so much more socially valuable than the AFC. Think of the HB9+ corporate director who runs marathons, travels a lot, has good friends, dresses well, etc, etc, etc. The AFC tells himself “wow is she out of my league I would just get shot down because I would need to possess A, B & C to be her social status equal for her to even be interested”. Ergo, the idea of Leagues is a useful rationalization buffer against rejection.

Pornography I realize this will draw some fire from the masturbation / no-masturbation set, but porn (as men use it) is a Buffer against rejection. Porn doesn’t talk back, porn doesn’t need a few drinks to loosen up nor does porn require any social skills to produce rewards. It’s convenient, immediate, sexual release that requires nothing more than a PC and an internet connection (or a magazine if you prefer the analog means). We can argue the obsessive-compulsive aspect of it, or the “my GF and I enjoy porn together” reasoning, but for the single guy the root reasoning is it’s facility as a Buffer. I should also add that it’s this very facility that makes women hate it (when they do). Porn gives a guy his reward for free; a reward that should be her single best agency is rendered valueless when a man can get off to an infinite variety of sexual experience at the click of a mouse. It’s unlimited access to unlimited sexual availability without the stress of learning methods to earn it as a reward.

These are really just a few notable examples, but once you become aware of how buffers manifest you’ll begin to see how and why they are useful against rejection. Buffers are generally the paths of least rejection that become ego-invested “preferences.” Buffers aren’t so much about those “preference” as they are about the motivations behind them.

At this point you might be thinking, “well, what the hell, I don’t want to feel rejection, why not employ buffers against it?” The main reason for embracing rejection is that rejection is better than regret. Scan back through this short list of buffers; how many of these have become greater, longer term problems for you than a briefly painful rejection would’ve been? Buffers also have a tendency to compound upon themselves in that one tends to dovetail into another, or more, until you no longer realize that they were originally rejection prevention methodologies and gradually become associated with your genuine personality. After a long enough period, these buffer become “just how I am.”

Lastly, experience teaches harsh, but it teaches best. Rejection, real, raw, in your face rejection stings like a bytch. It must be something so intolerable that human beings will devise countless social and psychological constructs in order to avoid it. However, there is no better teacher than getting burned by the stove. As a Man, you are going to face rejection in far more facets of your life than just dealing with a woman. The buffers you learn in one aspect of your life will be just as encumbering when they’re transferred to another aspect of your life. All of these buffers listed, and many more, become indicators of how you confidently deal with adversity. Some make you look like a beta-herb p*ssy, others are subtle and nagging parts of an internalized personality, but dependence upon them incrementally reveals your real character to a woman. Are you Alpha enough to take a rejection on the chin, smile and confidently come back for more? Or will you run, will you block yourself, will you hide with convenient buffers?
 

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True Story: My neighbor's girlfriend wanted him to go to some birthday party and I'm guessing from the conversation he didn't want to go and gave no fukks about it. So from 10:00pm to 1:00am, I had to hear how this was her best friend's birthday and why was he not coming to the party. We have a security door you have to go through to get to our apartments and when they slam, they are loud as fukk. So the whole time during the argument, she was going in and out of his apartment, slamming the security door, his apartment door, calling him every name in the book, completely going off because this was her best friend's birthday party. Over and over again, this is MY BEST FRIENDS BIRTHDAY PARTY!! I never heard him raise his voice, I don't even know what he said, but I do know he didn't cave in and go to that party. The ONLY reason she stopped at 1:00am is because I had to call the police on that girl. shyt, I had to work the next day. By this time, I'm thinking the party has to be damn near over.

Apparently the cop slipped in the building and caught her off guard. Her ass calmed down but I heard her tell the officer he doesn't want to go to my best friend's birthday party. I heard the officer go, keep on and you will not be making an appearance also. So he escorted her of the property.

About 15 minutes later, you hear dude go....Stop calling my fukking phone. I ain't going no where. You know what....Biiiiiiiitch it is over. fukk you and your best friend.

I got confirmation later in the week they broke up. I told him I like how he stuck to his guns and didn't let her tantrum get to him.

the only time i appease to women is if im on vacation and im meeting/met a broad there

like when i went on vacation in june and met a chick, she was taking me everywhere. I didn't knwow the places to eat, or the cool places to go

she would ask me what do you want to do today? and i'd be like I don't know it's my first time here take me somewhere fun

but if its my damn city no one is telling me what to do or where to go
 

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the only time i appease to women is if im on vacation and im meeting/met a broad there

like when i went on vacation in june and met a chick, she was taking me everywhere. I didn't knwow the places to eat, or the cool places to go

she would ask me what do you want to do today? and i'd be like I don't know it's my first time here take me somewhere fun

but if its my damn city no one is telling me what to do or where to go


the only time i appease to women is if im on vacation and im meeting/met a broad there

like when i went on vacation in june and met a chick, she was taking me everywhere. I didn't knwow the places to eat, or the cool places to go

she would ask me what do you want to do today? and i'd be like I don't know it's my first time here take me somewhere fun

but if its my damn city no one is telling me what to do or where to go


No...I wouldn't call her a women. I wish folks would stop throwing that term around like everything that bleeds once a month is a women. I would call her a character. This was not the first time. I told old boy a while ago, she does it one more time, I'm calling the cops. You get three strikes with our complex and you get that good ten day notice of eviction.

I heard the cop say, sir you have one more strike and you are out of here. So that was also a motivator for him to break things off. One thing you will not do is put my lively hood, my finances, or my domicile in jeopardy.
 

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No...I wouldn't call her a women. I wish folks would stop throwing that term around like everything that bleeds once a month is a women. I would call her a character. This was not the first time. I told old boy a while ago, she does it one more time, I'm calling the cops. You get three strikes with our complex and you get that good ten day notice of eviction.

I heard the cop say, sir you have one more strike and you are out of here. So that was also a motivator for him to break things off. One thing you will not do is put my lively hood, my finances, or my domicile in jeopardy.

she is a woman

:manny:
 

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This pretty broad just responded to my message on Tinder :to: 1st message since June brehs, I hope she doesn't leave me hanging :sadcam:
 
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