I feel that man. They tough to find though. They have grown up in this era and their minds are warpedThrow her to the bushes. You want a interdependent chick. I don’t have time to be reverse engineering anything.
Whats your current situation like
I feel that man. They tough to find though. They have grown up in this era and their minds are warpedThrow her to the bushes. You want a interdependent chick. I don’t have time to be reverse engineering anything.
get them to invest in you/the relationshipSo what’s the solution to dealing with (Iontneednoman) women like this?
You make a good point. When you make them pay for shyt they get more invested. I usually do 50/50 because I don’t want them saying nothing bout spending money on me.get them to invest in you/the relationship
if a woman doesnt need you then get her to put into the relationship the very things that cause her to say she doesnt need a man. The more she has invested time, money, emotion, energy etc. into the relationship, the more leverage she will lose in your favor giving you the upper hand.
Make them pay for shyt. Make them inconvenience themselves for you. fukk them good. Etc. etc. It has to get to a point where they feel they have more to lose from breaking up with you than going on without you. Thats how I see it at least

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nikka got a "independent" woman and uttered the word "Submit"I got an independent chick too. How do you go about making them trust and just submit.
My chick so damn combative if I asked her to duck she would ask why and get shot type shyt.

breh dont even start. disappointed in youMaaaan it seems like most you man in here don't even like women for real![]()
yea I fukked up. had a similar situation pop up with this other chick who isn't as bad but I wasn't as thirsty she hit me back a week later and we going out this week. you really just have to not care and keep building rotation until one of them proves themselves.
Great perspective breh, appreciate you sharing this advice. I need to have better patience too. She annoys me too much and I just walk away from her or break up with her for a few days which is no good. It's getting so bad she doesn't feel no sense of security with me and feels bad about it.Hang in there breh. I still go through the exact same shyt sometimes.
I dont know if theres a right answer because even when the trust is earned and given, they may revert back to their bullshyt every now and then and then you have to use logic to remind them why trusting you is imperative. Its only so many times they can come crawling back to you on some "youre right" shyt before they realize they are better off just listening.
I just lead by example the best I can.
If I say I am going to do something I do it.
If I fukk up, I admit it and apologize.
Some of my deepest / darkest issues or secrets, I have told her throughout our friendship.
I make her feel heard when she expresses her own issues.
I dont act hypocritically
I break situations down logically (doesnt always work) and spell it out for her lol
Then In the moments where she's being combative i put my foot down and tell her to do what I said (after which she always comes back and says "you were right"). Sometimes I get frustrated to the point where I disrupt the trust though. It's tough man. Some of these women, especially black women are very fragile/difficult when it comes to this shyt. And the way I am, if a girl is spewing something that is false, idiotic, nonsensical, or passive aggressive it can cause me to be very snide/snippy. That's one thing i have had to get better at, is being more patient in the face of her bullshyt at times.
shyt it's like you're me from a parallel universe or something breh. Same with me, me and my girl argued damn near every week last year mostly about foolishness. We even broke up a lot cause I would get fed up and end things but we always came back together cause she would reach out or I would give in and have the conversation needed to fix things.Lol i feel you. Im not gonna lie mannnn there were some times I considered breaking up with her. Every other week we were arguing about some dumb shyt
If she didnt move here from France and it was more of a normal circumstance I wouldve. But the circumstances have forced us to figure things out and its paying dividends. Time will tell how the next six months goes.
So far I feel like the hard part is done with though.
I have dated and messed with enough womEn to know that most of them have these same issues (not thinking logically) if not worse ones. Would rather invest in bringing this one along then just moving on to another with the same if not worse bs.
nikka got a "independent" woman and uttered the word "Submit"
why do you nikkas hate yourselves?
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Lol It's not that simple, as annoying as it is dealing with her I know there is trash out there even worse than her. She's a good woman who has her mom and dad in her life but she is an only child which is where I think she gets the independence from. She is intelligent, not a bum, takes care of herself, loyal, barley goes out, is feminine and has many good qualities.Throw her to the bushes. You want an interdependent chick. I don’t have time to be reverse engineering anything.
Great perspective breh, appreciate you sharing this advice. I need to have better patience too. She annoys me too much and I just walk away from her or break up with her for a few days which is no good. It's getting so bad she doesn't feel no sense of security with me and feels bad about it.
shyt it's like you're me from a parallel universe or something breh. Same with me, me and my girl argued damn near every week last year mostly about foolishness. We even broke up a lot cause I would get fed up and end things but we always came back together cause she would reach out or I would give in and have the conversation needed to fix things.
Lol It's not that simple, as annoying as it is dealing with her I know there is trash out there even worse than her. She's a good woman who has her mom and dad in her life but she is an only child which is where I think she gets the independence from. She is intelligent, not a bum, takes care of herself, loyal, barley goes out, is feminine and has many good qualities.
Every woman is gonna have faults if you're seriously dating them you will see it overtime. None of them are logical whether independent or not.
breh dont even start. disappointed in you
No seriously though , reading through some of these post .It's evident
folks gave you game on how reckless/down bad you was moving and now since you didn’t receive it well.. all of a sudden they don’t like womenNo seriously though , reading through some of these post .It's evident

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