So Yall Really not gon get Married?

[Bless't]

I agree with some sentiments I've seen in here. I like the idea and concept of marriage, but whenever I get my head out of the clouds and back into reality it just isn't the right choice for me. I've seen too much personally to ever understand why I would put myself into that position like I've seen family and friends. These men are going through it and are miserable.

The benefits, I understand, IF I wanted children and a family or to "build," but we all know finding women of that caliber ain't happening realistically. I also do not want children (spare me that "legacy" bullshyt talk. That's just pure ego), so I just don't see the need. I went to college and birds were there, birds are around post-college, so the "higher education" part means nothing to me. I personally knew an engineer who still went on dates after work just so men would feed her, and she wouldn't have to save money. Literally told me out of her mouth she leads men on just to buy her things, so she could save money for her own needs.

The whole "industry" part of marriage and divorce is self-explanatory.

I also am shameless and guiltless, which counters the only strategies I ever hear from other people when attempting to force a decision for you.

"You gonna end up old and lonely" !!!!

Says who? Contrary to popular belief (particularly in our community) some people genuinely prefer to just be alone. I do not intend to be old and trying to chase p*ssy, as there are other merits to living beyond trying to hump everything in sight. Second, not everyone feels these harsh effects of "loneliness." I understand humans are social, and some people truly "need" compassion from others, even I to a degree but if you're going to sign up for that bad deal just to not sleep alone? Why would I take advice or suggestion from weak-minded individuals who seek commitment out of fear?

Lastly, most men and women out here are not really worth their weight in terms of even being "marriage material." Most parties in relationships lack any communication, self-control, or discipline but want to legally commit to a life together? Then try to shame other people into making the same poor decisions they did, just to have someone to complain to all day. "The wife, amIright?"

 

[who_better_than_me]

I mean if someone wanna walk out they’re gonna do it regardless. I agree regarding learning more about marriage, what it is / entails also. What I do know is that the ramifications of a broken marital agreement is much more harsh on men than the other way around.

why do you want to marry personally? would you be upset if you were unofficially married (ex. under god/ taking the govt out of it)? would you look at your partner differently if you never got married?

also, for your last point do those educated people actually have good, successful marriages or is it more that they don’t wanna break up for monetary issues?

Not harsher on the man, harsher on the breadwinner

 

[Wildhundreds]

I ain't gonna hold you but this, this right here is extremely feminine jumping to a conclusion, and putting words in my mouth. I spoke on my position and observation people are going to do what they want regardless of what I have to say about it, I simply stating that I don't support it. I will do me regardless of what broads do. At this point the name of the game for me as a black man is self preservation.

SYSBM

You ahead of the game if this what you on.. And a woman will either fall in line with your program, or they'll fall by the wayside.. Its up to you to see if they fit the mold.. Women aren't complicated at all once you know what you're capable of..

 

[Ezekiel 25:17]

Got it...

I've known plenty of dudes who's divorced and they're doing good..

I'd be fine myself if I got a divorce today..
I guess if your financial situation is fragile, then a divorce will destroy you.. And like another poster here said, if you think divorce will fck you up, you better not have a kid..

There's dudes who do good and dudes who do bad. Hell, even the divorce process by itself sounds tedious. And it's not as simple as don't have kids.


I said it before, I'll get married if the government stays out of it. It's funny how y'all are so quick to call folks incels but nobody talks about the scheming women who divorce to get that money. Social media is why as a black man I move like I'll be blamed for everything in life, when you move like that you can't lose

 

[Wildhundreds]

There's dudes who do good and dudes who do bad. Hell, even the divorce process by itself sounds tedious. And it's not as simple as don't have kids.


I said it before, I'll get married if the government stays out of it. It's funny how y'all are so quick to call folks incels but nobody talks about the scheming women who divorce to get that money. Social media is why as a black man I move like I'll be blamed for everything in life, when you move like that you can't lose

You mean you can't sit down with a woman, and discuss how to be together and build something, without the government being involved?

You do know you can create a legal document between the two of you.. And not give a fck about what anyone else says about it..

 

[sosayeth]

where's this "boredom" stat breh? And what age you're talking about here?

Also, I don't advice marriage before 30.. And if you really want it to last, 40..

So, basically, you don't know anything about the topic, you just came to talk about YOU found a good woman and how marriage is working out for YOU.

EDIT: Which is fine - I want black people to get married to each other. There's a global blueprint to self-sufficiency, independence and stability as a community and society and it's been that way for thousands of years. 80% single mothers and more than half of your the people in your community never settling down and fukking the whole city is not it. The thing you need to understand is that your mindset regarding marriage is the NORM among black men, but your wife's mindset is NOT the norm among black women.

 

[sfgiants]

Marriage sounds good in theory however nobody my age is happily married no matter how much they pretend they are
My friends can’t do a damn thing without their wife giving them permission. I just moved to a new apartment I was telling my boy there’s a bunch of cool spots to drink at and he was like damn I’m down and his wife gave him this look:

The only woman who has given me that look is my mom when I was still living at home. I can’t imagine a scenario where a woman who didn’t raise me is giving me the

my boy having a beer or 2 with his friends is such a negative thing, it’s like if I said “there’s all these strip clubs here come through”

And that extends to my co workers too.. completely controlled by their wives

couldn’t be me. As long as I’m getting my dikk worshipped by 20 somethings it’ll be hard to convince me that asking for permission to grab a beer with my friends is worth the trouble

 

[Ezekiel 25:17]

You mean you can't sit down with a woman, and discuss how to be together and build something, without the government being involved?

You do know you can create a legal document between the two of you.. And not give a fck about what anyone else says about it..

If you get married the government is involved regardless. You talking about a prenup? Yeah that can be thrown out.

I'm not bitter or mad about women or anything like that, I don't subscribe to Red Pill, GMB, or MGTOW. I just look at the reality of the situation

 

[Wildhundreds]

If you get married the government is involved regardless. You talking about a prenup? Yeah that can be thrown out.

I'm not bitter or mad about women or anything like that, I don't subscribe to Red Pill, GMB, or MGTOW. I just look at the reality of the situation

No breh.. I just looked this up..

"Unmarried couples who are living together have the option of creating a number of legal documents (often called “cohabitation agreements”) that can help protect their rights as a couple, while at the same time safeguarding their individual interests and assets."

You didn't know you can do this? The government is no where around..

 

[Wildhundreds]

So, basically, you don't know anything about the topic, you just came to talk about YOU found a good woman and how marriage is working out for YOU.

EDIT: Which is fine - I want black people to get married to each other. There's a global blueprint to self-sufficiency, independence and stability as a community and society and it's been that way for thousands of years. 80% single mothers and more than half of your the people in your community never settling down and fukking the whole city is not it. The thing you need to understand is that your mindset regarding marriage is the NORM among black men, but your wife's mindset is NOT the norm among black women.

Thats fcked up breh..

Being that I socialize a lot with both sexes, I ignore "stats" concerning things such as dating.. My generation didn't live/die by stats, so forgive my ignorance..

 

[RTF]

You mean you can't sit down with a woman, and discuss how to be together and build something, without the government being involved?

You do know you can create a legal document between the two of you.. And not give a fck about what anyone else says about it..

How has that worked out for you? And what do you want from a partner?

To the first bolded point, People should take responsibility, we're all equals right?
To the second bolded point, all of that is modern women, and most men's primary gripe with women. How can I trust you if you came into my life after I got it out the mud and built by my damn self. Women want finished products more than ever despite having work in progress int heir bios

Regardless you told on ya self as a guy in his mid 30s, so you're not really seeing what's going on with younger women now so I'll give your naïveté a pass.

Men and women are responsible for raising kids they make - yes. We are men, talking mostly around other men. I don't know why you're stuck on this point. Do you have a child outside of wedlock? Do you regularly date women with children outside of wedlock? If you do, that's a personal problem.

You're creating a false image of me because you can't handle the truth. I'm 30 years old, if I'm older than you within 10 years you might be able to learn something because we're playing the same game. It just looks like I'm winning and you're not.

What's men's problem with modern women? Most young men don't have any or much wealth so what is it that women are taking or wanting? There's nothing to take. Is it that they don't find you desirable? So you're dealing with baby mama's?

Focus on yourself. Women that want finished products but aren't finished products themselves, don't get the men they want. So what business is that to you? I'm damn near the finished product... so I can demand what I want in the dating market. Like what do you even want? Personally speaking, it's not a woman with lots of money for me. I offer decent age, good and growing resources, protection, social status, good health, looks and body (and subjective personal attributes). I acquired those things partly because I want women and that's what I have to offer. In exchange I want beauty, a big booty, a smart and empathetic woman to raise my children the right way, someone comfortable in my circles (educated, skilled), someone that can contribute something financially (not a lazy leech type that will sit at home while the kids are in high school) but I'm working hard so my eventual wife can focus on our children.

I'm not afraid of divorce for silly reasons like boredom. Because I'm THAT nikka. If she divorce me, who she going to get? A man on my level or better won't want to deal with MY kids. They could attract a younger woman with no kids by that point.

Most modern people suffer from unrealistic expectations. Too many people want people out of their leagues. You sound like a man who dates baby mama's worried about gold diggers with money you don't have.

I was 19, dating a 22-year-old woman who were stunning, big booty, college-educated, genuinely smart and grinding. All I had to offer was personality, ambition and a hard dikk. No car, barely any decent money, I was 155lb. Next breh she met, she married. She's somewhere holding that nikka down, looking sexy as hell. She was willing to ride with an unspectacular broke boy like me no problems.

How you a grown man can't find decent women to date? That's your bad. Either you ain't shyt or you in the wrong circles. My closest breh.. there are at least 4 good women that would marry that man if he asked them too. No kids, decent to great looking, decent careers. They still hit him up to this day.

Men complain all day about women. No. It's you. You're the problem. The women you want exist, they just don't want you. Likewise, women complaining about men. They just don't want those women. If you're in the dating market and can't find quality partners - it's you!

 

[Bossino]

How has that worked out for you? And what do you want from a partner?



Men and women are responsible for raising kids they make - yes. We are men, talking mostly around other men. I don't know why you're stuck on this point. Do you have a child outside of wedlock? Do you regularly date women with children outside of wedlock? If you do, that's a personal problem.

You're creating a false image of me because you can't handle the truth. I'm 30 years old, if I'm older than you within 10 years you might be able to learn something because we're playing the same game. It just looks like I'm winning and you're not.

What's men's problem with modern women? Most young men don't have any or much wealth so what is it that women are taking or wanting? There's nothing to take. Is it that they don't find you desirable? So you're dealing with baby mama's?

Focus on yourself. Women that want finished products but aren't finished products themselves, don't get the men they want. So what business is that to you? I'm damn near the finished product... so I can demand what I want in the dating market. Like what do you even want? Personally speaking, it's not a woman with lots of money for me. I offer decent age, good and growing resources, protection, social status, good health, looks and body (and subjective personal attributes). I acquired those things partly because I want women and that's what I have to offer. In exchange I want beauty, a big booty, a smart and empathetic woman to raise my children the right way, someone comfortable in my circles (educated, skilled), someone that can contribute something financially (not a lazy leech type that will sit at home while the kids are in high school) but I'm working hard so my eventual wife can focus on our children.

I'm not afraid of divorce for silly reasons like boredom. Because I'm THAT nikka. If she divorce me, who she going to get? A man on my level or better won't want to deal with MY kids. They could attract a younger woman with no kids by that point.

Most modern people suffer from unrealistic expectations. Too many people want people out of their leagues. You sound like a man who dates baby mama's worried about gold diggers with money you don't have.

I was 19, dating a 22-year-old woman who were stunning, big booty, college-educated, genuinely smart and grinding. All I had to offer was personality, ambition and a hard dikk. No car, barely any decent money, I was 155lb. Next breh she met, she married. She's somewhere holding that nikka down, looking sexy as hell. She was willing to ride with an unspectacular broke boy like me no problems.

How you a grown man can't find decent women to date? That's your bad. Either you ain't shyt or you in the wrong circles. My closest breh.. there are at least 4 good women that would marry that man if he asked them too. No kids, decent to great looking, decent careers. They still hit him up to this day.

Men complain all day about women. No. It's you. You're the problem. The women you want exist, they just don't want you. Likewise, women complaining about men. They just don't want those women. If you're in the dating market and can't find quality partners - it's you!

Your ilk is not one I deem worthy of having conversations with because your ilk got this whole thing figured out, so what can I offer the Oracle?

Is stopped counting the amount of assumptions you made at 3. Assumptions as mentioned earlier in this thread aka jumping to a conclusions is a feminine trait. I won't berate, critique or correct you because I'd be painting a picture for a blind man. Be blessed breh.

 

[Wildhundreds]

How has that worked out for you? And what do you want from a partner?

Im traditionally married.. Been so for a long time.. I brought that up because they're claiming they don't want the government involved, so i presented an option.. If you can't convince a woman to see certain things your way, then relationships aren't for that person period.

 

[RTF]

Your ilk is not one I deem worthy of having conversations with because your ilk got this whole thing figured out, so what can I offer the Oracle?

Is stopped counting the amount of assumptions you made at 3. Assumptions as mentioned earlier in this thread aka jumping to a conclusions is a feminine trait. I won't berate, critique or correct you because I'd be painting a picture for a blind man. Be blessed breh.

I've asked you questions grown man because I want to understand. What you're saying doesn't make sense to me but I hope your answers will help me understand. So again please answer the questions.

Do you have a child outside of wedlock? Do you regularly date women with children outside of wedlock? If not, why have you brought it up?

What's men's problem with modern women? This is a big one. I have my own ideas but I think men are guilty of it too.

What do you want from a woman/partner?

Are you able to date the women you would like to date?

No need for insults. Unless my assumptions are true, I haven't insulted you.

I think you have avoided my questions because there's truth in what I've said. So please.. help me understand the situation by answering the questions I have presented.

 

[RTF]

Im traditionally married.. Been so for a long time.. I brought that up because they're claiming they don't want the government involved, so i presented an option.. If you can't convince a woman to see certain things your way, then relationships aren't for that person period.

Fair do's brother. Apologies for approaching you with vim