Cortez is catching strays on forums now? Breh
Essential The Official Battle Rap Random Thoughts Thread (URL, KOTD, UW etc...)
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dennis roadman
nuclear war in my bag
bruh you're making the union's point again
the idea of organized labor is that contribution comes from a bloc, not individuals. bench players go on the same strike as lebron, because they have agreed to a common front that will theoretically force owners to make sure everyone in their bloc benefits, or nobody, including and especially owners (who do not have basketball/rap skills themselves to market and profit off of) benefits
getting paid different based on starpower is one thing, cor is never gonna demand 20k realistically, but setting a minimum standard for how ALL battlers are treated would give battlers leverage in negotiating their individual payouts, and would actually do some real good for the art form because you wouldn't have to run to Rope a Dope Battle League in Sandusky OH and recycle bars and choke just to keep toothpaste in your house. the quality rises along with the financial situations of the artists
Ignore battlers and other media platforms exposing Saint Blac, brehs.
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You win Diz.
He is/was a cross dressing weirdo. But his inside info is legit and hit live shows move the culture whether we want to admit it or not.
Hey, if you can tolerate the fukkery, do you breh
And another thing that's funny is all of a sudden all these battlers have business degrees
As someone who actually has a business degree, I know for a fact they won't win. The cat's out of the bag. URL is too big. In theory Smack has all the infinity stones already. He has all the content, subscribers, fans, media platforms (my dislike for them aside) the old battles, unreleased battles, and a whole WGH/Gates of the Garden etc. farm system of guys he can literally plug right in where Top and Brizz and them step out.
Cortez and Swave really got some nerve to talk about they are generating millions. That is where I do agree with JayBlac. If they did a Swave vs. Cortez $20 stream it wouldn't even generate $10,000. And they know it. These guys can't even press up 100 CDs/shirts and get them all off at an event. I've seen them try in person.
That just makes the fact that Hollywood Hitman is the one leading this HILARIOUS
Hitman can go up there and choke all three rounds and still get 4.5 million views, a crazy purse, book 3-4 parties the same week and knock out a few thousand dollar features. The same week as the event! That's why Surf doesn't give a fukk because he's one of the few who is a platform in his own right like Holla.
These other guys don't have brands like that. Hollow pushes LOM for a reason. Ars has his Ars brand AND UW to eat off without Smack views. Cortez and Swave wouldn't have a chance in hell of getting $10-20k off an event unless it's Smack affiliated. Cortez has a chance if he starts a Spanish league and all his battlers rap in Spanish but even then it only has a slim chance of being as big as say Born Legacy Series.
The strike won't and can't work. They can make another Top. They can make another Brizz. They can make any vet into what Suge is for them. They need Roc/Holla/Surf but they only need them once a year.
As someone who actually has a business degree, I know for a fact they won't win. The cat's out of the bag. URL is too big. In theory Smack has all the infinity stones already. He has all the content, subscribers, fans, media platforms (my dislike for them aside) the old battles, unreleased battles, and a whole WGH/Gates of the Garden etc. farm system of guys he can literally plug right in where Top and Brizz and them step out.
Cortez and Swave really got some nerve to talk about they are generating millions. That is where I do agree with JayBlac. If they did a Swave vs. Cortez $20 stream it wouldn't even generate $10,000. And they know it. These guys can't even press up 100 CDs/shirts and get them all off at an event. I've seen them try in person.
That just makes the fact that Hollywood Hitman is the one leading this HILARIOUS
Hitman can go up there and choke all three rounds and still get 4.5 million views, a crazy purse, book 3-4 parties the same week and knock out a few thousand dollar features. The same week as the event! That's why Surf doesn't give a fukk because he's one of the few who is a platform in his own right like Holla.
These other guys don't have brands like that. Hollow pushes LOM for a reason. Ars has his Ars brand AND UW to eat off without Smack views. Cortez and Swave wouldn't have a chance in hell of getting $10-20k off an event unless it's Smack affiliated. Cortez has a chance if he starts a Spanish league and all his battlers rap in Spanish but even then it only has a slim chance of being as big as say Born Legacy Series.
The strike won't and can't work. They can make another Top. They can make another Brizz. They can make any vet into what Suge is for them. They need Roc/Holla/Surf but they only need them once a year.
T-K-G
Veteran
Agreed
These nikkas been juelzing about everything else under the sun except them under performing
T-K-G
Veteran
dennis roadman
nuclear war in my bag
Me too, so in business and labor, when both sides have a viable argument, it becomes a question of ethics. Smack is a whale, he innovated if not created the industry and has done more for the art directly or otherwise than anyone on the planet. I love what he’s done and hope he’s infinitely successfulI said I was on the fence
I see both sides of it.
But ultimately he controls the means of production without having any of the talent to actually produce. He has a very necessary role in this, but he needs to start spreading that wealth before some savvy organizer happens to be a battle rap fan like most in here, following news and blogs and whatnot, and makes him pay out the nose or cuts off his source of content
cornercommission2k12
so this were u dudes went
you dont get paid what you deserve, and you dont get paid what you want, you get paid what you negotiate.
you are telling a bunch of guys who have no idea how to create the kind of platform smack has, to start their own thing, oh it cant be that hard etc.
and sure they might pull off 1 successful event, maybe even 2, but sustaining the success and showing consistency is where those who dont know the business will always fail
another thing is, hitman is in a place to make certain demands, most these guys with url now is not. this is like guys in the 90s trying to get what jordan got when he got 30 mill a year in 97 and 98. jordan can negotiate that, most those other guys in the nba in the 90s cant, because its 1 jordan, those other guys can be names forgotten quickly.
which is what t top, suge, brizz, etc dont seem to understand. and lets be real here, they have talent, but a lot of their hype is actually due to the smack url machine. if they jump ship, head over to rbe, kotd, etc their mystique and hype will begin to dwindle pretty quickly. so if im them, i would walk a fine line here.
im not saying smack shouldnt renegotiate what he pays guys, but it takes a lot to run that kind of production and battle rappers are not in on that side of it. all they have to do is show up and rap. it takes a lot to add ppv, booking a good venue, proper camera work, audio, security, flying guys in from all over the country, booking decent 4 star hotels, and then having to pay investors, partners etc when the event is done, setting up sponsors etc. smack has done a lot for these dudes, not saying he should be paying them pennies, but at the same time when hitman talks about ppv, then talks about smack dropping battles in 5 weeks, he clearly fully doesnt understand the business. how you going to get people to purchase the ppv if the battle is dropping in 3 weeks anyway? what does that do to the people spending 40 bucks on the ppv then in a month everyone else gets to see it for free? cmon hitman.
you are telling a bunch of guys who have no idea how to create the kind of platform smack has, to start their own thing, oh it cant be that hard etc.
and sure they might pull off 1 successful event, maybe even 2, but sustaining the success and showing consistency is where those who dont know the business will always fail
another thing is, hitman is in a place to make certain demands, most these guys with url now is not. this is like guys in the 90s trying to get what jordan got when he got 30 mill a year in 97 and 98. jordan can negotiate that, most those other guys in the nba in the 90s cant, because its 1 jordan, those other guys can be names forgotten quickly.
which is what t top, suge, brizz, etc dont seem to understand. and lets be real here, they have talent, but a lot of their hype is actually due to the smack url machine. if they jump ship, head over to rbe, kotd, etc their mystique and hype will begin to dwindle pretty quickly. so if im them, i would walk a fine line here.
im not saying smack shouldnt renegotiate what he pays guys, but it takes a lot to run that kind of production and battle rappers are not in on that side of it. all they have to do is show up and rap. it takes a lot to add ppv, booking a good venue, proper camera work, audio, security, flying guys in from all over the country, booking decent 4 star hotels, and then having to pay investors, partners etc when the event is done, setting up sponsors etc. smack has done a lot for these dudes, not saying he should be paying them pennies, but at the same time when hitman talks about ppv, then talks about smack dropping battles in 5 weeks, he clearly fully doesnt understand the business. how you going to get people to purchase the ppv if the battle is dropping in 3 weeks anyway? what does that do to the people spending 40 bucks on the ppv then in a month everyone else gets to see it for free? cmon hitman.
fukk Geechi/Tech, Geechi/JC gotta drop first lol
Realeast shyt you ever said.And another thing that's funny is all of a sudden all these battlers have business degrees
As someone who actually has a business degree, I know for a fact they won't win. The cat's out of the bag. URL is too big. In theory Smack has all the infinity stones already. He has all the content, subscribers, fans, media platforms (my dislike for them aside) the old battles, unreleased battles, and a whole WGH/Gates of the Garden etc. farm system of guys he can literally plug right in where Top and Brizz and them step out.
Cortez and Swave really got some nerve to talk about they are generating millions. That is where I do agree with JayBlac. If they did a Swave vs. Cortez $20 stream it wouldn't even generate $10,000. And they know it. These guys can't even press up 100 CDs/shirts and get them all off at an event. I've seen them try in person.
That just makes the fact that Hollywood Hitman is the one leading this HILARIOUS
Hitman can go up there and choke all three rounds and still get 4.5 million views, a crazy purse, book 3-4 parties the same week and knock out a few thousand dollar features. The same week as the event! That's why Surf doesn't give a fukk because he's one of the few who is a platform in his own right like Holla.
These other guys don't have brands like that. Hollow pushes LOM for a reason. Ars has his Ars brand AND UW to eat off without Smack views. Cortez and Swave wouldn't have a chance in hell of getting $10-20k off an event unless it's Smack affiliated. Cortez has a chance if he starts a Spanish league and all his battlers rap in Spanish but even then it only has a slim chance of being as big as say Born Legacy Series.
The strike won't and can't work. They can make another Top. They can make another Brizz. They can make any vet into what Suge is for them. They need Roc/Holla/Surf but they only need them once a year.
I knew you had some damn sense in there somewhere breh.
dennis roadman
nuclear war in my bag
What I find crazy about all this hitman talk is how even in battle rap the majority of fans will side with the brand over the guys that actually entertain them
It’s like a capitalist impulse we’ve all been bred to act on, amazing
It’s like a capitalist impulse we’ve all been bred to act on, amazing