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nikka thru out my years of listening to hip hop I've had a million conversations about who people feel is the nicest or the dopest rapper. Dating all the way back to elementary school so stop wit this only "purist" care bullshyt. Its one of the reasons alotta nikkas started writing bars in the first place. YOU don't care. And that's fine. But just cause u subscribe to this new way of thinking when it comes to hip hop don't mean u can dismiss all the people that dont.That's fine but who keeps a running checklist of the best,goat,etc other than purist.
I have never thought for second to rank the greatest rappers of all time or any of that.
I can give you who I listen to the most and that would look different every year, 5 years, etc
That's the crazy shyt. I know this shyt got nikkas who actually got skills and practice to hone they craft feeling crazy. On some "what's the point" shyt.lol local nikkas that can rap their ass off must look at the game in a dirty way now, rappers just get bars written for them then say they one of the best you dont even know how much of the rap they wrote.
apart from honourable people making good shyt who I will always fux with, lol @ rap nikkas
That's the crazy shyt. I know this shyt got nikkas who actually got skills and practice to hone they craft feeling crazy. On some "what's the point" shyt.
who gives a shyt? only in hip hop do people make such a big deal about having other songwriters.
in every other genre, this would be looked at like![]()
This is finenikka thru out my years of listening to hip hop I've had a million conversations about who people feel is the nicest or the dopest rapper. Dating all the way back to elementary school so stop wit this only "purist" care bullshyt. Its one of the reasons alotta nikkas started writing bars in the first place. YOU don't care. And that's fine. But just cause u subscribe to this new way of thinking when it comes to hip hop don't mean u can dismiss all the people that dont.
because lyricism is the biggest thing for hip hop.
If you're a behind the scenes cat that makes money by participating in writing pools you love an artist like this, especially if they are on a deadline but are having writers block/lack of creativity. You take on their persona and write something as though they would, I can see how Twista says that shyt would be fun, fortunately he waited until after his run to participate in the pools. The Coach Carter song, the So Sexy track with Kelz and a few others I know were written, but those were money grabs. Obviously he had help on Slow Jamz, but that was moreso for all of the R&B references that were made in the song, thats typical during the creative process. Not sure what the other songs are but I know of a couple cats that made a grip in the early 2000's writing "Twista styled" rhyme's for other artists that were relatively successful, I'm sure Twista felt a kinda way about that.
rap is music and thats how music is. a genre that was born and sustained from rocking over already made records. if you want it to be such a technical science so bad with all these laws, then technically the whole genre is fake and based on biting.I disagree hip hop is/was/ should be differen't then a pop, r&b, or rock artist who can just hire someone to construct a whole song for them, and all they have to do is perform it.
That why I respect hip hop artist more than any other genre. Of course if you Justin Beiber, Katy Perry, ect you can make hits after hits if other people are building your songs and writing your lyrics. But, in hip hop its the artist who has to do alot of that work.
And to me taking ghostwritten songs as your own is a form of biting, that's why traditionally true hiphop artists(not the diddy's,dre's,ect) haven't use them. But that's my opinion.
Nickelus F. did an interview for Complex where he admitted he wrote on "Room For Improvement", which came out in '06.
They asked him to go into detail about what he wrote and he said he couldn't. He admitted he wrote at least one verse on "So Far Gone", '09.
He said he was not credited for it.
Nobody really paid attention to that, or random people on Twitter claiming QM, Hush, etc. was writing for Drake. Kia Shine claimed he wrote "Best I Ever Had", etc.
@SunZoo had a bunch of Tweets from back in the day, long before the Meek thing. This was '08-10, around there.
Fast forward to 2015, and Meek/QM happens.
So I'mat people talking about "well, why take Twista's word for it, that he didn't have help early in his career". Gee....I dunno, because we don't have proof and a time line, like with Drake?
Fred.
So because Twista is a solidified artist and has been in the game for more than a decade, it's ok for him to use ghostwriters? Artists like Jay-z and Nas have been rapping for 20 plus years and they have never used them (although there have been accusations). So what's Twista's excuse? If you're going to condemn one person for using a ghostwriter then you need to condemn every rap artist for using one no matter how many years they been rapping or what they have contributed to rap.