Twista admits to using a Ghostwriter

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No, you want it to everybody cause you bought into the fraud wack sucka emcee based rapper and it has been obvious since you started listening to rap.
All because you never dug in the crate and you don't really care about hip hop.
You like a few rappers, cool.
You, don't like hip hop as a culture.
You, can admit that.
You, don't have to like the culture.
You, have to respect it, tho.



Art Barr

How future exclusively talked about diggin in the crate and its importance.
Yet, you downplay that ability for real in your own actions and the person you like went public on its importance.



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Your right,I love hiphop so I reject that:sas1:

The day you realize you and your bboys don't have the ability or power to define the culture,and run the opinions of other nikkas you'll realize this.

And I only like a few rappers now:comeon:?I can almost guarantee if we asked people to name rappers I like and have tried to put them up on and what I love about hiphop,i think my list would be longer,on the other hand they could name more rappers that you hate and what you hate about the culture.

My love for the culture is the necessary balance to even out your hate:banderas:

Lets agree I've taught you alotta things and tried to give you courage to think outside the box,and i think you might've taught me a few tid bits:jbhmm:
 

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Your right,I love hiphop so I reject that:sas1:

The day you realize you and your bboys don't have the ability or power to define the culture,and run the opinions of other nikkas you'll realize this.

And I only like a few rappers now:comeon:?I can almost guarantee if we asked people to name rappers I like and have tried to put them up on and what I love about hiphop,i think my list would be longer,on the other hand they could name more rappers that you hate and what you hate about the culture.

My love for the culture is the necessary balance to even out your hate:banderas:

Lets agree I've taught you alotta things and tried to give you courage to think outside the box,and i think you might've taught me a few tid bits:jbhmm:


How when every popular consensus rapper I wrote reviews on and was the first on the net to prop and extensively say why.

That goes for twenty years, breh.

From Eminem all the way to Gucci, to, jeezy and little Wayne and everyone in between.

You a noob in this community, breh.
You not even a part of hip hop as a culture and a fan.
I wrote the people you like into prominence and it is while artist movements in here all because I created the space for people to talk about them.

So, what are you saying.
You are saying you cognitively are talking about periods, time and an essence in which you don't know.

PROJECT PAT : A real nikka don't speak if he Don't know
Real talk is you don't know and anyone in rh know about you knows that.
You not fooling nobody.
You are a plies fan further than goons out here lurking.
When I posted on that record before you.
Plus, exposed how he did not rhyme well enough to hold anyone's attention past that.
You got offended all the way back then and it is still funny to me.
That you are an overemotional obsessed plies Stan and toy.
trying to fool people and you not fooling nobody real about none of this shyt.

I never picke up nuffin from you, breh.
You just so close minded about this,..you do what most do.
Front on the real,....



Art Barr


I am the truth there, staring back at you
Oh and you still soft as fukk, too and you know it.

You still got emotion about the truth about plies and he was exposed a decade ago, damn near as a fraud.
Then, numerous times exposed after that as well.
Yet, you still going emotionally hard for a guy who supposed to not be soft. Yet, everything you speak about is soft as hell, tho.
 

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How when every popular consensus rapper I wrote reviews on and was the first on the net to prop and extensively say why.

That goes for twenty years, breh.

From Eminem all the way to Gucci, to, jeezy and little Wayne and everyone in between.

You a noob in this community, breh.
You not even a part of hip hop as a culture and a fan.
I wrote the people you like into prominence and it is while artist movements in here all because I created the space for people to talk about them.

So, what are you saying.
You are saying you cognitively are talking about periods, time and an essence in which you don't know.

PROJECT PAT : A real nikka don't speak if he Don't know
Real talk is you don't know and anyone in rh know about you knows that.
You not fooling nobody.
You are a plies fan further than goons out here lurking.
When I posted on that record before you.
Plus, exposed how he did not rhyme well enough to hold anyone's attention past that.
You got offended all the way back then and it is still funny to me.
That you are an overemotional obsessed plies Stan and toy.
trying to fool people and you not fooling nobody real about none of this shyt.

I never picke up nuffin from you, breh.
You just so close minded about this,..you do what most do.
Front on the real,....



Art Barr


I am the truth there, staring back at you
Oh and you still soft as fukk, too and you know it.

You still got emotion about the truth about plies and he was exposed a decade ago, damn near as a fraud.
Then, numerous times exposed after that as well.
Yet, you still going emotionally hard for a guy who supposed to not be soft. Yet, everything you speak about is soft as hell, tho.

More bold statements that don't hold truth,you definitely wasn't on Plies before me,and goons out lurkin is nowhere near plies best record,glad u liked it and posted on it though:sas1:

Im definitely not mad at you or anybody elses opinion from nearly a decade ago,you still seem hot though?The fact that so many people came around to my way on shyt I was saying that maybe they didnt like at first,on some hindsight shyt,just lets me know I'm ahead of nikkas with this shyt Art.

First time my realness is coming into question:jbhmm:,i would be upset if this was the first time you've come across as delusional...Who hurt who here?you sound like the bytch.

Far as the other shyt,you dont want problems pops


,I'll have ya old weathered face azz touchin everything wherever we at playboy.:mjlol:

Do I need to give thecoli another Plies history lesson?do nikkas not remember the classics?

Twist been on some struggle mode shyt for the last ten years tho. As great as he is, if you listen to his output after Adrenaline Rush you can tell it's mostly pandering to whatever style is hot at the moment, in an attempt to remain relevant and ride the youth wave. He still doper than your favorite rapper but he's an opportunist and definitely not a leader when it comes to the culture. :jbhmm:

At any rate free Meek :dame:

This past decade for Twista has been embarrassing,this might be the nail in the coffin:mjcry:
 

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More bold statements that don't hold truth,you definitely wasn't on Plies before me,and goons out lurkin is nowhere near plies best record,glad u liked it and posted on it though:sas1:

Im definitely not mad at you or anybody elses opinion from nearly a decade ago,you still seem hot though?The fact that so many people came around to my way on shyt I was saying that maybe they didnt like at first,on some hindsight shyt,just lets me know I'm ahead of nikkas with this shyt Art.

First time my realness is coming into question:jbhmm:,i would be upset if this was the first time you've come across as delusional...Who hurt who here?you sound like the bytch.

Far as the other shyt,you dont want problems pops


,I'll have ya old weathered face azz touchin everything wherever we at playboy.:mjlol:

Do I need to give thecoli another Plies history lesson?do nikkas not remember the classics?



This past decade for Twista has been embarrassing,this might be the nail in the coffin:mjcry:


Please make your plies history lesson thread,....
I wanna revisit you getting lol off the forum again like back then.


Art Barr
 

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Man this shyt was happening right under our noses

Twista Wants To Use A Ghostwriter


The main thing I take from this article is that I think Twista has came to the realization that he has maxed out what he can do individually and would like to get some help. However, I do feel there are other ways to go about it then getting another nygga to write your shyt.

Meet different emcees, exchanged ideas., read books, etc However, if he wants to get songwriters he can. I have never been naive to how this business works.
 

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yea i remember black wallstreet basically being a team of ghostwriters.

i remember when the beef with young gunz was brewing, and they were on power 99 with pooda brown while they played the game/cysserro diss track. cyssero clearly wrote game's verse.

then pooda yelled out "he didnt write that".:laugh:

more & more chit came out afterwards.


Like i said 2016 - exposing industry plant

2015 been lit with ghostwrite exposures.


i dont know man.

meek is pretty much the only mainstream rapper with any type of gump. and these rappers see how dirty they did him.

aint nobody gonna say nothing breh.
 

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Drake made it cool for nikkas to have "ghostwriters". Before unless you were Puffy,Dre, Eazy e,etc had ghost writers and we accepted it because they admitted that they weren't really emcees, but now everyone suddenly coming out of the woodwork proclaiming to have had help writing and actually defending nikkas having full verses written out for them. Why hasn't one major rapper from the past or present just flat out say naw that shyt is forbidden in Hip Hop.

No one has come out and said it was forbidden, because passes have ALWAYS been given for one reason or another. If you're making it okay for the Puffys, Dre's, and Eazy E's, it was naive and stupid to think no one was going to capitalize and just have writers regardless. Drake didn't make it cool for having writers. "I don't write rhymes, I write checks" made it cool before anyone ever heard of a Drake.

Another reason why major artists don't say it's forbidden because they've gotten checks for writing for somebody else. You can't condemn something you've co-signed or contributed to without looking like a hypocrite.
 

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Vocal talent is HUGE in hip hop. It plus rhythm is called "flow". The most defining attribute of a rapper :dahell:

That's another thing people aren't getting. Writing rhymes isn't the end-all/be all of rapping. Anybody that knows anything about rap knows that lyrics are only one aspect of it. Even if you hire Nas to write you a verse, but you have a weak/garbage flow, weak garbage delivery, little confidence, and don't really stand out, it's not going to do much. Performance is a huge part of being an MC.

Not writing means you can't be considered a lyricist because it's 100% based on the words.
 

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yea i remember black wallstreet basically being a team of ghostwriters.

i remember when the beef with young gunz was brewing, and they were on power 99 with pooda brown while they played the game/cysserro diss track. cyssero clearly wrote game's verse.

then pooda yelled out "he didnt write that".:laugh:

more & more chit came out afterwards.





i dont know man.

meek is pretty much the only mainstream rapper with any type of gump. and these rappers see how dirty they did him.

aint nobody gonna say nothing breh.
Word. I been saying the shyt about Game. Lol. I felt like I was the only one who remembered the BWS and Cyssero ghostwriting rumors. For everyone saying Game raps like anyone he gets on a track with. I always laughed and thought about the ghostwriting claims. And yea these rappers ain't tryna lose business. Some of these nikkas use em themselves and u got quite a few who actually ghostwrite for other people so they ain't tryna fukk up they money by flat out condemning it.
 

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That's another thing people aren't getting. Writing rhymes isn't the end-all/be all of rapping. Anybody that knows anything about rap knows that lyrics are only one aspect of it. Even if you hire Nas to write you a verse, but you have a weak/garbage flow, weak garbage delivery, little confidence, and don't really stand out, it's not going to do much. Performance is a huge part of being an MC.

Not writing means you can't be considered a lyricist because it's 100% based on the words.
Someone has to write the flow. So either way if someone else is writing for u they gave u the flow.
 

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Someone has to write the flow. So either way if someone else is writing for u they gave u the flow.

Not necessarily. There's songs that Dre has spit and you really couldn't tell who wrote it without looking at the credits. That's one of the complaints of Compton vs. 2001. Without even looking at the credits, it was obvious who wrote a lot of his verses on Compton because he adopted the flow and delivery of whoever wrote it. His other writers catered to Dre's style instead of just giving him verses.
 

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Not necessarily. There's songs that Dre has spit and you really couldn't tell who wrote it without looking at the credits. That's one of the complaints of Compton vs. 2001. Without even looking at the credits, it was obvious who wrote a lot of his verses on Compton because he adopted the flow and delivery of whoever wrote it. His other writers catered to Dre's style instead of just giving him verses.
U couldn't tell who wrote it cause the person who wrote it did it in a way u couldn't tell it was them. U still have to write the flow. I'm a rapper and been doing so since the 90s. I also have ghostwritten for people before. I know what I'm talkin bout bro. Lol
 

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U couldn't tell who wrote it cause the person who wrote it did it in a way u couldn't tell it was them. U still have to write the flow. I'm a rapper and been doing so since the 90s. I also have ghostwritten for people before. I know what I'm talkin bout bro. Lol

It depends on who you're writing for. There's some who will flow the exact way that it's written. There's some who will take what's written and find different ways of flowing it because they might hear something that the person who wrote it doesn't in regard to the beat.

I also rap
 
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