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USA TODAY: "Tech Jobs: minorities have degrees, but dont get hired"
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theworldismine13
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not waiting on white people for anything...
only pseudo-c00ns constantly accuse black people of Waiting for white people for things - it's one of the tactics.
and black people should first be black nationalistic in their mindset, imo. without that, eventually, all that you build is diluted and filtered out.
people are in here writing essays on how black people cant get ahead until white people stop being racist, im not making anything up
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This is my personal experience. There are three explanations.
1. White people have better connections. It's easy to get a job when your dad is golf buddies with the tech company manager and he can pull some strings for "Sally" so she can get into a really nice internship. In college, almost all of my white classmates came from professional/prominent families.(Parents were engineers, doctors, dentist, BSN nurses, computer scientist, military officers, hospital administrators, successful business folk, scientist, bankers, top performing HS teachers in difficult subjects, etc) A lot of their extended families were middle class professionals as well and it wasn't unusual to have a brother or an uncle who was a doctor. It's easy to go through Physics II like it's cake when mom is able to funnel your private tutor 10 dollars an hour for private sessions or get really strong math skills because your mom is the AP calculus teacher at the local HS. When you grow up in the best schools in the state, it's very hard NOT to do well in school. A lot of the nice high paying jobs are gained through CONNECTIONS and NETWORKING, not by slamming out a bunch of random resumes to random people. This puts white people at an advantage because they will be connected to these "in crowd" people need to fill positions. Black people typically don't hang out with these people.
2. The persistent belief that "black people aren't intelligent enough/passionate enough to do the work so why invest in them?" I'm a bit nerdy but one of the down sides about STEM is that it is filled with nerds and nerds can be some of the most racist/insecure/sexist people on the planet. It didn't help growing up when I told some of my white teachers I wanted to be a scientist and they were like. I got lucky I had more progressive minded teachers that didn't think black people were too stupid to be high achievers that really motivated me to dream big, work hard and think differently. Then some white professionals are very intimidated by black culture and feel best to hire mostly white people since they fit into "company culture".
3. There is a lack of black HIGHLY successful entrepreneurs outside of music/sports. Yeah there are black people that do marginally well outside of those two industries but there is a strong lack of household name level successful black people in the STEM industry. You have Mark Zuckerberg, Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, etc and almost all of the top lauded people are white males. They typically are going to associate with white males in their inner circle and the people they mentor will often be white males. There are few black zuckerbergs, steve jobs, etc that are more likely going to mentor black youth to have the skills necessary to compete. This poses a huge problem for the "achievement gap".
That's generally now why I don't support black self segregation. You definitely need to be conscious as a black person of how your race is perceived in the work but self segregating yourself is only going to make things worse. This is why I am so hard on black militants on the Coli. Just because you're not a militant doesn't mean that you are a c00n but hating white people is not a great strategy for long term success. There were a lot of jobs, opportunities and skills I learned BECAUSE I regularly kick rocks with white boys.(along with black folks, asians, indians, hispanics as well too) It's important for black people to have their own strong community but not at the expense of self-segregating yourself.
Dude, your post was excellent and on point until the very last paragraph. Blacks dont have those networks because BLACKS have very little institutions that they manage and control. Simple as that. The only way we can grow those networks is to create institutions and business RUN by black people. Only then will our children begin to enjoy the advantages white children currently enjoy. This will occur quicker with segregation breh, believe it or not. What prevented segregated communities in the past from being successful was terror violence from the white communities.
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well... i do agree that you can't ask people to go against their nature.
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Comes down to networking and internships. Black people are less likely to pursue and attain internships, and it's hard to network when you don't know anyone in the industry. This goes back to school opportunities. Many high schools have tech programs that allow kids to connect with businesses in the area...you won't find many in inner cities though.
I always tell my younger family members college is about more than learning. You have to put yourself out there: join the clubs, and not just the black ones. Most colleges have IT clubs of some type, and businesses recruit them. Same applies to all majors.
I always tell my younger family members college is about more than learning. You have to put yourself out there: join the clubs, and not just the black ones. Most colleges have IT clubs of some type, and businesses recruit them. Same applies to all majors.
theworldismine13
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This has to happen EN MASSE.
Look at the graduation stats for any engineering school of your choice. Most of them can be found via google.
Even Most minorities that go into engineering focus on on things like general mechanical or industrial engineering. Few of them go into other fields.
You need more black candidates in the first place. I'm not denying racism taking root, but to say theres TONS of candidates isn't exactly true either.
Look at the graduation stats for any engineering school of your choice. Most of them can be found via google.
Even Most minorities that go into engineering focus on on things like general mechanical or industrial engineering. Few of them go into other fields.
You need more black candidates in the first place. I'm not denying racism taking root, but to say theres TONS of candidates isn't exactly true either.
the most money i heard of was a black lady in the dmv...
for the most part.. black women are killing black men in this (and everything else, lol)
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People like @brokewave said I was crazy for claiming that Black female contractors have been eating. As if I don't know what I'm talking about… ha!
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you breh
Well I apologize for misleading you so I'll rephrase what I said.
I didn't say blacks can't get ahead until whites stop being racist. I said since whites are racist, let's own our businesses so we can employ ourselves. That way we won't have to deal with any racism when trying to get hired..
theworldismine13
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http://www.thecoli.com/threads/web-era-trade-schools-feeding-a-need-for-code.258450/
this is pretty much what the pipeline looks like
this is pretty much what the pipeline looks like
I mean I still fukk with basketball toothis.
I still root for my BEARS though
But as long as you understand the bigger picture too, you'll be fine.
I just couldn't watch football again after, watching this documentary. It really fukked with me.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/league-of-denial/
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well actually some do, they just arent very successful at it. I've read up on cats opening up car washes, bbq joints and even a mall that eventually flopped.
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just your usual nerdy brotha
Reading stories about how much money they blow I cant say Im not surprised.
If we had more business minded brothers then Im sure it would of became cultural and they would of fared much better
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