Religion/Spirituality Vegetarianism, Veganism, and just reducing your meat intake.

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Yup. Sea moss is the shyt. I don't think i've ever heard purple sea moss though. I have a nutrient formula that I bought from Djehutymaatraherbs.com which has these plants/herbs in it:
Alfalfa leaf, Kelp, Nettle leaf, Rose Hip seed, Irish Moss, Moringa leaf, Nutritional yeast, Sheep Sorrel leaf, Suma root, Dulse, Chlorella, Spirulina, and Borojo.

That's pretty much a powerhouse.

I'll check out that purple sea moss though.

Djehuty shyt been on constant supply for like 10 years now lol. I still never see better formulas/deals than his stuff. He typically has rare/potent herbal combinations and for cheap too. I should do a full body cleanse soon though I haven't done one yet this year.
i think i used to take that product. i think it was called the emerald greens. he might have changed the name tho. me and my ex used to stay buying shyt from his site every month . she used to by for our five detoxes at a time, just to have them on deck. lol that black seed & garlic compound was my favorite. whenever i had a cold or a hangover...knocked that shyt out in a few hours!

you really cant go wrong with any of the sea vegetables. theyre really nutrient dense. and theyre still relatively low key in popularity in the health scene. its best to get on them now before they get gmo'd out, corrupted, stepped on and hybridized.
 

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I don't know if I spoke on it but I'm no longer a vegan. It's still dairy free over here but ever since my doctor told me I was lacking omega 3 and I included some fish to my diet. Still going on 4 years no chicken, beef, milk, eggs though. I'll keep it funky before then I was getting agitated by the so called vegan community and their inner fight between their health knowledge and food guidance, labeling, Constant goal post moving etc...

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have to watch those Polyunsaturated fatty acids (PUFAs) though. pasture raised butter is pricey but a safe bet
 

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I was just reading somewhere that for the average person, there are basically only three decisions that really meaningfully reduce your environmental impact.

Drive less
Fly less
Eat less meat

Rich people do a TON of crap that has a big environmental impact though. "Don't be rich" was pretty much a mantra if you really care about the environment, the way they were showing how many more resources wealthy people use. The top 10% in the USA use more resources than the entire populations of nearly every other country.
 

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watch the saturated fats
stop dairy
feel much better eating quality butter than when I was on the hemp/chia/flax kick. plus I get some of that elusive K2 that is missing in most meatless diets

scaring people about quality fats might be the single worst dietary advice of the past century. PUFAs are chemically unstable. they oxidize easier than saturated fats which are stable in comparison. Just knowing those basic facts why would saturated fats concern me more than polyunsaturated fats?

people apparently use flaxseed and walnut oils as wood varnish because they are so oxidizing.. :francis:
 
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I'm actually getting back into a vegan diet after a month of slacking off. I'm basically the most typical flexatarian there is. However, I do have recipes like a mug after 8 years of being an almost vegan. If you've never had a baked avacodo, you haven't lived. cut it in half and fill the pit with tomatoes. I also grind up walnuts with a little paprika, cumin, and soy sauce for the stuffing. :whoo:

bake to your hearts' contents. if you still are using eggs, the egg whites go great in the center with a little bit of cheese and peppers on top.
 

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Ironically the most unstable PUFAs I just read about happen to be the ones I don't even use! Lol I make it a point to avoid cooking with:
vegetable oil, corn oil, canola oil, cottonseed oil, soy oil, palm oil, palm kernel oil.
The main take away from what I see is what and how certain oils are used in cooking and how it's even prepared. High heat+natural oils often=not very good which is why high heat cooking all the time isn't a good idea and raw foods/light cooking is best for certain oils.

extra virgin olive oil, coconut oil, sesame oil, safflower oil, grape seed oil, macadamia oil are good for low heat cooking.
 

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watch the saturated fats
stop dairy

feel much better eating quality butter than when I was on the hemp/chia/flax kick. plus I get some of that elusive K2 that is missing in most meatless diets

scaring people about quality fats might be the single worst dietary advice of the past century. PUFAs are chemically unstable. they oxidize easier than saturated fats which are stable in comparison. Just knowing those basic facts why would saturated fats concern me more than polyunsaturated fats?

people apparently use flaxseed and walnut oils as wood varnish because they are so oxidizing.. :francis:

Ironically the most unstable PUFAs I just read about happen to be the ones I don't even use! Lol I make it a point to avoid cooking with:
vegetable oil, corn oil, canola oil, cottonseed oil, soy oil, palm oil, palm kernel oil.
The main take away from what I see is what and how certain oils are used in cooking and how it's even prepared. High heat+natural oils often=not very good which is why high heat cooking all the time isn't a good idea and raw foods/light cooking is best for certain oils.

extra virgin olive oil, coconut oil, sesame oil, safflower oil, grape seed oil, macadamia oil are good for low heat cooking.


If ya'all want to do your best to cut through the back-and-forth advice that seems to change study by study.

Eating stuff we evolved to eat is most likely to be better for you. Eating chemicals that were manufactured in a lab and which don't exist in nature is more likely to cause problems.

It's not a 100% hard-and-fast rule, but it's a good rule-of-thumb. The more unnaturally something has been processed (especially high heat, added chemicals, curing, etc.), the less likely your body is going to be able to deal with it well.


Of course, the health aspect and the environmental aspect are two entirely different questions. We might have evolved to eat meat, but factory meat farms are still environmentally and socially unsustainable. I'm a fan of eating meat as long as it is sustainable hunted or sustainably ranched, and isn't full of antibiotics and steroids and other injected crap.
 

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I only eat meat once or twice a week usually...and it's always poultry or fish

but I just seen that What The Health doc on Netflix and that shyt got me reinvigorated to go full vegetarian
Breh , I stopped eating poultry, pork and red meat two weeks ago . Don't know if I can go full vegan. I'm at fish, shellfish and eggs right now:yeshrug:
 

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plus I get some of that elusive K2 that is missing in most meatless diets
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scaring people about quality fats might be the single worst dietary advice of the past century.
of the century?!!?
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PUFAs are chemically unstable. they oxidize easier than saturated fats which are stable in comparison. Just knowing those basic facts why would saturated fats concern me more than polyunsaturated fats?

:hubie:

Differential effects of monounsaturated, polyunsaturated and saturated fat ingestion on glucose-stimulated insulin secretion, sensitivity and clear... - PubMed - NCBI

Lipotoxicity: effects of dietary saturated and transfatty acids. - PubMed - NCBI

Veganism and its relationship with insulin resistance and intramyocellular lipid. - PubMed - NCBI

Intramyocellular triglyceride content is a determinant of in vivo insulin resistance in humans: a 1H-13C nuclear magnetic resonance spectroscopy as... - PubMed - NCBI

Substituting dietary saturated for monounsaturated fat impairs insulin sensitivity in healthy men and women: The KANWU Study. - PubMed - NCBI

High dietary intake of saturated fat is associated with reduced semen quality among 701 young Danish men from the general population. - PubMed - NCBI

Lipotoxicity: why do saturated fatty acids cause and monounsaturates protect against it? - PubMed - NCBI

Role of insulin in the pathogenesis of free fatty acid-induced insulin resistance in skeletal muscle. - PubMed - NCBI

Fatty acids and glucolipotoxicity in the pathogenesis of Type 2 diabetes. - PubMed - NCBI

Molecular mechanisms and the role of saturated fatty acids in the progression of non-alcoholic fatty liver disease. - PubMed - NCBI

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i'LL STOP HERE LIFE IS SHORT:jbhmm:

AWW HECK ONE MORE :lolbron:



people apparently use flaxseed and walnut oils as wood varnish because they are so oxidizing.
:yeshrug:
 
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To be a real vegetarian or vegan, you must cut out anything that isn't raw and organic. You're not suppose to cook your food, eat frozen food, animal meat, and none of that soy/tofu meat either.

Also, eat to live not live to eat. Want the mind,body, and soul to be light as a feather.
 
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i think i used to take that product. i think it was called the emerald greens. he might have changed the name tho. me and my ex used to stay buying shyt from his site every month . she used to by for our five detoxes at a time, just to have them on deck. lol that black seed & garlic compound was my favorite. whenever i had a cold or a hangover...knocked that shyt out in a few hours!

you really cant go wrong with any of the sea vegetables. theyre really nutrient dense. and theyre still relatively low key in popularity in the health scene. its best to get on them now before they get gmo'd out, corrupted, stepped on and hybridized.
Hmm I am intruiged, whats really good with this sea moss stuff--never heard of it. Its for weight loss?
 
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To be a real vegetarian or vegan, you must cut out anything that isn't raw and organic. You're not suppose to cook your food, eat frozen food, animal meat, and none of that soy/tofu meat either.

Also, eat to live not live to eat. Want the mind,body, and soul to be light as a feather.
Is this according to you or are you referencing something? I think that raw food should be the main thing but I would like to see the logic behind refusing to cook. If that's the case I don't think there are too many "real" people with plant based diets.
 

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Is this according to you or are you referencing something? I think that raw food should be the main thing but I would like to see the logic behind refusing to cook. If that's the case I don't think there are too many "real" people with plant based diets.

Referencing the truth. Real vegetarians/vegans only deal with raw organic foods only that's why they're real. Not many can make it to that level.

Other vegetarians cut out the meat but s eat horrible diets or others cook too much.

You're not suppose to cook your food, the body sees it as poison
 
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