Winter is Coming

[kingofnyc]

This is something I will never understand.

In general, black men hate white men. I think that's pretty damn evident.

However, I will never understand why black men feel that black women should share their hatred of an entire race of men...especially when we consider that black men don't seem to have a problem loving, sexing, praising and putting the daughters, aunts, mothers, and sisters of white men on a pedestal.

So what's the real deal?

Part of me honestly believes black men simply don't want black women to view white men as potential love interest.

Another part of me feels that it's fear of sexual competition (I mean let's be real...too many black men base their sense of sense worth on their d!cks. If black women begin to reject that...what's left?)?

So, I want to hear from the men.

Why do so many black men project their issues with white men on black women? Why are we expected to help you fight your cold war with other races of MEN (key word)?

P.S. Yes, I know about slavery and Jim Crow. However, it is NOT realistic or practical to blame Modern Day white people (men & women) for the actions of their ancestors. And yes, I know some people are still racist and we shouldn't forget that. However, again, that doesn't stop black men from loving white women. So why is there a beef with black women liking, befriending and loving white men?

what type of tyler perry c00nery shyt is this

 

[Un-AmericanDreamer]

White men have always had access to black women, what the fukk? If they wanted ya'll they would have taken ya'll by now. Most white men prefer their own women.

 

[ebonykiss]

This is something I will never understand.

In general, black men hate white men. I think that's pretty damn evident.

However, I will never understand why black men feel that black women should share their hatred of an entire race of men...especially when we consider that black men don't seem to have a problem loving, sexing, praising and putting the daughters, aunts, mothers, and sisters of white men on a pedestal.

So what's the real deal?

Part of me honestly believes black men simply don't want black women to view white men as potential love interest.

Another part of me feels that it's fear of sexual competition (I mean let's be real...too many black men base their sense of sense worth on their d!cks. If black women begin to reject that...what's left?)?

So, I want to hear from the men.

Why do so many black men project their issues with white men on black women? Why are we expected to help you fight your cold war with other races of MEN (key word)?

P.S. Yes, I know about slavery and Jim Crow. However, it is NOT realistic or practical to blame Modern Day white people (men & women) for the actions of their ancestors. And yes, I know some people are still racist and we shouldn't forget that. However, again, that doesn't stop black men from loving white women. So why is there a beef with black women liking, befriending and loving white men?

Hypocrisy

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsR6yA-XEpY"]Black Men Who Date White Women But Hate Black Women Dating White Men? - YouTube[/ame]

 

[MurderSheWrote]

lol if you like being with a man who oppresses you both in race and gender then so be it. Black women are not my women anyway so do what you want.

And we just know that white men are the only people who oppress women (specifically black women)...yeah okay.

He's right though....in society Black Women and White men can pretty much do whatever they want without any repercussion or backlash.

Umm...let's see: black women get attacked for the following: Having kids of out of wedlock, having kids with non-black men, marrying non-black men, not marrying at all, waiting until after age 30 to marry, and a whole list of other bullshyt. Yet we don't get any backlash? Yeah...okay.

well, let's look at the history. the first legal IR union was between who? a black woman and a white man. lowest rate of divorce is between who? black woman, white man. when white men require a pitbull against black men in the workplace, who does he hire? black woman. just keep real, i noticed you didn't have a problem with the second half of my statement. hell, tell me. besides being shackled to the black man, how are black women oppressed in today's society? some could argue black women have had their liberation before white women, you run the black community. you're the back bone.

Here with go with the revisionist history and lies.

The first legal IR union? I'm assuming you're speaking of Loving V. VA which was NOT the first legal IR Union.

Blacks and whites have been marrying since we were brought to this shores. While it was legal in some states it was illegal in others. States typically have jurisidiction over marriage rights.

A BM/WW coupling could marry in NY but not VA. Just like a BW/WM coupling could marry in NY but not VA. This idea that black women had one-up on black men in terms of IR marriage is a FALSE lie told over and over again by bitter nikkas on the internet.

Interracial relationships were actually more prominent up north amongst black men than they were amongst black women.

In terms of BW/WM divorce rate: I believe they last longer because they are more genuine. When these two typically marry each other it's not based on stereotypes (notice I said TYPICALLY). I know some of you delusional black males on this site like to believe "They last longer because black women will put up with more from white males" when in reality black women can't make white males stay in a marriage when they want out.

Black women are pitbulls in the workplace against black males? That's news to me because in my workplace (a pharmacy) there aren't any black males. I'm sure it's the same for black women who have CAREERS (not jobs).

How are black women oppressed in society? Let's see: We have a beauty standard that folks are constantly trying to hold over our head...including black men. We face both racism and sexism (both in and outside of the race). We suffer from economic oppression (quite a few black women are poor). This list could go on and on. The mere fact that you asked this question speaks volumes about the disconnect between black women and black men. Do not expect black women to understand YOUR plight when you refuse to make any effort to understand ours.

Black women run the black community: The biggest lie ever told.

Other than their households what else are black women running?

The church? Nope that's run by black men.

The government in black meccas? Nope that's run by black men (and run straight to hell at that).

The school boards in black meccas? Nope once again that's mostly run by black men.

The businesses in the black community? Nope that's mostly run by non-blacks.

Do black women typically make more money than black males? Nope.

The FALSE idea of the "black matriarchy" needs to die.

but to answer the topic, many expect you to hate WM because of the historical context. yes, there's no longer slavery. but whites have made sure we're systematically lining ourselves up to fill up their prisons, with the help of single mothers and their shotty parental skills.

But these individuals don't typically hate ALL whites. They just hate white men.

White men have always had access to black women, what the fukk? If they wanted ya'll they would have taken ya'll by now. Most white men prefer their own women.

I asked why black men expect black women to HATE white men. I didn't ask your opinion of interracial relationships between black women/white men.

 

[JillScottsHunny]

Dont y'all get tired of regurgitating the same topics?

 

[I Lord Justice]

Relatively, I don't see how you can say that Black men hate white men.

If history is any indicator, white men have aggressively DESPISED Black men for centuries, and Black men are really on the responding end of it.

 

[Gravity]

This is something I will never understand.

In general, black men hate white men. I think that's pretty damn evident.

However, I will never understand why black men feel that black women should share their hatred of an entire race of men...especially when we consider that black men don't seem to have a problem loving, sexing, praising and putting the daughters, aunts, mothers, and sisters of white men on a pedestal.

So what's the real deal?

Part of me honestly believes black men simply don't want black women to view white men as potential love interest.

Another part of me feels that it's fear of sexual competition (I mean let's be real...too many black men base their sense of sense worth on their d!cks. If black women begin to reject that...what's left?)?

So, I want to hear from the men.

Why do so many black men project their issues with white men on black women? Why are we expected to help you fight your cold war with other races of MEN (key word)?

P.S. Yes, I know about slavery and Jim Crow. However, it is NOT realistic or practical to blame Modern Day white people (men & women) for the actions of their ancestors. And yes, I know some people are still racist and we shouldn't forget that. However, again, that doesn't stop black men from loving white women. So why is there a beef with black women liking, befriending and loving white men?

You're a dumb bytch who's just trolling which is why you ignored Majestic Pape's post. Black men don't hate white men, it's the other way around. Sadly, black people love white people more than they love themselves. You're a perfect example.

 

[kingofnyc]

like real talk:
i dont even understand this thread




all the nikkaz i personally know -who 'only' fukkz with white or nonblack bytchez
give 2 shyts on black women dating a white men



the only nikkaz i come across who hate seeing BW/WM are these afrocentric, dreadlocks, wood stick chewing, backpack wearing, poetry type of nikkaz

 

[Sierra Mist]

And we just know that white men are the only people who oppress women (specifically black women)...yeah okay.



Umm...let's see: black women get attacked for the following: Having kids of out of wedlock, having kids with non-black men, marrying non-black men, not marrying at all, waiting until after age 30 to marry, and a whole list of other bullshyt. Yet we don't get any backlash? Yeah...okay.



Here with go with the revisionist history and lies.

The first legal IR union? I'm assuming you're speaking of Loving V. VA which was NOT the first legal IR Union.

Blacks and whites have been marrying since we were brought to this shores. While it was legal in some states it was illegal in others. States typically have jurisidiction over marriage rights.

A BM/WW coupling could marry in NY but not VA. Just like a BW/WM coupling could marry in NY but not VA. This idea that black women had one-up on black men in terms of IR marriage is a FALSE lie told over and over again by bitter nikkas on the internet.

Interracial relationships were actually more prominent up north amongst black men than they were amongst black women.

In terms of BW/WM divorce rate: I believe they last longer because they are more genuine. When these two typically marry each other it's not based on stereotypes (notice I said TYPICALLY). I know some of you delusional black males on this site like to believe "They last longer because black women will put up with more from white males" when in reality black women can't make white males stay in a marriage when they want out.

Black women are pitbulls in the workplace against black males? That's news to me because in my workplace (a pharmacy) there aren't any black males. I'm sure it's the same for black women who have CAREERS (not jobs).

How are black women oppressed in society? Let's see: We have a beauty standard that folks are constantly trying to hold over our head...including black men. We face both racism and sexism (both in and outside of the race). We suffer from economic oppression (quite a few black women are poor). This list could go on and on. The mere fact that you asked this question speaks volumes about the disconnect between black women and black men. Do not expect black women to understand YOUR plight when you refuse to make any effort to understand ours.

Black women run the black community: The biggest lie ever told.

Other than their households what else are black women running?

The church? Nope that's run by black men.

The government in black meccas? Nope that's run by black men (and run straight to hell at that).

The school boards in black meccas? Nope once again that's mostly run by black men.

The businesses in the black community? Nope that's mostly run by non-blacks.

Do black women typically make more money than black males? Nope.

The FALSE idea of the "black matriarchy" needs to die.



But these individuals don't typically hate ALL whites. They just hate white men.



I asked why black men expect black women to HATE white men. I didn't ask your opinion of interracial relationships between black women/white men.

When have African American men oppressed African American women? AA men don't even have enough power to oppress their women plus the black community in America is a pseudo-matriarchy. AA women are the ONLY women on Earth who have not been oppressed by their men.

I mean... You're saying all these arguments I already killed back in 2010...

 

[marcuz]

And we just know that white men are the only people who oppress women (specifically black women)...yeah okay.



Umm...let's see: black women get attacked for the following: Having kids of out of wedlock, having kids with non-black men, marrying non-black men, not marrying at all, waiting until after age 30 to marry, and a whole list of other bullshyt. Yet we don't get any backlash? Yeah...okay.



Here with go with the revisionist history and lies.

The first legal IR union? I'm assuming you're speaking of Loving V. VA which was NOT the first legal IR Union.

Blacks and whites have been marrying since we were brought to this shores. While it was legal in some states it was illegal in others. States typically have jurisidiction over marriage rights.

A BM/WW coupling could marry in NY but not VA. Just like a BW/WM coupling could marry in NY but not VA. This idea that black women had one-up on black men in terms of IR marriage is a FALSE lie told over and over again by bitter nikkas on the internet.

Interracial relationships were actually more prominent up north amongst black men than they were amongst black women.

In terms of BW/WM divorce rate: I believe they last longer because they are more genuine. When these two typically marry each other it's not based on stereotypes (notice I said TYPICALLY). I know some of you delusional black males on this site like to believe "They last longer because black women will put up with more from white males" when in reality black women can't make white males stay in a marriage when they want out.

Black women are pitbulls in the workplace against black males? That's news to me because in my workplace (a pharmacy) there aren't any black males. I'm sure it's the same for black women who have CAREERS (not jobs).

How are black women oppressed in society? Let's see: We have a beauty standard that folks are constantly trying to hold over our head...including black men. We face both racism and sexism (both in and outside of the race). We suffer from economic oppression (quite a few black women are poor). This list could go on and on. The mere fact that you asked this question speaks volumes about the disconnect between black women and black men. Do not expect black women to understand YOUR plight when you refuse to make any effort to understand ours.

Black women run the black community: The biggest lie ever told.

Other than their households what else are black women running?

The church? Nope that's run by black men.

The government in black meccas? Nope that's run by black men (and run straight to hell at that).

The school boards in black meccas? Nope once again that's mostly run by black men.

The businesses in the black community? Nope that's mostly run by non-blacks.

Do black women typically make more money than black males? Nope.

The FALSE idea of the "black matriarchy" needs to die.



But these individuals don't typically hate ALL whites. They just hate white men.



I asked why black men expect black women to HATE white men. I didn't ask your opinion of interracial relationships between black women/white men.

i'd address all of this if it were in TLR, but i'm only going to respond to a few. first, black women can talk about oppression all day long but can't explain how the powerless negro male is the one oppressing them. yea, we make more money than black women on average but we're neck and neck with our women compared to other races of men.

second, the black woman's main plight seems to always fall around beauty. you're main example of oppression goes straight to beauty. well guess who controls the beauty standard in US? oh, that's right, the amazing white man you love so much. so white men set a standard 99% of black women can't possibly achieve, and you take it out on the black man?

and you say other than the households like that's not enough. black women are the factories that pump out the men you complain about. how are black men supposed to come out and lead, and compete against other races of patriarchal men. when they're raised by feminist matriarchal women.

 

[WHIPPEDCream]

No.
Ironically, I see shade from other black women to black women who prefer white men.I'm not saying this is the norm but I've see comments from black women who say things like "oh she's only with him for this,that.& the other." Or something like "she treats him like he is a prize,she's pathetic."

 

[MurderSheWrote]

When have African American men oppressed African American women? AA men don't even have enough power to oppress their women plus the black community in America is a pseudo-matriarchy. AA women are the ONLY women on Earth who have not been oppressed by their men.

I mean... You're saying all these arguments I already killed back in 2010...

Black women have the highest rates of domestic violence. That is a form of oppression.

Black women are held to a beauty standard that isn't even sensible by black men and others. That is a form of oppression.

Street harassment is a form of oppression.

Calling black women "bytches" and "Hoes" is a form of oppression.

Calling a black woman a "bytch" after she turns down your advances is a form of oppression.

Definition of oppression...

Oppression (noun): the exercise of authority or power in a burdensome, cruel, or unjust manner.

Rape, battery, verbal abuse, sexual abuse, emotional abuse, belittling black women under an unjust beauty standard etc. All of these things are a form of oppression. And guess what? Black men are capable of doing all of the above.

You don't have to have economic power to oppress someone.

If we were living under a TRUE matriarchy NONE of the above would exist.

Black men are the most powerless men on the face of the planet. True.

However, black men DO have power within the black community, and anyone who wants to deny it is not being honest with themselves.

i'd address all of this if it were in TLR, but i'm only going to respond to a few. first, black women can talk about oppression all day long but can't explain how the powerless negro male is the one oppressing them. yea, we make more money than black women on average but we're neck and neck with our women compared to other races of men.

See my comment up above to Sierra Mist.

second, the black woman's main plight seems to always fall around beauty. you're main example of oppression goes straight to beauty. well guess who controls the beauty standard in US? oh, that's right, the amazing white man you love so much. so white men set a standard 99% of black women can't possibly achieve, and you take it out on the black man?

The black woman's main plight doesn't center around beauty. I simply used it as ONE example of oppression.

Secondly, white men don't control ALL standards of beauty. You act as if black men are completely powerless in deeming beauty standards. Sorry not the case...not in YOUR BLACK community which is NOT a Matriarchy.

You do have a say in beauty standards IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY and often times that standard of beauty doesn't even look anything like YOU...let alone black women.

and you say other than the households like that's not enough. black women are the factories that pump out the men you complain about. how are black men supposed to come out and lead, and compete against other races of patriarchal men. when they're raised by feminist matriarchal women.

Here is the thing: those same "factories" are also producing black girls who grow up to be BLACK WOMEN. Yet I never hear any excuses as to why these girls don't grow up to be upstanding women. They are just supposed to know right from wrong and they're supposed to "lead" the men to righteousness. Because black men supposedly are incapable of thinking beyond their d!cks.

Somehow or the other you feel it is completely excusable for the mediocre behavior of today's black men but you don't give any excuses for black women...at all period, who are coming out the SAME households as the boys. Again

The black community is NOT a matriarchy as you proclaimed. If you want to argue black households, as single parents holds, are matriarchal that's one thing. However, that's not what you said. You basically said black women are running things in the black community, which is FALSE.

I pointed out the reality that this "black matriarchy" doesn't exist outside of black households. So, I wish you men would stop LYING and excusing your failures. You have power WITHIN the black community. You just abuse and misuse it.

No.
Ironically, I see shade from other black women to black women who prefer white men.I'm not saying this is the norm but I've see comments from black women who say things like "oh she's only with him for this,that.& the other." Or something like "she treats him like he is a prize,she's pathetic."

Very true.

 

[Sierra Mist]

Black wom---

K.



That's enough.

 

[MurderSheWrote]

K.



That's enough.

I thought so. So much for "killing arguments." I'm playing chess. Stop playing checkers.

 

[Sierra Mist]

I thought so. So much for "killing arguments." I'm playing chess. Stop playing checkers.

You complain about the behavior that black men have... 70% of black children are being raised by who? Their single black mothers. These men aren't just coming out the womb saying "black women are bytches." Look at who the fukk is raising them.

I didn't say matriarchy. I said PSEUDO-matriarchy.

And can we stop acting like the black men who call black women bytches aren't the ones who get the most black p*ssy? Lil Wayne calls you black women bytches all day and every concert BLACK WOMEN are in the front row reciting all his misogynistic lyrics with him. A song calling black women bytches and hoes comes on in the club and black women are the first ones on the dance floor saying "girl das my song!!!!"

Black men have NOTHING to do with the beauty standard. WHITE MEN CONTROL THE BEAUTY STANDARD. NOT BLACK MEN. How is it black men oppressing you when it's the same white men that YOU worship who set the beauty standards and say that YOU are on the bottom of the totem pole? That's WHITE men saying you aren't beautiful. Black men aren't in control of those fashion magazines. That's the same white man who you think is your fukking savior. White men oppress you more than black men EVER could.

I mean seriously. You need a better play book. I used that gif on you because all your points have already been debunked, defiled, and decapitated YEARS ago.

No one has time for all that back and forth on played out topics.