Is Liggins the fukkING GOAT


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godkiller

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The relationship between black American women and black American men is what I am commenting on. The dismissal of the feelings of black women by black men is what I am commenting on.

While I agree that there is some level of dismissal which is inherent in male and female discussions, I think some misconstrue "dismissal" of issues because they are unimportant or counterproductive with "dismissal" of issues because they involve black women. I dismiss issues because of the latter. I consider whether the issue is important and what it means for black people and women, then I make my decision. This is how men all over make their decisions. When cacs first listened to white women and their cries for more rights, cacs thought about what it meant and how it could be reconciled, and then for a hundred years did nothing until such a time where it was feasible. At the same time cacs created their empire and forced cac women to continue what black feminists call "muling", which is create babies, shut their mouths and work for the good of the cac. Now behold the cac's ascent. A woman's issue is not important merely because she says so.

This is not third grade. We should not need to add disclaimers to every comment. I should not need to state that all black women do not have the same experience, and all black men are not arrogant a$$holes who think they have a right to tell black women how they should process their experiences. It should be obvious that no one is speaking in absolutes.

We need to account for contingencies and averages in order to paint a full picture of what goes on. Anything else makes our debate farcical.

I didn't even grow up around black people, yet I know exactly why these sentiments are present. If you are pro black then one of your goals should be to push towards healing and not division. Your dismissive attitude and those who are like you are not productive. It just opens the doors for black women to be tricked and lured by snakes who see the problem, and come slithering in with that, "you are so beautiful and I appreciate you...." tactic.

I don't disagree that there are c00nery and colorism sentiments present in black American society. I think the best way to go about it is to acknowledge these things as well as everything else in the mix, including the fact that there are plenty of black men who want black women and plenty of black women that only want this or that men, or don't want black men at all; that all women's desirability or undesirability does not come from skin tione; etc. This provides a full picture of going ons. Criticizing bed wenches and warning black women of racist snakes is another way to help those we are unhappy. Telling black women to move to places with more black people (duh) is another way.


Black men are the victims.

You are being sarcastic but you have no idea how right you are. Black men have to suffer these insults and indecencies from all races and genders, including his own women, and all because he lacks the power to enforce otherwise.
 
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Damn, the struggle is real.

It's been a minute for me, but I'm older and I'm not pursuing jumpoffs anymore. If I just wanted a quick nut, I think it would be easy.

I do disagree with guys telling virgins that they shouldn't have standards. It's not realistic for a guy who's never been with a woman to blindly pursue a chick he's not attracted to. She doesn't have to be bad, but he needs to find something attractive about her. If he's not attracted, it will show, and the girl will pick up on that. Now once you get experience and know how it feels to be with a woman, then you can compartmentalize and pursue a woman solely for sexual gratification, even if there is little to no physical attraction. But for a beginner physical attraction has to be the impetus for sex.
 

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I have already listed examples. :yeshrug: But you probably didn't read that post.

so it's safe to say you've had way more positive experiences with black men yet you want to focus on ignorant individuals who you eventually ignored and have no significant importance in your life :martin:
 

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Whether one has an argument preemptively or otherwise has little bearing on the reading and legitimacy of your argument. You say men here don't "listen" to you but this is plainly false given how much of your arguments are considered and refuted against. The problem you have is that men here don't take your arguments as being valid. You think that because you make an argument, we are obliged to accept it. That is not how debate works.



Well, whether we are black women has little bearing on whether we can accurately determine the worthiness of a cause. For some black women, bending over and sucking cac toes is a "solution" and black men should listen because "we aren't black women". Being a black women doesn't mean a person knows anything about what is good for black women and people. So dead that line of argument. Any person's argument--male or female--about anything should be judged on the MERITS and not on gender.




This is untrue generalization. Black women and men can bridge their differences and communicate. I have interacted with and found commonality with a plethora of like-minded black women in my school and work life. Black females dialogue with black men in black countries and all over the world everyday, but dialogue itself is not sufficient to convince anybody of anything (nor should it).

Now, did it ever occur to you that black male complaints are given more weight because our complaints implicitly hold more weight? Let's give an example. European women the past were worried about things like pacifism, feminism and suffrage. European men meanwhile were worried about war, domination, money, and loyalty. White women's issues were ignored hence and white men pushed their own ideas (including ignoring white women). Now we see the white man rules and the white women beside him, which pretty much bears out the notion that white women's issues simply weren't important or necessary.


"Well, whether we are black women has little bearing on whether we can accurately determine the worthiness of a cause.":mjlol::mjlol:


"Now, did it ever occur to you that black male complaints are given more weight because our complaints implicitly hold more weight?" =Did it ever occur to you that black male complaints are more important?"
 

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I saw a girl checking out The Master And Margarita in a book store and was like :whoo: gonna make some small talk over this, one of my fav books. Put the book I was looking at back and slowly made my way over nervous as fukk, she turned to see me coming, I sped up and nearly ran right past her, out the door onto the street :mjcry: Does that count :mjcry:
 

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My friends in real life that swim in p*ssy dont cry like Dr. X

My friends that struggle with keeping a chick or getting laid talk the worst about women, blaming them for their failures

It shows in TLR. 30 year old men posting shyt about women all day.

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Started a convo with this thick Spanish joint walking through my neighborhood, shawty had no shoes on so I had to comment :dead: same shyt, she had a man but she was cool besides that weird shyt

It really ain't hard to open ya mouth and talk
http://www.thecoli.com/threads/the-...are-still-single.318553/page-12#post-13427253

Same shyt I've said many times in this forum. All dudes need to do is open their mouths.

Shorty was actually gonna give me the number but hesitated and so I asked if she had a bf. She said yes, and how she shouldn't be giving her number out so i told her not to worry about it. Why? Cause I know its another cute girl I'll see a few hours later . after a while its nothing talking to these girls
 
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