NOSaintsFan02
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How did Peyton Manning survive so many underwhelming playoff performances? His defenses weren't bad
- Thread starter KidJSoul
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Another thing I want to mention is that no regular season MVP has won the SB since 1999 and the majority of the time, regular season MVP goes to a QB on one of the "best teams."
Peyton a 5 time winner is probably the "face" of this, but a lot of QBs go through it. Colts didn't do the best job building teams and were probably too reliant on Manning. The only time Indy won a playoff game where Manning threw less than 2 TDs was during the SB run.
Peyton a 5 time winner is probably the "face" of this, but a lot of QBs go through it. Colts didn't do the best job building teams and were probably too reliant on Manning. The only time Indy won a playoff game where Manning threw less than 2 TDs was during the SB run.
They built a team premised on offense and that’s why he got well deserved blame. Patriots we’re designed for complimentary football in the early years and Colts were designed to blow you out. When that offense underachieves the head of it will get blamed. It’s not like he was looking 35-34. He was having stinkers against teams like the Pennington Jets.
Mike the Executioner
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Players always get friendlier flowers after they retire, and in Peyton's case it's almost warranted. He had that choker label attached to him from his college days and never being able to beat Florida :I'm referring to recently, in the last 5 years post his retirement
I know how it was in his time, I watched him
It stuck with him throughout his NFL career even after the Super Bowls, so much so that he was labeled a "regular season QB" like that was some knock. Like the Colts team he dragged to 10 wins in his last season before the neck injury didnt immediately go 2-14 without him, or like his four year Denver run didn't produce more double digit win seasons than Denver had in the previous 12 years before he got there (ontop of their first SB appearances since Elway).
The narrative and criticism was always way too one sided for what was genuinely an All-Time QB, that's why i don't mind any course correction happening now.
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I'm more sympathetic to Rodgers than Peyton
This isn't how sports works and you know this.
This is a cop out. They went and got players he wanted to help him dominate. They got him all the weapons on the world. The team building argument fails because he didn’t even do what the team was built to do. That is why he got that tag. Notice how Aaron Rodgers or Brees never got that tag because they were putting up numbers while their defenses failed them. Peyton was wilting on offense and not protecting his defense in any way. You’re acting like he lost like Brees did when Marshawn went off or when Diggs catches the ball in Minnesota. He wasn’t going out shooting. He was going out sad in the early 2000s.
nairdas
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Definitely a bunch of people in here who don't know what the fukk they are talking about.
Peyton didn't have terrible defenses, but they were no greats either. The Colts would continuously get ran on week in and week out. I know the Jags one time ran on them for like 400+ yards. It was disgusting to watch. Peyton has bailed the colts defense out more than the colts defense has bailed him out and I think that gets lost in the shuffle. And for damn sure not all of his playoff losses are his fault. The colts defense let a backup qb who wasn't prepared to play go right down the field and scored. Peyton nearly had 500 yards that game. Let's not forget when Denver let that raven's reciever get behind them for like 70 yards. Like wtf was that shyt??? Peyton definitely got criticized for some of his playoff performances and deservedly so, but let's not act like he was a bum every playoff game.
At the end of the day Peyton is one of the greatest qbs ever who had almost all the major records when he retired. One of which he still holds with the single season TD record of 55. He also 3-2 in the playoffs against a lot of yall goat in Brady and that's how thats gonna stay forever
Also, I need yall to have this same energy for Rogers. nikka been to one superbowl 12 years ago and nikkas try to put him above Peyton. GTFOH with that bullshyt. He don't even have the stats yet to even argue that case yet. Probably never broken any of the main qbs records before either. Definitely the most overrated qb ever.
Peyton didn't have terrible defenses, but they were no greats either. The Colts would continuously get ran on week in and week out. I know the Jags one time ran on them for like 400+ yards. It was disgusting to watch. Peyton has bailed the colts defense out more than the colts defense has bailed him out and I think that gets lost in the shuffle. And for damn sure not all of his playoff losses are his fault. The colts defense let a backup qb who wasn't prepared to play go right down the field and scored. Peyton nearly had 500 yards that game. Let's not forget when Denver let that raven's reciever get behind them for like 70 yards. Like wtf was that shyt??? Peyton definitely got criticized for some of his playoff performances and deservedly so, but let's not act like he was a bum every playoff game.
At the end of the day Peyton is one of the greatest qbs ever who had almost all the major records when he retired. One of which he still holds with the single season TD record of 55. He also 3-2 in the playoffs against a lot of yall goat in Brady and that's how thats gonna stay forever
Also, I need yall to have this same energy for Rogers. nikka been to one superbowl 12 years ago and nikkas try to put him above Peyton. GTFOH with that bullshyt. He don't even have the stats yet to even argue that case yet. Probably never broken any of the main qbs records before either. Definitely the most overrated qb ever.
Brees had 3 of the worst defenses of all time.
Rodgers isn't overrated... Packers D allows 34 PPG in the playoffs. What QB is reaching multiple Super Bowls with that?Definitely a bunch of people in here who don't know what the fukk they are talking about.
Peyton didn't have terrible defenses, but they were no greats either. The Colts would continuously get ran on week in and week out. I know the Jags one time ran on them for like 400+ yards. It was disgusting to watch. Peyton has bailed the colts defense out more than the colts defense has bailed him out and I think that gets lost in the shuffle. And for damn sure not all of his playoff losses are his fault. The colts defense let a backup qb who wasn't prepared to play go right down the field and scored. Peyton nearly had 500 yards that game. Let's not forget when Denver let that raven's reciever get behind them for like 70 yards. Like wtf was that shyt??? Peyton definitely got criticized for some of his playoff performances and deservedly so, but let's not act like he was a bum every playoff game.
At the end of the day Peyton is one of the greatest qbs ever who had almost all the major records when he retired. One of which he still holds with the single season TD record of 55. He also 3-2 in the playoffs against a lot of yall goat in Brady and that's how thats gonna stay forever
Also, I need yall to have this same energy for Rogers. nikka been to one superbowl 12 years ago and nikkas try to put him above Peyton. GTFOH with that bullshyt. He don't even have the stats yet to even argue that case yet. Probably never broken any of the main qbs records before either. Definitely the most overrated qb ever.
Definitely a bunch of people in here who don't know what the fukk they are talking about.
Peyton didn't have terrible defenses, but they were no greats either. The Colts would continuously get ran on week in and week out. I know the Jags one time ran on them for like 400+ yards. It was disgusting to watch. Peyton has bailed the colts defense out more than the colts defense has bailed him out and I think that gets lost in the shuffle. And for damn sure not all of his playoff losses are his fault. The colts defense let a backup qb who wasn't prepared to play go right down the field and scored. Peyton nearly had 500 yards that game. Let's not forget when Denver let that raven's reciever get behind them for like 70 yards. Like wtf was that shyt??? Peyton definitely got criticized for some of his playoff performances and deservedly so, but let's not act like he was a bum every playoff game.
At the end of the day Peyton is one of the greatest qbs ever who had almost all the major records when he retired. One of which he still holds with the single season TD record of 55. He also 3-2 in the playoffs against a lot of yall goat in Brady and that's how thats gonna stay forever
Also, I need yall to have this same energy for Rogers. nikka been to one superbowl 12 years ago and nikkas try to put him above Peyton. GTFOH with that bullshyt. He don't even have the stats yet to even argue that case yet. Probably never broken any of the main qbs records before either. Definitely the most overrated qb ever.
Peyton is the goat or top 2 minimum but your bugging on the Rodgers part he's no where near overrated
The team building argument doesn't fail, I see Rodgers and Brees fans making similar arguments in this thread that team building held those QBs back too. Indy was built in a way where Peyton had to be on every game to win and that's proven to be a poor way to build a team.
Also why bring up the Diggs game? That's a poor example, it's not like Brees was amazing in that game. If you want to bring up that one, why not Indy vs Miami (missed game winner FG in OT), Indy vs Pitt (missed FG in regulation), Indy vs SD (went to OT never saw the ball), Indy vs NYJ (D blew the game late vs Sanchez after Manning drove them to take the lead with under a min to go).
It's exactly how sports work. Two teams line up, one wins and the other loses. Sports media doesn't work this way though.
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