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Congratulations on your engagement,” the text flashed across my phone.

It was the first I had heard from him in years, besides the countless scenarios in my head where he’d speak to me and beg me to come back. I wish it was an exaggeration to tell you that I thought about him every day. I wish it weren't true that the moment my fiancé, *Paul, slipped that diamond on my finger, I immediately started mourning the loss of the only true love I’d known: *Bryce.

“Who’s that, babe?” Paul asked as he cut into his steak.

We were out to dinner to celebrate something. It may have even been to acknowledge the fact that in less than a year, we’d be bound together by marriage. We would take an oath in front my father, a pastor, and before God to never abandon one another or forsake our vows until death would part us forever.

I looked across the table at the face I promised to love for the rest of my days and immediately regretted giving up on our no-phone policy at dinner.

“It’s just an old friend who must have heard about our engagement and wants to wish us well,” I managed to muffle through a voice so shaken with shock, I could barely make out the words.

Why was Bryce contacting me? Why now? Was he seriously happy for the life I had chosen with Paul that would forever keep me out of his?

As confused about the motive as I was, inside I was beaming. As long as there was contact being made, I didn’t care about anything but the fact that if he was making the effort, I was in his thoughts at least some of the time.

This is where everything started to spiral. Up or down? I’m still not sure. All I know is, from the moment that text hit my phone, I made the worst decisions that led to some of the best moments of my life.

I met Paul at my friend Melissa’s wedding. He was conveniently assigned to the chair next to mine. I found out later that “we” were planned all along. Conversation flowed, and so did the wine. Before we knew it, we were involved in a kind of sliding that could easily be considered electric.

A year and a half passed. He was everything my parents wanted for me with his clean-cut looks and dedicated nature. Paul’s the exact opposite of everything I am, which is the exact reason I married him. He gave my life the security I was in desperate need of.

The day we got married, there were 40-mile-an-hour winds, a monsoon rainstorm, and all I could think about was Bryce. It was the 13th of March and all the unlucky omens associated with that number seemed to conspire against me making me second-guess my disbelief in superstitions. Paul looked so handsome and happy despite the one-hour drive in the downpour he traveled in to get to me. I was the love of his life and it showed.

“You’re so beautiful,” he whispered through the air as I walked down the aisle toward him and married the greatest man I’d never love.

Six months later, I became the liar and cheater and everything in between that I loathed in a person. It became hard to look in the mirror. All the lies consumed me. I cringed at the globs of hair I’d comb out of my scalp every day in the shower.

Stress can do a lot to you,” my primary care physician noted as she prescribed my first anti-anxiety pills.

The first time I cheated was in early September. I was at my friend’s Stephanie’s wedding that happened to be at the same place Paul and I said our I do’s less than a year prior. She even had her guests reserve rooms at the same hotel we chose, which placed me within a couple short miles of Bryce.

“I’m in your neck of the woods,” I sent in a text. “Come meet me.”

I even told Paul that an ex-coworker was coming to see me and he would be here soon. He left like he knew. It was like my infidelity was hiding in plain site. Neither of us wanted to confront the elephant in the room.

“Wow, you guys must have some kind of trust,” a new friend acquired by alcohol and dancing said through inebriated words. “I’d never allow that.”

Not even 20 minutes had passed when Bryce drove up.

“Are you sure you want to do this?” he asked.

I lifted my dress in acceptance and consummated the long-lost love I had thought was gone forever, while my husband traveled up to our hotel room alone. Bryce left almost as soon as he came and I fell asleep in the hallway sick with too much wine or too much truth, I wasn’t sure. I told Paul the next morning when he found me on the floor outside our door that I couldn’t find my key and I didn’t want to wake him. I hated myself. But I kept going.

It became an obsession to see Bryce. We had “our motel” where we’d meet halfway in between our homes. I would dress in the best lingerie and make myself up like I’d never done for my husband. Bryce made me feel so beautiful and so ugly all at the same time. I was addicted and in love. Blinded by lust, it seemed clear what I had to do.

One night after work, I walked in to mine and Paul’s brand-new three-bedroom townhouse in suburban Pennsylvania and mumbled the words that fell out of my mouth and broke his heart.

“I don’t love you. I want a divorce. Sorry.”

The look on his face when I closed the door on our marriage and our home for the last time will stay with me forever. He thought I was coming back. I knew I wasn’t.

For the first time in my life, I was alone and supporting myself. I leased an apartment in Philly and bought a second pillow for Bryce. He never even showed up.

“Why did you do this to me? I gave up everything,” I texted.

“Because you have a good p*ssy?” he replied.

For the next two days, I sobbed alone on my bathroom floor. Every teardrop represented a lie my body needed to purge in order to move on from the monster I had become.

Then, just like that, it was over. I woke up, looked in the mirror and applied cover up to the puffy, red lumps that occupied my eye sockets, and promised myself to never be so dumb again. I called my landlord and told her I wouldn’t be renewing my lease, sold everything I owned and moved to New York City, my first love that wasn’t Bryce, with nothing but four bags of belongings to my name. To many, I had nothing. To me, I finally had it all.

Bryce contacted me one more time after my move. I looked down at my phone at his cowardly attempt to hook me yet again, and ignored him. He was back, but he didn’t get to get me back.

Paul has since moved on. It’s quite evident by the pictures I see plastered in my Facebook newsfeed. Him and his girlfriend in her slinky black dress are happily posed beside the front door of our first home. I’ve seen every bouquet of flowers he’s surprised her with since I’ve moved on and she moved in. I remember when he used to do that for me. I wonder if he writes the same messages on sticky notes telling her to have a good day and that no matter what would happen, she will always have his love


The night before I moved to New York, Paul took me out to dinner and cried. That was over a year ago and the last time I saw his face. I wish I could say I’m sorry for breaking his heart. I wish I could tell him I’m sure I’ll never find anyone that will treat me as well as he did because history proves I’ve never loved the nice ones.

But what history also tries to prove is that I’m more likely to cheat in the future because of my past. But in my case, all of the betrayals that gave life to the monster inside me are dead and gone. I’ll never do it

this is why if a woman is not TOTALLY into you, still has exes around, has cheated in the past

EJECT, it doesn't matter how hot she is, it doesn't matter that you think you can change her
its ALL BS

save yourself any more heartache before you get into deep
 

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Just remember

A woman will either like you/love you or doesn't, and it's virtually impossible to change that. Not all women will like you and not all relationships are meant to work out, and I don't consider that as failure, it's growth and respect for yourself and others.
 

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@CrossBones breh that was just :wow::banderas:

my game sometimes is just sooo rusty :scusthov:that i almost always kill any chance i have with a girl that is initially attracted to me. :mjcry:It goes girl gives me signs, i step up, do or say something....and its a wrap. :sadcam: Just recently i got at this light-skinned british chick at a party few weeks back...and i think i sealed my fate when i dabbled on about irrelevant shyt...rather than being straight to the point and being in and out of the convo within 1-2 mins. I told dis bytch to follow me cuz the music was soo loud and i wanted to talk to her...and she did....but then when i asked for her number :aicmon:I know my nervousness showed :sadcam:

and its funny...the same girls that rejected you or you fukked up with...be the same ones comin at you down the line...but by then you like:camby:

I need to fine tune my approach brehs, but not in the sense that i''ll become outcome dependent but rather that i be calm, direct, short and suave.

@Asantehene @Emperor_ReinScarf @Atlrocafella @kevm3 i guess practice makes perfect?
 

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i posted this in a thread



this is why if a woman is not TOTALLY into you, still has exes around, has cheated in the past

EJECT, it doesn't matter how hot she is, it doesn't matter that you think you can change her
its ALL BS

save yourself any more heartache before you get into deep

Let me add a personal side to something like this, when i met my ex, she would always talk about her ex. She would be like their "great friends" at the time I was a simp didn't want to be seen as the "jealous type" so i was like :ehh:, he was a loser anyways :beli:

Of course my ex was hot and had a big ass, i thought I was winning brehs, once the honeymoon period fizzled out, i saw more and more cracks but again the sex was great i got my dikk sucked like every day, wed go to hotel son the weekend and spend the whole weekend just walking downtown and having sex I was winning right?

anyways I ended up getting cheated on and it was that "loser" hes just a friend ex that she cheated on me with, how did I know? because she gave me a std, and when i keylogger :heh: checked her email she emailed him telling him "How could you" and he was like it was some dirty b*tch at the gym who gave it to him


Anyways brehs I'm not lbaming her I was accountable she was trash and I still partaked in it, that's why the second now I hear about a chick being friends with a dude who she saw naked and loved at one time, or was in them guts :camby:
 

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@CrossBones breh that was just :wow::banderas:

my game sometimes is just sooo rusty :scusthov:that i almost always kill any chance i have with a girl that is initially attracted to me. :mjcry:It goes girl gives me signs, i step up, do or say something....and its a wrap. :sadcam: Just recently i got at this light-skinned british chick at a party few weeks back...and i think i sealed my fate when i dabbled on about irrelevant shyt...rather than being straight to the point and being in and out of the convo within 1-2 mins. I told dis bytch to follow me cuz the music was soo loud and i wanted to talk to her...and she did....but then when i asked for her number :aicmon:I know my nervousness showed :sadcam:

and its funny...the same girls that rejected you or you fukked up with...be the same ones comin at you down the line...but by then you like:camby:

I need to fine tune my approach brehs, but not in the sense that i''ll become outcome dependent but rather that i be calm, direct, short and suave.

@Asantehene @Emperor_ReinScarf @Atlrocafella @kevm3 i guess practice makes perfect?

im prob the most socially awkard person out there, but women seem to find it cute or that im mysterious and ish :manny:

I don't club, drink, go to parties, bars or whatever


I just live by the mantra if a woman is into you, you can be stuttering, fall in a puddle of mud , say a corny joke and she'll like it and find it cute

I remember when I went to BC in the summer and I told that model that I would kiss her when I met her, well I did and of course I didn't kiss her, I was all antsy and ish and didnt even say anything just a mumble jumble hi. It was so bad the first day she left after two hours.

Then she text me later that day like you were so cute and adorable

:shaq:

But that's my personality
 

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may sound cliche but the people who will feel you no homo will feel you and the people who wont shrugs

just like say elementary school you may have had like 30 people in your gr 1 class but only talk to and be friends with like 5

same with women, the ones who will be drawn yto you will, dont worry about the others ones who wont
 

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@CrossBones attracted to me. :mjcry:It goes girl gives me signs, i step up, do or say something....and its a wrap. :sadcam: Just recently i got at this light-skinned british chick at a party few weeks back...and i think i sealed my fate when i dabbled on about irrelevant shyt...rather than being straight to the point and being in and out of the convo within 1-2 mins. I told dis bytch to follow me cuz the music was soo loud and i wanted to talk to her...and she did....but then when i asked for her number :aicmon:I know my nervousness showed :sadcam:


I need to fine tune my approach brehs, but not in the sense that i''ll become outcome dependent but rather that i be calm, direct, short and suave.

@Asantehene @Emperor_ReinScarf @Atlrocafella @kevm3 i guess practice makes perfect?


Ive been the same way before. the problem Id have back in the day is Id talk and talk, whether it was to be funny, to get her to open up about herself, for her to see Im this smart guy blah blah blah ... and wait for this signal. this big opening. the real problem with that is a lot of women operate non-verbally. I think a lot of times back then I was waiting for a verbal cue or something real obvious


but that never really works. thats overthinking things. you dont need to do all that, you need to be in a good space for yourself, bring her in, see if YOU like her (not the other way around) and close the deal. remember, if shes along its because she wants to be a apart of your show, so you have to run it. its not the other way around.


Ive felt a lot better approaching women when I felt like I could take it or leave it. in fact, these days Im more into reading her or through her bs than projecting some kind of impression of me. I dont care to try and show her 'what a great guy I am' to her. validating yourself on a female is pretty much suicide and its the start of the end.


what I learned is that if I hang the flow of a conversation or my attitude on her, it sort of makes things linger and go nowhere. and thats how it will always be. you have to understand women naturally wait a long ass time to say what they want, if they even say it at all. so we cant do that waiting shyt for them. we have to be the ones to say what we want, then its on her to say if shes with it or not. its our job. we have to be able to read things, and be in control of the show
 

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@RealAssanova

may sound cliche but the people who will feel you no homo will feel you and the people who wont shrugs

just like say elementary school you may have had like 30 people in your gr 1 class but only talk to and be friends with like 5

same with women, the ones who will be drawn yto you will, dont worry about the others ones who wont

i kno breh....i kno :salute:

but part of me just feels like i may have missed out on potential azz...cuz i didn't charter into dangerous waters.

i just feel like a nikka like me shud be :shaq:all da time....but i'm not. :sadcam:

i got numbers in my phone of hoes that i cud potentially do summin with.....2 in particular...but it'll just feel like i'm doin too much. One goes to the same uni with me and one i met off the TTC. The ttc one i prolly won't bother wasting time on...but the other....19 yr old, hijabi with an azz....:patrice:and i feel like she wants me seein as how she first stopped me when i was going home to talk....but now :yeshrug::lupe:

she does have my number though :beli:
 

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i kno breh....i kno :salute:

but part of me just feels like i may have missed out on potential azz...cuz i didn't charter into dangerous waters.

i just feel like a nikka like me shud be :shaq:all da time....but i'm not. :sadcam:

i got numbers in my phone of hoes that i cud potentially do summin with.....2 in particular...but it'll just feel like i'm doin too much. One goes to the same uni with me and one i met off the TTC. The ttc one i prolly won't bother wasting time on...but the other....19 yr old, hijabi with an azz....:patrice:and i feel like she wants me seein as how she first stopped me when i was going home to talk....but now :yeshrug::lupe:

she does have my number though :beli:


its hard sometimes. I'm a dry well at the moment, I could holler at the chick I call rich girl whose dad owns a car dealership but :pacspit:, I could holler at that crazy chick wh emails and texts but :pacspit:

silence to the grave is my mantra

its hard when dying of thirst in the desert not to drink that blue antifreeze :kony:, but just gotta be patient

back n the day I'd be on a dating site/app now but I just can't do it anymore, I want something of substance :heh:, something organic, on some going to longos at 10pm and some chick falls on some black ice and im the only one there to help :shaq: type ish
 

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Ive been the same way before. the problem Id have back in the day is Id talk and talk, whether it was to be funny, to get her to open up about herself, for her to see Im this smart guy blah blah blah ... and wait for this signal. this big opening. the real problem with that is a lot of women operate non-verbally. I think a lot of times back then I was waiting for a verbal cue or something real obvious


but that never really works. thats overthinking things. you dont need to do all that, you need to be in a good space for yourself, bring her in, see if YOU like her (not the other way around) and close the deal. remember, if shes along its because she wants to be a apart of your show, so you have to run it. its not the other way around.


Ive felt a lot better approaching women when I felt like I could take it or leave it. in fact, these days Im more into reading her or through her bs than projecting some kind of impression of me. I dont care to try and show her 'what a great guy I am' to her. validating yourself on a female is pretty much suicide and its the start of the end.


what I learned is that if I hang the flow of a conversation or my attitude on her, it sort of makes things linger and go nowhere. and thats how it will always be. you have to understand women naturally wait a long ass time to say what they want, if they even say it at all. so we cant do that waiting shyt for them. we have to be the ones to say what we want, then its on her to say if shes with it or not. its our job. we have to be able to read things, and be in control of the show

i completely agree. Its just, i am not looking for a relationship...i am just lookin for the most efficient and economical means to get the azz...and perhaps what i'm doing wrong is giving off relationship vibes rather than aggressive, potential lover 1st then bf 2nd type vibes..:snoop:

what i noticed that are important when talking to women are...voice projection, eye contact and little to no fidgeting. Then you gotta calibrate your words so that you ain't there long enough to fukk up or short enough where you don't garner much interest in her.

that i kno is gonna take some practice...but i'll nail it. I kno i will. :demonic:
 

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the thing i have trouble understanding is....nikkaz say if you don't act, you miss out on opportunities. But if you do, why don't you almost always get the desired outcome you want? I mean, does the saying "you want something, you go after it...and you'll do whatever it takes to get it" apply to women?

and are women really shy? I have a hard time believing that bullshyt. its 2015, no grown azz woman is shy....cuz if that same shy girl is screaming for trey songz then she should be screaming for me too right? :patrice:

i'm just tryna dispel all these thoughts....cuz this typ'a shyt constantly runs thru my mind and fukks with my mindset.

I need a 1-track mind when it comes to women, but reading and hearing all sorts of shyt about women, makes it really difficult to have one.
you can never control the outcome. i feel what you're saying but i feel like the way to reconcile everything is to not be invested so much in the outcome. this goes for everything in life but i'm gonna keep it about women for this convo.

when you talk about "missed opportunities", you gotta ask yourself, "opportunity for what?" and then ask yourself "why is it an opportunity?". You could want to have a woman for many reason. could be to fukk, could be to build, could be to love, could be to pimp, could be to abuse, could be whatever evil or good depending on who you are and what you stand for. whatever the case, the reason you want her is because you believe she would contribute to your happiness. but you getting the woman (the outcome) should not be the goal. the goal is your happiness. it's not the girl that's making you happy. it's the fact that she's doing XYZ that's helping you be happier. getting a specific woman is not the goal. the goal is to get a woman who does XYZ. Once you start thinking getting Lisa (the outcome) is the goal, you already lost. cause now you've made your happiness dependent on getting a specific woman (something you have slight influence over and no real control over). but if your goal becomes to find a woman you are attracted to who will do XYZ and cooperate then once you see potential, you go after it cause it's actually an opportunity. but if she isn't down for the play, that means her potential to contribute to your happiness is decreasing just by her not cooperating. if she isn't cooperating, why should we consider getting her a "desired outcome"?

it makes sense in my mind but i don't know how to put it into words...
 

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you can never control the outcome. i feel what you're saying but i feel like the way to reconcile everything is to not be invested so much in the outcome. this goes for everything in life but i'm gonna keep it about women for this convo.

when you talk about "missed opportunities", you gotta ask yourself, "opportunity for what?" and then ask yourself "why is it an opportunity?". You could want to have a woman for many reason. could be to fukk, could be to build, could be to love, could be to pimp, could be to abuse, could be whatever evil or good depending on who you are and what you stand for. whatever the case, the reason you want her is because you believe she would contribute to your happiness. but you getting the woman (the outcome) should not be the goal. the goal is your happiness. it's not the girl that's making you happy. it's the fact that she's doing XYZ that's helping you be happier. getting a specific woman is not the goal. the goal is to get a woman who does XYZ. Once you start thinking getting Lisa (the outcome) is the goal, you already lost. cause now you've made your happiness dependent on getting a specific woman (something you have slight influence over and no real control over). but if your goal becomes to find a woman you are attracted to who will do XYZ and cooperate then once you see potential, you go after it cause it's actually an opportunity. but if she isn't down for the play, that means her potential to contribute to your happiness is decreasing just by her not cooperating. if she isn't cooperating, why should we consider getting her a "desired outcome"?

it makes sense in my mind but i don't know how to put it into words...

nah i feel you breh. Maybe that is my issue...tryna get the girl...rather than tryna get the girl to do something (ie. fukk).

in any case, i need to adjust my mouthpiece.
 

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So I'm in Krystal's and this random breh walks in, places his order and is on the phone with some chick he's interested in. He's spitting the truth to her, and a lot of the shyt he says is stuff I've read in here. Cat's on the up and up, saying to this broad that "I'm trying to be honest with you because I like you. Looks attract, but I want to know you are beneath that, your mentality, etc." It got to the point that I agreed with him regularly (he'd say some shyt and be like, "You get where I'm coming from, right?") and it got to the point where I got indirectly roped into the conversation.

Apparently, whoever he's talking to isn't vibing with this kind of honesty and he could not wrap his head around it.

This is a random anecdote, but I say all of that to say that some brehs out there are doing it right, and there's no guarantee that doing it right is going to bring you the woman you deserve.
 
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So I'm in Krystal's and this random breh walks in, places his order and is on the phone with some chick he's interested in. He's spitting the truth to her, and a lot of the shyt he says is stuff I've read in here. Cat's on the up and up, saying to this broad that "I'm trying to be honest with you because I like you. Looks attract, but I want to know you are beneath that, your mentality, etc." It got to the point that I agreed with him regularly (he'd say some shyt and be like, "You get where I'm coming from, right?") and it got to the point where I got indirectly roped into the conversation.

Apparently, whoever he's talking to isn't vibing with this kind of honesty and he could not wrap his head around it.

This is a random anecdote, but I say all of that to say that some brehs out there are doing it right, and there's no guarantee that doing it right is going to bring you the woman you deserve.

being manipulative, aloof, doing sea tricks will win in the short term
 
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