Speak on that
Essential Quick Lil Gems on Dealing with Women
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Speak on that
there are three types of men in a woman's life:
men that wanna fukk her
men that have already fukked her (usually also in the category above)
men that have no interest in fukking her (usually relatives or men that find them unattractive)
a true male friend is like the loch ness monster. people claim to have seen in and it may very well exist but it has yet to be proven. any man that's in either of the first two categories is not a real friend yet women knowing these guys wanna fukk them try to pass them off as friends anyway. the term homebody usually means dude thats plotting on her ass.
busy or not is someone is important to you you'll find time. when you dealing with somebody and they get put on the back burner and you have to give them the excuse of "i've been busy" usually means they don't mean that much to you.Standards are key.
So I called out this teacher girl on whether she was dating other cats, and it turns out she's shy as hell and had been legit busy. Her ex of 5 years cheated on her, so we have that in common, which is nice.
I told her she better not take that out on me, that I got my being a cuckold out of my system and I refuse to be anybody's pin-cushion for vengeance. She's down with that.
Funny thing is, I have the power and respect now in this arrangement.
For now.
i'm sure you know women speak in code and "busy" is typically an excuse not a reason.
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Today is the day I realised I invested alot of time, money, emotion, etc into a female that ultimately wasn't worth it.
I feel like an idiot becase looking back, there were many signs, some more obvious than others. I'm a man so I always look at how accountable FIRST but damn man, still leaving a bitter taste in my mouth.
Anyway, I been following this thread since it began but today is where I really soak in, real, authentic, game tailored for the everyday man.
I feel like an idiot becase looking back, there were many signs, some more obvious than others. I'm a man so I always look at how accountable FIRST but damn man, still leaving a bitter taste in my mouth.
Anyway, I been following this thread since it began but today is where I really soak in, real, authentic, game tailored for the everyday man.
when it comes to women things happen on different levels. women are constantly aware of everything that's going on but as a man you may or may not be aware. i've dealt with females that looking back on it with the knowledge i have now i can clearly see what was happening back then but when i was in the middle of it i had no clue.
male female relationships are always about power and control. its a constant battle and some of the shyt is so subtle. it just takes one mistake to ruin everything.
I didn't mean use gimmicky lines or bullshyt like that nor do I bow down to a chick thinking that she is superior, its just that I heard that online dating is way different than to pick up a chick on the street/ club/ bar.
I ain't searching for love, just another way to get a fukk buddy
speaking of gimmicky lines....My biggest pet peeve is when dudes just make it so blatant and get that cheesy ass "smirk" on their face when they turn around or go up to a chick.
I can't be the only one....that Johnny Bravo look some dudes give chese women is just corny as fukk and embarrassing.
i think that subconsciously a woman sets out to destroy you as a man. she doesn't want to succeed at this but she has to do it just to find out who is real and who isn't. if you let them they will chop off your balls and lead you astray. in terms of relationships women don't wanna be leaders they wanna follow so when they encounter a man they can lead they will lead him, lose all respect for him, and resent him for his inability to lead.
women like to idealize about relationship equality and things being 50-50 but truth is in that state they lose respect for you and resent you. they want you to take charge and be in control. i used to believe in the idealizations women would say like them wanting a nice guy or an equal relationship but i found out over the long term that what women say and think they want and what they actually want and respond to are entirely different. many women don't know what they want until its presented to them.
one of the main reasons simps are so resented by women is because a simp is nothing more than a man following a woman's lead. he's surrendered his power for a shot at her vagina. this is why you never simp. a women will lead you to your own ruin in a relationship then abandon once you arrive there. shyt is like you flying a plane with her and handing her the controls then she sends the plane into a nosedive it can't come out of and then jumps out with the only para shoot.
women like to idealize about relationship equality and things being 50-50 but truth is in that state they lose respect for you and resent you. they want you to take charge and be in control. i used to believe in the idealizations women would say like them wanting a nice guy or an equal relationship but i found out over the long term that what women say and think they want and what they actually want and respond to are entirely different. many women don't know what they want until its presented to them.
one of the main reasons simps are so resented by women is because a simp is nothing more than a man following a woman's lead. he's surrendered his power for a shot at her vagina. this is why you never simp. a women will lead you to your own ruin in a relationship then abandon once you arrive there. shyt is like you flying a plane with her and handing her the controls then she sends the plane into a nosedive it can't come out of and then jumps out with the only para shoot.
You can never piece it all together until you look at it backwards.
Then you get mad at urself and feel like a fool b/c more than likely the woman LIED to you right in your face and you believed it. Even tho you had no reason NOT to disbelieve her, you're still mad at yourself.
Now you KNOW she was wrong for u, a waste of ur time/feelings, and ur glad you got away from her....but some small part of you still likes her.
Considering the way you have to act around MOST(not all) women, ie., you can't really be yourself, you have to be somewhat guarded, you have to maintain a certain aura about you, can't let too much of yourself out...basically you're playing a character......taking all this into consideration, who really wants to do this all the time? I dont understand those dudes who always need to be in a relationship.
And I see why some people say for men not to get married until they're in their mid-late 30's....mainly because, depending on the type of woman you marry, your life is over. And I'm not even talking about you running around with multiple women or going to bars every week.
And I see why some people say for men not to get married until they're in their mid-late 30's....mainly because, depending on the type of woman you marry, your life is over. And I'm not even talking about you running around with multiple women or going to bars every week.
I didn't get around to answering the question, but I will now. I feel the solution is to stop dealing with women who have this entitled attitude. The reason they do what they do is that they are being rewarded regardless of how they act. They won't change until they quit being rewarded for their awful behavior.
The real problem is that these women were told they were sugar and spice and everything nice and they NEVER get chastized for their wrongs. They always have somebody bailing them out for their bad behavior and they end up getting spoiled rotten. How many times have women gone off the heel and started acting crazy, hooping and hollaring and even hitting a man, but the man is supposed to be quiet and just walk away? How often can the woman throw these hissy fits and do all this screaming, but the man is supposed to leave the house that he is probably paying for? That's nonsense.
The problem is you have all these simps defending this behavior and reinforcing the attitude that women can do anything and we're just supposed to just sit around and let her lash out.
Our parents may ask us, why aren't you married. Ask your dad whether he would have married a woman that can't cook, won't clean, has a bunch of male friends that she won't get rid of, has already slept with with 30 guys prior to you meeting her and what do you think he will say?
If all you're doing is having sex and leaving them, of course you will be happy with the status of these modern western women, because many of them give it up easy and they reward men who are noncommital... It's all gravy until you catch an STD or you start getting kids pinned on you which don't even necessarily have to be yours.
I think the big problem a lot of guys are having is that you just can't treat women with respect. I know a lot of men who WANT to treat a woman with respect, but they come to the stark realiziation that doing so will get them put in the provider category while she has some other guy blazing that thing up.You get the best behavior from women by being aloof, noncommital, disrespectful, all the while speaking some smooth gibberish out of your mouth. What's crazy is that you may want to get to know these women, but they don't really want to get to know you. They are more concerned with the image you are projecting. The less you tell them and being vague with your answers makes you mysterious in their eyes.
We sit here and talk about all that must be done to keep these 'modern women' interested, but the reality of the situation is that there is nothing you can really do to keep them interested. You can't keep someone who doesn't want to be kept. Most of these women hold no value on relationships, so you will be engaging in an unwise action getting in one with them. Now what they WILL do is play along with you. They will tell you they want commitment, but will actually punish it. They want the fruits of a relationship such as companionship, someone to listen to their problems, support them financially etc, while they reward the guy that is the opposite of it.
They want a responsible man so they can neglect him, while rewarding some guy that hits it and quits it on the side. More often than not, you got one guy who is paying the bills, listening to her problems, watching her kid, taking her to dinner, taking her to the movies, etc.. she gives that dude the attitude and rations out attention to him... but then she has that 'other dude' she met at the club or at work who talks to her any which way, who she'll let do things she won't let her man do. He plays hard to get, talks disrespectfully to her, might even hit her, etc., but she'll take her man's money and give it to him, let him push her man's car and let him do her any which way sexually.
That's the real dilemma here. You see a woman and you want to treat her respectfully, but you feel cautious because you don't want her to take that kindness the wrong way and try to turn you into a provider. It's so bad you got rules like don't take her to dinner, but take her for coffee instead or don't buy her a drink, and the sad thing is, those rules exist for a reason. It's like you have to do this trickery to maintain her interest, but really, what is her 'interest' worth?
Who really wants to be tethered to someone that unless you act a certain way, they will take advantage of you? Who really wants to be in a relationship with someone that punishes decent behavior? You have all these rules out here because it's true. You help a woman out with her bills, pay for her school, listen to her problems and things of that nature and you'll get used. You come at her like you don't care about all that and you just pretty much want to knock it down, then she rewards you. What kind of sense does that make?
With your friends, you treat them well and they will appreciate it. Let's take even a dog for instance. You treat a dog well and the dog will be friendly and even give up its life for you. That's something that makes sense. You reward decent treatment with loyalty. On the other hand, the modern dating game is like having a dog that will only wag its tail when you're hitting it with a newspaper and screaming at it. When you give the dog a treat and attempt to pet it's head, it will bite you.
When it comes down to it, you have to make a choice as a man. It's tough being you because you are rewarded in the short-term by being her three ring circus act or some immoral guy who is playing her thriller man on the side... but long term? Be you. It will give you WAY MORE peace of mind in the long-term... and you may have to actually get out of here in order to find a woman that was raised on decent values and is actually wifeable.
We've been sitting around here discussing countless solutions and methods to the problem, and the solution is much simpler than you've been expecting. What is it? Don't deal with it? If she's coming with that stank attitude, gotta go, gotta go. Doesn't appreciate what you're doing for her? She needs to keep it pushing... and all in the meanwhile, you're doing the things you love and just loving life. The only way to win is to not put up with her nonsense and demand that she actually brings something to the table. You cannot pay and plead with a woman to make her act right. You have to demand it, and if she doesn't want to bring decent behavior to the table, then you simply tell her she can't eat at the table.
The real problem is that these women were told they were sugar and spice and everything nice and they NEVER get chastized for their wrongs. They always have somebody bailing them out for their bad behavior and they end up getting spoiled rotten. How many times have women gone off the heel and started acting crazy, hooping and hollaring and even hitting a man, but the man is supposed to be quiet and just walk away? How often can the woman throw these hissy fits and do all this screaming, but the man is supposed to leave the house that he is probably paying for? That's nonsense.
The problem is you have all these simps defending this behavior and reinforcing the attitude that women can do anything and we're just supposed to just sit around and let her lash out.
Our parents may ask us, why aren't you married. Ask your dad whether he would have married a woman that can't cook, won't clean, has a bunch of male friends that she won't get rid of, has already slept with with 30 guys prior to you meeting her and what do you think he will say?
If all you're doing is having sex and leaving them, of course you will be happy with the status of these modern western women, because many of them give it up easy and they reward men who are noncommital... It's all gravy until you catch an STD or you start getting kids pinned on you which don't even necessarily have to be yours.
I think the big problem a lot of guys are having is that you just can't treat women with respect. I know a lot of men who WANT to treat a woman with respect, but they come to the stark realiziation that doing so will get them put in the provider category while she has some other guy blazing that thing up.You get the best behavior from women by being aloof, noncommital, disrespectful, all the while speaking some smooth gibberish out of your mouth. What's crazy is that you may want to get to know these women, but they don't really want to get to know you. They are more concerned with the image you are projecting. The less you tell them and being vague with your answers makes you mysterious in their eyes.
We sit here and talk about all that must be done to keep these 'modern women' interested, but the reality of the situation is that there is nothing you can really do to keep them interested. You can't keep someone who doesn't want to be kept. Most of these women hold no value on relationships, so you will be engaging in an unwise action getting in one with them. Now what they WILL do is play along with you. They will tell you they want commitment, but will actually punish it. They want the fruits of a relationship such as companionship, someone to listen to their problems, support them financially etc, while they reward the guy that is the opposite of it.
They want a responsible man so they can neglect him, while rewarding some guy that hits it and quits it on the side. More often than not, you got one guy who is paying the bills, listening to her problems, watching her kid, taking her to dinner, taking her to the movies, etc.. she gives that dude the attitude and rations out attention to him... but then she has that 'other dude' she met at the club or at work who talks to her any which way, who she'll let do things she won't let her man do. He plays hard to get, talks disrespectfully to her, might even hit her, etc., but she'll take her man's money and give it to him, let him push her man's car and let him do her any which way sexually.
That's the real dilemma here. You see a woman and you want to treat her respectfully, but you feel cautious because you don't want her to take that kindness the wrong way and try to turn you into a provider. It's so bad you got rules like don't take her to dinner, but take her for coffee instead or don't buy her a drink, and the sad thing is, those rules exist for a reason. It's like you have to do this trickery to maintain her interest, but really, what is her 'interest' worth?
Who really wants to be tethered to someone that unless you act a certain way, they will take advantage of you? Who really wants to be in a relationship with someone that punishes decent behavior? You have all these rules out here because it's true. You help a woman out with her bills, pay for her school, listen to her problems and things of that nature and you'll get used. You come at her like you don't care about all that and you just pretty much want to knock it down, then she rewards you. What kind of sense does that make?
With your friends, you treat them well and they will appreciate it. Let's take even a dog for instance. You treat a dog well and the dog will be friendly and even give up its life for you. That's something that makes sense. You reward decent treatment with loyalty. On the other hand, the modern dating game is like having a dog that will only wag its tail when you're hitting it with a newspaper and screaming at it. When you give the dog a treat and attempt to pet it's head, it will bite you.
When it comes down to it, you have to make a choice as a man. It's tough being you because you are rewarded in the short-term by being her three ring circus act or some immoral guy who is playing her thriller man on the side... but long term? Be you. It will give you WAY MORE peace of mind in the long-term... and you may have to actually get out of here in order to find a woman that was raised on decent values and is actually wifeable.
We've been sitting around here discussing countless solutions and methods to the problem, and the solution is much simpler than you've been expecting. What is it? Don't deal with it? If she's coming with that stank attitude, gotta go, gotta go. Doesn't appreciate what you're doing for her? She needs to keep it pushing... and all in the meanwhile, you're doing the things you love and just loving life. The only way to win is to not put up with her nonsense and demand that she actually brings something to the table. You cannot pay and plead with a woman to make her act right. You have to demand it, and if she doesn't want to bring decent behavior to the table, then you simply tell her she can't eat at the table.
"Many unmarried young women with an N count greater than one or two will argue vociferously that their N doesn't matter and should not be taken into account by men who are considering them as potential wives. But the reality is that the known male distaste for seconds, or twentieths, as the case may be, is well-justified in terms of an increased probability of future infidelity as well as the fact that his wife will likely compare him unfavorably to one or more of her previous lovers:
Many women are looking back with longing on past relationships, admitting sex was better with their ex than their current partner. A total of 38 per cent of women confessed in a recent survey that they had the best sex of lives in a previous relationship. Meanwhile just 29 per cent of men said their best sex was with an ex....
'They don't regret not choosing them as long-term mates, but they do miss the great sex they had. Women don't tend to marry the guy they had great sex with. They marry for more 'sensible' attributes - like whether he'll be loyal and a good father. I get lots of emails from women saying they love their husbands but fantasise about sex with their exes."
Read more: Alpha Game: She's probably had better
Many women are looking back with longing on past relationships, admitting sex was better with their ex than their current partner. A total of 38 per cent of women confessed in a recent survey that they had the best sex of lives in a previous relationship. Meanwhile just 29 per cent of men said their best sex was with an ex....
'They don't regret not choosing them as long-term mates, but they do miss the great sex they had. Women don't tend to marry the guy they had great sex with. They marry for more 'sensible' attributes - like whether he'll be loyal and a good father. I get lots of emails from women saying they love their husbands but fantasise about sex with their exes."
Read more: Alpha Game: She's probably had better
Went on a second date with a kindergarten teacher. We were meeting at the movies and I was running a bit late, 10 mins. or so. I got there and couldn't find her. I went to the automated ticket purchasing thing, but she came up to me and said not to, she went ahead and bought us tickets and food. 
Brehs, stuff like this is
Brehs, stuff like this is
"But now, mostly when I think back to that time, I remember it as a time of immense loneliness, of being angry most of the time, of having no choice, of abuse, of boredom, no freedom, of basically, being an indentured servant. When I first got separated there was this strange period of listlessness, or not belonging to that class anymore, of being alone, the strangeness of being in bars again after years of being married., of not having anywhere to go or anything to do.
But now, I wouldn’t go back for anything. Maybe there are moments when I wish it was like it was, but they do pass. I couldn’t wish being married on any man. My opinion is that everything about it was something I wish I could have skipped over. I wouldn’t have the kids I have but frankly the negative experience as a husband more than outweighed the positive experience of the children. My life was so much more meaningful before and after. Being married was such a waste of time. Maybe I was more successful because I was married but it came at such a price, I would have rather not had that success.
I feel sorry for the Christians that read this blog, that doctrinally, sacramental sex is the only acceptable sex that they might have.
Because to me, the only sane response to modern women is the purest form of Game, pump them, dump them. When I justify game, in my mind, is that it allows a man the ability fight off the dopamine addiction that accompanies intimacy with a woman. By having multiple women in his life, or the self confidence that he is able to replace any woman with a short interval between them, and by being aware that the feelings he is having is really just a chemical reaction and not any deeper connection, that women are basically shyt and some grief that is just waiting to happen, then he is able to fight off OneItis, and avoid marriage. The accusation that Game teaches men not to love women and to think of them as some kind of “it” is to me the best thing about Game. It is absolutely stupid to love women. Pump them, dump. Don’t be a fool and love them.
Maybe there is something to the theory of the Magic Vagina having incredible effect on the progress of men and that without women, that men will flounder and fail.
Maybe it necessary for men to be married and then divorce to truly appreciate that a life without women is a happy life merely on the definition that if you are not unhappy, then you are happy.
But I would rather flounder and fail by some societal definition of failure and drift along, just getting by, then to be married. I would go as far as recommending floundering and failure to a young man as a career aim so as to insure that no woman ever picks him as a potential husband. I tend to concur with your belief that women drive marriage and that if they set their sights on marrying a man, that he is generally unable to withstand her attempt if he has a typical beta personality. A lack of success would immunize him from her target him with her marriage infection, the ultimate in Sexually Transmitted Diseases, one that damages his mental health.
My advice to a young man is that he should learn Game as opposed to preparing to be successful. I mean deep game, cold readings of personality, charm, dominance cues, conversational skill, female psychology, and then hit the streets and approach. And that he do this is lieu of other study. By not having those financial assets and attributes that are so important to women, then he insures that he would never be selected to be trapped in marriage.
I can see no upside to having a deep relationship with a woman. It almost always is going to turn out bad for the men. It was not only the marriage, but all of the relationships had a negative cost. I wish I would have known then what I know now and I would “Next”ed every woman after a month or two. Every one. I would have never considered any one of them as any more than a short term means of recreation. Women are never your friend. They can and will wound in ways that no man ever can, that no friend ever would.
So to me the downside of any success that man would have is that it makes him susceptible to being chosen as potential husband. The only thing that men need any money other than what is necessary to subsist is to have a woman. And having a woman is the biggest jeopardy to happiness that a man will ever have. It is a ticket to slavery.
A man would be far better learning game, putting on a front, letting the woman believe what she wants and then leaving her before she found out that you were not what you seemed to be or laughing it off when she did find out, and going on the next women.
So if you want to be happy in life, be a failure. Success will bring you nothing but unhappiness. I have been both a success and a failure, and failure was a far far more pleasant experience than success. Success brought women and women brought misery and unhappiness. Failure was a repellant to women and I ended up happy by not being unhappy.
And free."
Falling in love is like procrastination. It feels good while you are doing it, but you will pay for it later.
But now, I wouldn’t go back for anything. Maybe there are moments when I wish it was like it was, but they do pass. I couldn’t wish being married on any man. My opinion is that everything about it was something I wish I could have skipped over. I wouldn’t have the kids I have but frankly the negative experience as a husband more than outweighed the positive experience of the children. My life was so much more meaningful before and after. Being married was such a waste of time. Maybe I was more successful because I was married but it came at such a price, I would have rather not had that success.
I feel sorry for the Christians that read this blog, that doctrinally, sacramental sex is the only acceptable sex that they might have.
Because to me, the only sane response to modern women is the purest form of Game, pump them, dump them. When I justify game, in my mind, is that it allows a man the ability fight off the dopamine addiction that accompanies intimacy with a woman. By having multiple women in his life, or the self confidence that he is able to replace any woman with a short interval between them, and by being aware that the feelings he is having is really just a chemical reaction and not any deeper connection, that women are basically shyt and some grief that is just waiting to happen, then he is able to fight off OneItis, and avoid marriage. The accusation that Game teaches men not to love women and to think of them as some kind of “it” is to me the best thing about Game. It is absolutely stupid to love women. Pump them, dump. Don’t be a fool and love them.
Maybe there is something to the theory of the Magic Vagina having incredible effect on the progress of men and that without women, that men will flounder and fail.
Maybe it necessary for men to be married and then divorce to truly appreciate that a life without women is a happy life merely on the definition that if you are not unhappy, then you are happy.
But I would rather flounder and fail by some societal definition of failure and drift along, just getting by, then to be married. I would go as far as recommending floundering and failure to a young man as a career aim so as to insure that no woman ever picks him as a potential husband. I tend to concur with your belief that women drive marriage and that if they set their sights on marrying a man, that he is generally unable to withstand her attempt if he has a typical beta personality. A lack of success would immunize him from her target him with her marriage infection, the ultimate in Sexually Transmitted Diseases, one that damages his mental health.
My advice to a young man is that he should learn Game as opposed to preparing to be successful. I mean deep game, cold readings of personality, charm, dominance cues, conversational skill, female psychology, and then hit the streets and approach. And that he do this is lieu of other study. By not having those financial assets and attributes that are so important to women, then he insures that he would never be selected to be trapped in marriage.
I can see no upside to having a deep relationship with a woman. It almost always is going to turn out bad for the men. It was not only the marriage, but all of the relationships had a negative cost. I wish I would have known then what I know now and I would “Next”ed every woman after a month or two. Every one. I would have never considered any one of them as any more than a short term means of recreation. Women are never your friend. They can and will wound in ways that no man ever can, that no friend ever would.
So to me the downside of any success that man would have is that it makes him susceptible to being chosen as potential husband. The only thing that men need any money other than what is necessary to subsist is to have a woman. And having a woman is the biggest jeopardy to happiness that a man will ever have. It is a ticket to slavery.
A man would be far better learning game, putting on a front, letting the woman believe what she wants and then leaving her before she found out that you were not what you seemed to be or laughing it off when she did find out, and going on the next women.
So if you want to be happy in life, be a failure. Success will bring you nothing but unhappiness. I have been both a success and a failure, and failure was a far far more pleasant experience than success. Success brought women and women brought misery and unhappiness. Failure was a repellant to women and I ended up happy by not being unhappy.
And free."
Falling in love is like procrastination. It feels good while you are doing it, but you will pay for it later.
You can never piece it all together until you look at it backwards.
Then you get mad at urself and feel like a fool b/c more than likely the woman LIED to you right in your face and you believed it. Even tho you had no reason NOT to disbelieve her, you're still mad at yourself.
Now you KNOW she was wrong for u, a waste of ur time/feelings, and ur glad you got away from her....but some small part of you still likes her.
The sad truth.
