Essential Random Gym Thoughts Revisited...

[Son Goku]

How do you think steriod users get the results they get? They don't inject themselves with excess protein. They inject themselves with excess Human Growth Hormone (HGH) and excess testosterone. Its these hormones that trigger our bodies to grow muscle and lose body fat. The more you have the more fat loss and muscle building you get. The lower the levels the less gains you make.

The best way to try and do naturally what steroids users do unnaturally is to manipulate your body's natural hormone levels in this manner. Fasting for 3 days for example leads to a 300% increase in growth hormone levels naturally: 11 Ways to Boost Human Growth Hormone (HGH) Naturally).

What I do is to train smart. And the smartest way to train is to work with your hormones not against them. By eating once every 3 days I am optimizing the amount of HGH and testosterone my body can produce naturally. This is why I can still build muscle and loss body fat while being on a pretty substantial caloric eating deficit.

Your hormones have a much bigger effect on your body composition than how much you exercise or how much food you eat. Learn to optimize your hormones and you'll reach the natural limits of your body when it comes to lean muscle mass.

Post verifiable vids of you doing anything remotely impressive and then I'll listen.

Bench 315+, squat 4 plates, pull 5, eat 6000 calories in one sitting, etc. Something that would make any of us actually wanna take you serious.

Until then...

 

[Swagnificent]

Why the fukk would one make a chore out of eating by stuffing it in until you feel sick ?every couple days ?

For the hormonal benefits that come from fasting.

When you fast for 2-3 days at a time you drive up your body's natural levels of HGH (human growth hormone) up 300% to 1,250%. If you don't know what HGH is, its what a lot of steriod users inject to get unnatural results. By fasting I am optimizing my body's natural levels of HGH to build muscle and lose body fat.

I force feed myself all that food because the body still needs the nutrients from food to build muscle. So in that one sitting I am trying to give my body 3 days worth of nutrients knowing I will be fasting. Its all about optimizing results.

Its also why I only workout twice a week. I am optimizing my rest intervals because recovery is the most important aspect when building muscle. You really only need to work each muscle 2 times a week for the best results. The rest, recovery, nutrition, and fasting are more important than spending another day in the gym.

 

[Swagnificent]

Muscle does not grow without stimulus and protein to build and repair. When YOU don’t eat and only train twice a week you are not getting these actions.

You just engaged me in a page long discussion over exactly how much food I could eat in one sitting. Now I don't eat anymore? Da fukk?

Don't tell me you're one of these idiots that has a protein shake with them at the gym think you need to eat right after a workout to make gains?

If you eat meats and fish (aka real protein sources from whole foods), it typically takes 24-72 hours for your body to fully disgest that meal and to release those branch chain amino acids into your blood stream so they can be used for protein synthesis. I specifically target my workouts for 24-36 hours after I eat for this very reason. Its around this time that the protein rich foods I just ate will be in my bloodstream ready to build muscle.

My nikka. I've researched these topics throughly. I have been experimenting and trying to perfect this for months. When I eat and when I workout have been specifically thought of to take advantage of that muscle building window when the nutrients and amino acids from my meal are in my bloodstream.

 

[The ADD]

You just engaged me in a page long discussion over exactly how much food I could eat in one sitting. Now I don't eat anymore? Da fukk?

Don't tell me you're one of these idiots that has a protein shake with them at the gym think you need to eat right after a workout to make gains?

If you eat meats and fish (aka real protein sources from whole foods), it typically takes 24-72 hours for your body to fully disgest that meal and to release those branch chain amino acids into your blood stream so they can be used for protein synthesis. I specifically target my workouts for 24-36 hours after I eat for this very reason. Its around this time that the protein rich foods I just ate will be in my bloodstream ready to build muscle.

My nikka. I've researched these topics throughly. I have been experimenting and trying to perfect this for months. When I eat and when I workout have been specifically thought of to take advantage of that muscle building window when the nutrients and amino acids from my meal are in my bloodstream.

Post the research that supports this.

 

[Swagnificent]

Post verifiable vids of you doing anything remotely impressive and then I'll listen.

Bench 315+, squat 4 plates, pull 5, eat 6000 calories in one sitting, etc. Something that would make any of us actually wanna take you serious.

Until then...

I don't care if you do what I do. I'm not here to prove anything. I'm simply sharing my experiences. If you want to try it go ahead. I'm about educating not preaching.

 

[Swagnificent]

Post the research that supports this.

A simple google search is all you need dumbass. Just search "how long does it take to digest meat?" You'll get results like this: How Long Does It Take to Digest Food?

Its not that complicated. Everyone knows it takes at least a day for the body to process whatever you eat. Its why some body builders say the meal you ate last night is what fuels your recovery today.

I hope you weren't actually dumb enough to think the food you ate today was going to have any effect on your workout today.

Its always been the meal you ate yesterday that affects your workout and recovery today.

 

[The ADD]

A simple google search is all you need dumbass. Just search "how long does it take to digest meat?" You'll get results like this: How Long Does It Take to Digest Food?

Its not that complicated. Everyone knows it takes at least a day for the body to process whatever you eat. Its why some body builders say the meal you ate last night is what fuels your recovery today.

I hope you weren't actually dumb enough to think the food you ate today was going to have any effect on your workout today.

Its always been the meal you ate yesterday that affects your workout and recovery today.

Nice try fukk boy. Post ALL of the research that has led you to conclude that eating every 3 days and working out twice a week is allowing you to build muscle via hormone optimization.

Also read your own article simpleton that time period goes from eating to release of waste. Nutrient extraction does not take 72 full hours

 

[Son Goku]

Its why some body builders say the meal you ate last night is what fuels your recovery today.

I hope you weren't actually dumb enough to think the food you ate today was going to have any effect on your workout today.

Its always been the meal you ate yesterday that affects your workout and recovery today.

Them bodybuilders only eating every three days too?

I don't care if you do what I do. I'm not here to prove anything. I'm simply sharing my experiences. If you want to try it go ahead. I'm about educating not preaching.

 

[Swagnificent]

Nutrient extraction does not take 72 full hours

No shyt. Did you think I only read one article on this? I just gave you that link as a starting point. I read a lot of other sources to gain an overview of the digestive process. Looking at the scholarship, the exact time it takes for food to be digested depends on which nutrients the food contains and the quantity of the meal. If you eat a meal that is high in fat for example then you will have slower digestion and nutrient absorption than a meal that is low on fat. Also meals that are really high in fiber and contain complex protein sources like meat and fish tend to take a bit longer to digest.

I eat a really big meal that is high in fat and fiber. So for me, given my specific eating style, nutrient absorption is on the slower side. It definitely doesn't take 72 hours. It probably starts around 16-20 hours for me which is why I like to target my workouts for be around 24 hours after I eat. You might be wondering how I could know that? Well its very simple. At around 16 hours after I've eaten my huge meal, my stomach is no longer inflated like I'm hiding a balloon under there. I use my stomach as the guide. Once the food has left the stomach completely and entered the small intestine then I'm sure nutrient absorption has started so I target my workout for that window.

Its all about listening to your body and working with it for optimal results. I listen to my body and it tells me when I need to eat. When I should workout. How long I should sleep. Etc.

 

[The ADD]

No shyt. Did you think I only read one article on this? I just gave you that link as a starting point. I read a lot of other sources to gain an overview of the digestive process. Looking at the scholarship, the exact time it takes for food to be digested depends on which nutrients the food contains and the quantity of the meal. If you eat a meal that is high in fat for example then you will have slower digestion and nutrient absorption than a meal that is low on fat. Also meals that are really high in fiber and contain complex protein sources like meat and fish tend to take a bit longer to digest.

I eat a really big meal that is high in fat and fiber. So for me, given my specific eating style, nutrient absorption is on the slower side. It definitely doesn't take 72 hours. It probably starts around 16-20 hours for me which is why I like to target my workouts for be around 24 hours after I eat. You might be wondering how I could know that? Well its very simple. At around 16 hours after I've eaten my huge meal that my stomach is no longer inflated like I'm hiding a balloon under there. I use my stomach as the guide. Once the food has left the stomach completely and entered the small intestine then I'm sure nutrient absorption has started so I target my workout for that window.

Its all about listening to your body and working with it for optimal results. I listen to my body and it tells me when I need to eat. When I act workout. How long I should sleep. Etc.

A lot of paragraphs but no research about how this method is optimal for muscle gain and training protocol Swag. Don’t take all day with this.

 

[Swagnificent]

Them bodybuilders only eating every three days too?

No because they use steroids. When you use steroids you get the boosts in HGH and testosterone without having to fast.

Now I should note I also go for 3 day fasts for the longevity benefits. I could probably make things easier on myself by eating less on the refeed days and instead doing 48 hour fasts. I would still be getting all the muscle building benefits of the increases in HGH and testosterone. However, I like pushing it to 72 hours because at the 72 hour mark there is an increase in stem cell production in the body. And if you don't remember what stem cells are, they are cells which can be transformed by the body into any type of cell. Typically we have lots of it as children which is what helps us grow. After we get older we have less and less stem cells and its one of the factors that leads to aging. By fasting for 72 hours I am increasing my stem cell levels to where they were when I was younger. That means more cell repairs and replacement with younger healthier cells. That means a longer and healthier lifespan.

So beyond just vanity and wanting to look better. I am also trying to live healthier and longer. That is why I do these 72 hour fasts.

 

[Swagnificent]

A lot of paragraphs but no research about how this method is optimal for muscle gain and training protocol Swag. Don’t take all day with this.

Fukk research. Try it out yourself. You think I've just been doing this for a week? I've basically been eating this way since late December last year. I've used the mirror, scale, and my lifts/strength gains as a guide. In that short time I have gone from some of the worst shape in my time (cause I stopped working out) to the very best shape of my life.

For the record, I didn't even know fasting had all these benefits when I started. I just wanted to complete a 7 day fast as a test to see if I was mentally tough enough to do it. I only made it 4 days before I had to quit. So I failed my test. However, after that first fast, I saw such incredible benefits with my skin that it sparked this new lifestyle. I had lots of people complimented me on looking younger after the fast. They said my skin was looking more radiant. I also felt it just by looking at myself in the mirror. So then I started reading up on how fasting had benefits when it came to longevity and anti-aging. And that's what kick started this whole thing. Then I started to see the fat loss and muscle building benefits and it was on. Haven't looked back since.

I feel like I've found the glitch in the matrix and am trying to help ya'll out with this information. If you don't want it, then so be it. But don't knock it till you try it. It has changed my life.

 

[The ADD]

Fukk research. Try it out yourself. You think I've just been doing this for a week? I've basically been eating this way since late December last year. I've used the mirror, scale, and my lifts/strength gains as a guide. In that short time I have gone from some of the worst shape in my time (cause I stopped working out) to the very best shape of my life.

For the record, I didn't even know fasting had all these benefits when I started. I just wanted to complete a 7 day fast as a test to see if I was mentally tough enough to do it. I only made it 4 days before I had to quit. So I failed my test. However, after that first fast, I saw such incredible benefits with my skin that it sparked this new lifestyle. I had lots of people complimented me on looking younger after the fast. They said my skin was looking more radiant. I also felt it just by looking at myself in the mirror. So then I started reading up on how fasting had benefits when it came to longevity and anti-aging. And that's what kick started this whole thing. Then I started to see the fat loss and muscle building benefits and it was on. Haven't looked back since.

I feel like I've found the glitch in the matrix and am trying to help ya'll out with this information. If you don't want it, then so be it. But don't knock it till you try it. It has changed my life.

More paragraphs, no sources

I've researched these topics throughly.

 

[Swagnificent]

More paragraphs, no sources

If you are actually serious about being educated on this topic then read this book:

Dr. Jason Fung also has a blog he updates regularly and tons of videos on YouTube on everything fasting related. However, I'm guessing you are just interested in an internet tit for tat rather than actually learning something so I expect you to ignore this.

 

[The ADD]

I've researched these topics throughly. I

If you are actually serious about being educated on this topic then read this book:

Dr. Jason Fung also has a blog he updates regularly and tons of videos on YouTube on everything fasting related. However, I'm guessing you are just interested in an internet tit for tat rather than actually learning something so I expect you to ignore this.

I was fasting when your were eating lunch in middle school. Ive done all the research and talked about it on this forum for years.

Fung is a known hack. Further most of his research is geared towards low carb and IF relative those with diabetes. Someone with diabetes does not have the same system in regards to insulin.

Beyond that nothing in his research connects IF with improved training or lean muscle mass building.

So no, I’m not ignoring it because these are subjects I’ve read about and actually done. What I’m waiting on and you continue to fail to produce is any correlation to improvement via your three day fasting/2 day a week lifting.

You passing out half ass advice to posters when you train two times a week is a joke. You just say shyt which you likely don’t do (6000+ cals) and don’t even look at the factors in play.

Swag listen bruh, you can’t run this play on me because I lived IF for years, way longer than you.

So again post any research where your methods connect and produce known tangible muscle building results or STFU.