Essential Quick Lil Gems on Dealing with Women

[Mr Hate Coffee]

It's confusing to me because the majority of the men on this forum say they don't spend any money on women at all and get the p*ssy, so it's making me feel obviously it isn't expected or atleast you shouldn't feel the pressure to do it because apparently women who really like you aren't going expect you the spend a bunch if any money on you, and that they only do that to guys they aren't feeling but trying to take advantage of.

It literally depends on the woman, then it depends on how much she likes you.

I've seen it go all kinds of ways for myself. I've seen super attractive chicks who were into me that were willing to split things and I've seen average chicks who were high maintenance.

I'd actually advise going against the way of being a hardcore "I'm not paying for anything" type guy up front. I'd advise aiming for affordable dates up front, building rapport, making her fall for you and then having the conversation. Even some of the most cool and agreeable chicks I've come across want to be courted in the beginning. After a few dates most of them are way more open to the idea of splitting things or even paying for things themselves. Because in their mind, by paying for things and courting them up front, you've shown the proper amount of interest.

I know people in here may disagree with me but it's different strokes different folks. I know for myself that once I work my charm things go from me pushing to them pulling.

I do think that as a man you should still set expectations for yourself and be no one's pushover. If you want to save on the first dates go to a coffee shop or offer to cook at your place. If you spend on dinner the first time, suggest that they cook for you the next time. etc. No woman should be vehemently opposed to these ideas. If she is then she's too high maintenance and you need to throw her to the bushes.

P.S. The other way (aka the Dirtbag Method) is to do whatever you gotta do to smash and then pull back from there. Once (normal) girls have sex with a guy they are way less likely to end things over something trivial like dinner dates.

 

[Ohene]

I have a first date with a chick from Coffee Meets Bagel tomorrow. She's really fine and seems like a cool chick via the phone.

But this whole process made me realize that women have no idea how much pressure a man is under during the initial stages of courting.

• We have to do the reaching out... either blind asking for a number or initiating messages via dating apps.
• We have to plan a balanced date. Something cool enough to show interest but not overly expensive (for yourself) and not too cheap (for them)
• We really have to work the phone game. Sending texts and calling to keep them interested. The flake percentage before the first meet is super high.

This is also why I think women get screwed later on. When the tables turn and dudes have a lot of options we tend to be like, "fukk all that. You can come to the crib and we can watch a movie. Take it or leave it."

But as always, for women, their currency is their attractiveness. And because she is fine as fukk I'm willing to court her... for now. In this situation I have high currency too. I'm a tall, handsome, black male with multiple degrees, etc. You know, the shyt that women care about. This allows us to meet on an even plane. Hopefully we can get past the bullshyt and get to know each other tho. If she turns out to be cool I'll let her plan the next date to bring balance to the early dating experience.

As far as what we're doing, we're literally going to a FREE art exhibit in the park. She seems super excited. I'm excited as well, I actually look forward to meeting chicks that I can build with.

it's fukked up b

 

[MikelArteta]

I have a first date with a chick from Coffee Meets Bagel tomorrow. She's really fine and seems like a cool chick via the phone.

But this whole process made me realize that women have no idea how much pressure a man is under during the initial stages of courting.

• We have to do the reaching out... either blind asking for a number or initiating messages via dating apps.
• We have to plan a balanced date. Something cool enough to show interest but not overly expensive (for yourself) and not too cheap (for them)
• We really have to work the phone game. Sending texts and calling to keep them interested. The flake percentage before the first meet is super high.

This is also why I think women get screwed later on. When the tables turn and dudes have a lot of options we tend to be like, "fukk all that. You can come to the crib and we can watch a movie. Take it or leave it."

But as always, for women, their currency is their attractiveness. And because she is fine as fukk I'm willing to court her... for now. In this situation I have high currency too. I'm a tall, handsome, black male with multiple degrees, etc. You know, the shyt that women care about. This allows us to meet on an even plane. Hopefully we can get past the bullshyt and get to know each other tho. If she turns out to be cool I'll let her plan the next date to bring balance to the early dating experience.

As far as what we're doing, we're literally going to a FREE art exhibit in the park. She seems super excited. I'm excited as well, I actually look forward to meeting chicks that I can build with.

the beauty is that, if a woman is really feeling you, it doesn't matter what the Hell you do. But I know what you mean in general you have to do this and do that, and esp if she's fine you know theres liek 50 other nikkaz circling around waiting for you to mess up.

 

[Ghanaian Armor]

The only reason you should be spending more than $20-40 max on a 1st date is if the Woman is pre-screened and qualified through friends.

Park is an appropriate 1st date for a random bytch you meet wherever.

In all honestly I do believe a very small minority of the population (10%) do well on online dating. The vast majority of the regular population that stuff usually fizzles out because the beginning is important for Women and if it's not spontaneous it doesn't "spark" her usually.

Hands down the best way to "Win" with minimal effort is to meet a Woman at work. For some occupations this is easier than others. But it could be simple as keeping an eye out for Women who VISIT your job in whatever capacity, whether they are a relative of some guy in another department or what else have you.

When you meet a Woman at work you are at the greatest advantage in your value proposition. You are approaching from a position of authority, resourcefulness and it's your territory.

The problem is Men often pride their ego on creating "something" out of "nothing" with cold approaches and trying to create scenarios outside of the natural flow of human interactions.

When I stopped focusing on techniques and I started focusing on venues, "scenes", groups of people and connections I finally started yielding better quality Women in my search.

Focus less on technique and more on creating optimal circumstances to meet the right type of Woman that you can see yourself being with long term.

 

[Mr Hate Coffee]

the beauty is that, if a woman is really feeling you, it doesn't matter what the Hell you do. But I know what you mean in general you have to do this and do that, and esp if she's fine you know theres liek 50 other nikkaz circling around waiting for you to mess up.

Basically. It's market dynamics, you have to do it.

But yo this chick is showing good signs thus far. She called me today like, "Hey sorry for calling you so early. Just so you know, I'm NOT backing out on you. It's just my allergies are acting up. I don't know what you had planned after the exhibit but I probably won't be able to stay out too late. I just didn't want you thinking that I was cutting our time short because I didn't like you or something"

I told her it was cool. We could grab lunch or get something light like ice cream after. And she suggested we keep it light and grab yogurt or coffee/tea afterwards.

This is some of the most mature early date conversation I've ever had.

 

[McPiff]

brehs...


i just had a dream where my ex and i got back together..........

WOAT feeling ever

 

[MikelArteta]

Basically. It's market dynamics, you have to do it.

But yo this chick is showing good signs thus far. She called me today like, "Hey sorry for calling you so early. Just so you know, I'm NOT backing out on you. It's just my allergies are acting up. I don't know what you had planned after the exhibit but I probably won't be able to stay out too late. I just didn't want you thinking that I was cutting our time short because I didn't like you or something"

I told her it was cool. We could grab lunch or get something light like ice cream after. And she suggested we keep it light and grab yogurt or coffee/tea afterwards.

This is some of the most mature early date conversation I've ever had.

 

[Redguard]

I'm getting tired of my exes texting or calling me randomly asking about hooking back up. Some have even had the nerve to ask me for money. I used to be a simp in my younger days but now I only give money to people I trust and know they will pay me back or return the favor down the line.

 

[Mr Hate Coffee]

brehs...


i just had a dream where my ex and i got back together..........

WOAT feeling ever

I been there too many times breh. Scumbag Brain fukking with you as usual.

Have you wakin' up like

 

[PinotNoir]

Guys be careful, I had a discussion with a girl(29) I work with about her using a guy. She said it's okay that she take from him because he wants what's between her legs. I asked if they're sleeping together and she says no but that he has everything designer hats, scarves, jeans etc she's just trying to take what she can get. She doesn't think what she is doing is wrong. I advised her to be careful leading him on like that and she called him because she wants a "real man".

I know this is nothing new but still...

 

[McPiff]

I been there too many times breh. Scumbag Brain fukking with you as usual.

Have you wakin' up like

i cant even.... damn fam i had her on my mind since i woke up. i wont text her or even call cause i dont even want to but....

 

[kevm3]

Guys be careful, I had a discussion with a girl(29) I work with about her using a guy. She said it's okay that she take from him because he wants what's between her legs. I asked if they're sleeping together and she says no but that he has everything designer hats, scarves, jeans etc she's just trying to take what she can get. She doesn't think what she is doing is wrong. I advised her to be careful leading him on like that and she called him because she wants a "real man".

I know this is nothing new but still...

That's the type of woman that ends up dealing with one of those loony dudes that flip out because he invested all that money and time in her and got played. More people need to see relationships as something that's mutually beneficial instead of that "I need to get all I can get for myself" attitude that is prevalent today.

 

[PinotNoir]

That's the type of woman that ends up dealing with one of those loony dudes that flip out because he invested all that money and time in her and got played. More people need to see relationships as something that's mutually beneficial instead of that "I need to get all I can get for myself" attitude that is prevalent today.

You said nothing but the truth. I told her why is most people out to take what they can get. She just stared it's selfish behavior. A person like that is a user be it to lovers, friends doesn't matter. Hopefully he doesn't snap on her, I'm trying to turn her around but she's stubborn and me driven.

 

[Redguard]

Guys be careful, I had a discussion with a girl(29) I work with about her using a guy. She said it's okay that she take from him because he wants what's between her legs. I asked if they're sleeping together and she says no but that he has everything designer hats, scarves, jeans etc she's just trying to take what she can get. She doesn't think what she is doing is wrong. I advised her to be careful leading him on like that and she called him because she wants a "real man".

I know this is nothing new but still...

She is going to try that on the wrong dude and it will probably end badly for her.

 

[PinotNoir]

She is going to try that on the wrong dude and it will probably end badly for her.

She won't listen right now. She talks about her god being good to her. Sometimes I just can't with people.