Essential Quick Lil Gems on Dealing with Women

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I need some advice.

I met this girl at my bro college my freshman year. She was a senior at the time and graduated the next semester. Our conversations were brief and lasted no longer than a couple minutes. Fast forwarding to the present. My bro told me she asked how I was and what I been up to. I found her Facebook, added her and she messaged me(she initiated the conversation). Her first message was her saying she was wondering who (blank name) was and seen it was me and asked me about how was I, what I was doing, do I still visit her old school etc.

We exchanged a couple messages so far. She 22/23 on her way to becoming a full time elementary school teacher. She a Christian, don't drink, and mostly listen to gospel and rnb.

How should I play this out? I'm looking for some cues to see where our convo would lead to and whether she is into me or not. I'm kind of oblivious at cues sometimes.

I'm not necessarily trying to smash. I want her, she has potential and rare compared to the hoes I deal with on a daily basis

just ask her out
she wont bne like the ho's you usually mess with so remember to keep that in mind
 

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I need some advice.

I met this girl at my bro college my freshman year. She was a senior at the time and graduated the next semester. Our conversations were brief and lasted no longer than a couple minutes. Fast forwarding to the present. My bro told me she asked how I was and what I been up to. I found her Facebook, added her and she messaged me(she initiated the conversation). Her first message was her saying she was wondering who (blank name) was and seen it was me and asked me about how was I, what I was doing, do I still visit her old school etc.

We exchanged a couple messages so far. She 22/23 on her way to becoming a full time elementary school teacher. She a Christian, don't drink, and mostly listen to gospel and rnb.

How should I play this out? I'm looking for some cues to see where our convo would lead to and whether she is into me or not. I'm kind of oblivious at cues sometimes.

I'm not necessarily trying to smash. I want her, she has potential and rare compared to the hoes I deal with on a daily basis
cmon man dont overthink it. You crossed her mind when she was talking to your homie; she initiated a convo off a facebook ad. Ask her if she's busy and mention that you guys should go grab lunch (not dinner) a coffee or something. Then just work from there breh.
 

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Yep... I realized that once she knows you like her, it's dead. She wants them games, the challenge to see if she can convert a nikka who doesn't give a fukk to actually care. I know a girl I was chillin' with for a second, known her for years, and she had an ex that she swore she'd never fukk with again. He sent her a pic of another girl suckin' his dikk which infuriated her and completely killed any feelings she had for him... it was the ultimate disrespect and she could never even be his friend again...

Guess what...

Even the foulest shyt in the world might be just what you need for these damaged broads. Because it's a boost to their own ego that someone can treat her like shyt, but her p*ssy just might get a nikka to stay the night. Even if it's just that night. Then it's back to weeks of drama and competition with other women to get his full attention, which she's never gonna get.

one is the reason to this is becasue we all want what we cant have. women will rather choose to chase to chase the aint shyt nikka than then the nikka that actually cares. the aint shyt nikka is mostly fukking another hoes while the then nikka that care is not (again we all all want what we can have).

Remind me of this girl i went school with. she was not bad looking when we went to school she has always liked me i could have smashed a 1000 times but never did. at times she would forget about me but after some time she would run back to me :russ:. she would constantly text me get mad when i didn't all of that shyt she even came all the way from another city to see me but i was giving her 0 play. like i said we all want what we cant have.

She told me she when she was together with me she broke up with this nikka just to be with me:mjlol:. i haven't spoken to her in a year i think but i can guarantee if i was to text her right now saying i want to smash i could. The thing with her is she was crazy had family issues and all that shyt which is why i never smashed
 

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:comeon: OK, remember Miss "you're boring"? She sent me a message earlier after I loooong deleted her number. I sent a message back saying who is this? Then she replied giving her full name which I didn't even remember then she said said "I'm so ashamed". I still didn't know who the hell it was so I said she had the wrong number. She replied asking if I'm her friend's cousin, to which I replied yes...then I knew who it was. She said "it seems like u deleted my number" I was like "probably cos I don't use whatsapp as much anymore". She was like "OK, I see" and left it at that.

Funny how you stay on their mind once you hit them with the indifference and apathy. I long moved on from this bullshyt.
 

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:comeon: OK, remember Miss "you're boring"? She sent me a message earlier after I loooong deleted her number. I sent a message back saying who is this? Then she replied giving her full name which I didn't even remember then she said said "I'm so ashamed". I still didn't know who the hell it was so I said she had the wrong number. She replied asking if I'm her friend's cousin, to which I replied yes...then I knew who it was. She said "it seems like u deleted my number" I was like "probably cos I don't use whatsapp as much anymore". She was like "OK, I see" and left it at that.

Funny how you stay on their mind once you hit them with the indifference and apathy. I long moved on from this bullshyt.
that's dating for you
 

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I need some advice.

I met this girl at my bro college my freshman year. She was a senior at the time and graduated the next semester. Our conversations were brief and lasted no longer than a couple minutes. Fast forwarding to the present. My bro told me she asked how I was and what I been up to. I found her Facebook, added her and she messaged me(she initiated the conversation). Her first message was her saying she was wondering who (blank name) was and seen it was me and asked me about how was I, what I was doing, do I still visit her old school etc.

We exchanged a couple messages so far. She 22/23 on her way to becoming a full time elementary school teacher. She a Christian, don't drink, and mostly listen to gospel and rnb.

How should I play this out? I'm looking for some cues to see where our convo would lead to and whether she is into me or not. I'm kind of oblivious at cues sometimes.

I'm not necessarily trying to smash. I want her, she has potential and rare compared to the hoes I deal with on a daily basis
the best way to approach this is to CALL her DO NOT TEXT. if you call her you can hear her voice of tone and you will hear easily if she is really into you or wasting your time. Texting gives women to much space to play games if you call tell her tell her to meet you at place x and time y she will have no excuses. if she doesn't show up or comes up with excuses and doesn't reschedule :camby:. a golden rule is someone who really WANTS to meet you will find time no matter what.


I recently decided to switch up my game i tired to texting these women and being given the runaround and from now on i strictly call them up cut 90% of the bullshyt you deal with texting. when you call them you flip the script on them 99% they will not except you to call them because everyone is so used to texting all the time
 

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:comeon: OK, remember Miss "you're boring"? She sent me a message earlier after I loooong deleted her number. I sent a message back saying who is this? Then she replied giving her full name which I didn't even remember then she said said "I'm so ashamed". I still didn't know who the hell it was so I said she had the wrong number. She replied asking if I'm her friend's cousin, to which I replied yes...then I knew who it was. She said "it seems like u deleted my number" I was like "probably cos I don't use whatsapp as much anymore". She was like "OK, I see" and left it at that.

Funny how you stay on their mind once you hit them with the indifference and apathy. I long moved on from this bullshyt.


your mysterious again, i refuse to play these up and down see saw games women seem to enjoy. :camby:

women think they can treat men like a toy play with it, be entertained etc. once they get bored put you downa nd whenever they feel like it again they can take you up again i say hell no
 

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the best way to approach this is to CALL her DO NOT TEXT. if you call her you can hear her voice of tone and you will hear easily if she is really into you or wasting your time. Texting gives women to much space to play games if you call tell her tell her to meet you at place x and time y she will have no excuses. if she doesn't show up or comes up with excuses and doesn't reschedule :camby:. a golden rule is someone who really WANTS to meet you will find time no matter what.


I recently decided to switch up my game i tired to texting these women and being given the runaround and from now on i strictly call them up cut 90% of the bullshyt you deal with texting. when you call them you flip the script on them 99% they will not except you to call them because everyone is so used to texting all the time
i don't necessarely agree with not texting. i think it depends on whatever you feel most comfortable with. but i agree with the rest of your post. where most dudes lose is that they entertain the games the women play. if you're going into her game, texting or voice won't matter, she'll play you the same cause either way you will allow it. like you said breh, you make a move, she's either down with the play or she offers a better option. if she can't because of XYZ and doesn't initiate a reschedule, she gets benched.
 
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This needs to be said cause im tired of reading some of the post im seeing. This post comes from bradd80 he is a moderator over at sosuave many will like what he says ...and many want . Its kinda long but its worth it .

LESSON IV: CONFIDENT PERSISTENCE AND THE 6 GUIDING PRINCIPLES OF BEING A DON JUAN

Some guys are too quick to next a girl. Every guy has his limits when chasing a girl, make sure you know yours. Understand when it's time to keep trying to win over the girl, and when its time to give up, cut your losses, and move on.

But if you can learn to put up with the flaky behavior, you will find that the key to women, the key to being surrounded by women, the key to being the envy of all your friends, and the key to being a Don Juan... is Confident Persistence.

Confident Persistence (CP) consists of deciding what you want, and going for it... and doing it with a smile, despite the numerous obstacles which you will most likely encounter along the way.

Obstacles could, for example, include things like: she doesn’t return your call, she breaks or reschedules the date, she doesn’t flirt with you or laugh at your jokes, she’s hard to talk to, she seems interested in someone else, and, in general, she doesn’t put herself out or go out of the way to convey that she’s interested in you.

In other words, the obstacles are simply how a girl would act who is not HIGHLY INTERESTED in you.

And the most common mistake that guys make when employing this strategy is NEXTing a woman too soon. They flirt with a woman, and she doesn’t flirt back - NEXT. They leave a message on her machine, and she doesn’t call back - NEXT. They plan a date but she calls at the last minute to cancel - NEXT.

In short, they NEXT any woman who doesn’t display IMMEDIATE HIGH INTEREST.

What’s wrong with this you say?

Well the MISTAKE here is that you’re filtering women based simply upon their INITIAL level of interest in you. You’re filtering women based upon whether they are IMMEDIATELY attracted to you or not.

This is a WEAK strategy and not one employed by a true Don Juan. It reeks of low confidence, a fragile ego, and fear.

And it’s also a BAD strategy.

It’s bad because you’re expecting a woman that you just met, that you may have only talked to for 3 or 4 minutes, or less, to display signs of high interest. You’re expecting some woman that you hardly know, and who hardly knows you, to get excited at the prospect of spending time with you.

So lets talk about a way you can pursue her in such a way that you come across as being DESPERATE, like most of your fellow Non Juans do, like most guys in this world do. Or you can pursue in such a way that you appear CONFIDENT, STRONG, CHARISMATIC... like a Don Juan does.

So let’s talk about how a Don Juan pursues women. Let’s talk about the 6 major characteristics of confident persistence:




A Don Juan is always in complete control of his emotions. He doesn’t get mad when a girl fails to return his call. He doesn’t become depressed when she breaks the date. He doesn’t get jealous when she flirts with some other guy. He doesn’t become irate when she doesn’t show up at the restaurant or she shows up late.

He doesn’t react in any of these ways because he EXPECTS these little annoyances to occur. He understands that women are flaky. Women are moody. Women are illogical and very inconsistent. (Especially women with low to moderate initial interest.)




Some guys are too worried about getting hurt, too worried about being taken advantage of, too worried about being made a fool of, and too worried that things are going to turn out badly... to be very effective at pursuing women.

A Don Juan does not worry about these things. A Don Juan is not afraid of rejection, he’s not afraid of being used, he’s not afraid of looking foolish, and he’s not afraid of failing.

His self-esteem is high and firmly grounded. He’s happy and loving life. And the actions of a few flaky, moody, and illogical ladies are not going to change that. And it’s this base of high self-esteem that gives him the confidence to pursue women that seem to be not all that interested in him.




We expect problems. We expect obstacles. We expect that she probably won’t return our call, or that she’ll cancel the date, or that she won’t show up, etc.

Getting women is not always easy. Sometimes we have to work a little bit. But like they say, anything worth having is worth working for.




One of the main reasons a Don Juan is able to control his emotions, that he doesn’t get upset or worry about things, is that he’s always pursuing numerous women at the same time.

He realizes when he begins his pursuit of any one particular lady, that things may not work out. He may never get her and he’s fully prepared to deal with the situation. So he has other options.

Do you really think you’d sit around worrying, or get upset, or concern yourself with "protecting your ego" if you had a date with Susan on Wednesday, a date with Kelly on Friday, two other women calling you all the time, and a stack of 9 or 10 different phone numbers sitting on your dresser?

Of course not, you’d be relaxed and confident. When a girl doesn’t return your call, it wouldn’t faze you a bit. When she cancels at the last minute, you’d feel like laughing. When you see her flirting with some other guy, you’d kick back and enjoy the show.




The fact that women play games and test men does not make them bad people. It just means that they have lots of options (many guys who are interested in them) and they have had to come up with tests (often administered in a non-conscious fashion) as a way of filtering their pursuers into the Average Guys and the Real Men.

For example, she may be very very attracted to you and still not return your phone calls, or she might break a date, or flirt with other guys, or some other such thing. Why?

Because she knows, from years of reading Cosmo and discussing "strategy" with her friends, how to play the game. She knows about playing hard to get, hot and cold, social proof, being busy, etc. And when she finds a man that she really really wants (that would be you, Don Juan), by golly, she’s going to use all these little tricks and techniques to try and keep him.

So don’t let it upset or confuse you. Take it as a compliment that she’s putting in all this effort to keep you interested.




The entire basis for employing CP is knowing that you are, not just a great guy, but the best guy she’s ever going to meet. You KNOW down deep in you soul, that if you could just get a block of her time (a date or two) that you could blow her away and make her forget every other guy she’s ever known.

Beautiful women are everywhere. Go to any mall, or nightclub, or office building, or just walk down a crowded sidewalk. Beautiful women are not that rare. You see them all the time.

But YOU ARE RARE. You’re a Don Juan. How many guys do you think are Don Juans? How many do you think are really good with women? Well, my friend, it’s very very few. That I know for a fact. But if I had to make an educated guess, I’d say maybe 3 out of 100 guys are good with women, and maybe 1 out of 1000 is Don Juan good with women.

Any Bond fan knows that James does not always have immediate success with the ladies. Sometimes the women are not interested in him, sometimes they despise him, sometimes they’re bitter evil enemies, and sometimes they actually want him dead.

Do these "minor" obstacles ever bother James? No way. Whenever a woman acts like she’s uninterested, despises him, or wishes he were dead, what does he do? He just smiles.

He knows that NO WOMAN can resist him... FOR LONG. He knows that he’s special. And he employs all of the above principles of CP to charm and disarm the ladies.

So when playing the field of beautiful ladies, keep the principles of CP in mind: never get upset, forget your ego, don’t be lazy, accept the tests and games, have plenty of options, and, most importantly, always remember that you’re a Don Juan and any lady would be lucky to even have a shot at you.
 

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There was this chick who works out at my gym and recently started working there. Pretty brown skin and with a nice tall athletic body. She always talking to me and such.

One day when she was working ,we were talking for like 10 minutes I ended up giving her my number when it started getting busy at the gym. Did I mess up by giving instead of getting the number? My phone was in the car. She never hit me up. Then today she tried to convo with me and I'm just giving her lukewarm convo. She asked what's wrong and I gave her some bs and KIM.

So according to the article I'm supposed to ask her why she didn't contact me and then get her number?

My approach I just forgetting the whole ordeal is a defeatist attitude?

Chime in your opinions....:pachaha:
 

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There was this chick who works out at my gym and recently started working there. Pretty brown skin and with a nice tall athletic body. She always talking to me and such.

One day when she was working ,we were talking for like 10 minutes I ended up giving her my number when it started getting busy at the gym. Did I mess up by giving instead of getting the number? My phone was in the car. She never hit me up. Then today she tried to convo with me and I'm just giving her lukewarm convo. She asked what's wrong and I gave her some bs and KIM.

So according to the article I'm supposed to ask her why she didn't contact me and then get her number?

My approach I just forgetting the whole ordeal is a defeatist attitude?

Chime in your opinions....:pachaha:


Face to face convo is the most effective. Ask her straight up and you'll get an answer and tell by her body language if she's just b.s.ing you or not.
No need to let that take up too much space in your mind thinking about it. If a chik doesn't hit u up, most likely someone else is in the pic. We wanna be naive to think so, but a majority of time thats what it is. :manny:
 

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I'mma have to disagree with that article. The dude at the end says the broad is lucky to have him, but he's the one putting up with all her disrespect. As you get older, you're going to see if you allow yourself to be a back-up type dude, that's exactly how you get treated. When you keep on pursuing a woman who flakes, puts you in the background, etc., sure, you may eventually get a little bit of her time, but there's another dude out there who has to do none of that and she'll rush to him. I don't believe in suffering for these broads and being a vagina vulture. They're the reason a lot of women act the way they do... because they have endless options of dudes hovering around who are willing to put up with their flakes and disrespect who they can still contact later.

Also, this one broad who is playing Ms. Difficult, there's another one over here who is ecstatic to see me and is willing to go immediately any time I invite her out... why would I waste time rewarding the former with my time and attention?
 

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I'mma have to disagree with that article. The dude at the end says the broad is lucky to have him, but he's the one putting up with all her disrespect. As you get older, you're going to see if you allow yourself to be a back-up type dude, that's exactly how you get treated. When you keep on pursuing a woman who flakes, puts you in the background, etc., sure, you may eventually get a little bit of her time, but there's another dude out there who has to do none of that and she'll rush to him. I don't believe in suffering for these broads and being a vagina vulture. They're the reason a lot of women act the way they do... because they have endless options of dudes hovering around who are willing to put up with their flakes and disrespect who they can still contact later.

Also, this one broad who is playing Ms. Difficult, there's another one over here who is ecstatic to see me and is willing to go immediately any time I invite her out... why would I waste time rewarding the former with my time and attention?

i agree
I think men are quick to "next" aka walk away because they have dealt with enough women in life to realize if a woman is distant or showing the signs to walk away with your head held high.

I know for me I'm 29, i've messed with enough women, and the majority follow the same script, if they flake, to busy, the txt and phone calls stop, there getting distant. I know its time for me to prepare for teh end.

After the first few times the hope of her "coming around", she's just "going through things everythign will be fine shortly" are just :mjlol:

And yep while your doing everything, playing these back and forth games there is a guy out there who can jus send a 2am text i'm coming over and have her in the palm of his eyes
 
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