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Injured something.. :francis:

Don’t really know what to do . It’s a pain that’s under my rib cage. I feel the pain when I take a deep breath and hold it. It don’t feel like bruised ribs it’s closer to the sternum . I went and got tested for corona thinking it was something to do with that. I tested negative


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Today's workout
5 min on rower
5 x 225 12 reps
1 Set 12 255
4 hammer curls 50 lbs
4 sets 10 weightvest/ heavybag squats
Core circuit
1/2 mile run
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He actually trains hard so IF (which he was already doing) isn’t the best idea.

Thats the problem with throwing out any advice just on a whim without knowing or asking about other factors being involved.

I just trained for 2 hours in the gym yesterday at around 36 hours fasted. Contrary to what bodybuilders have been saying for years, you actually can train better and harder on an empty stomach fasted than you will fed. And when you train fasted you get a much better hormonal response to the workout which means more gains.

For optimal muscle building its best to NOT EAT 24 hours BEFORE and AFTER your workout. By fasting for 24 hours before your workout, you drive up your levels of growth hormone and testosterone. This will give you more energy in the gym. Then by fasting for the next 24 hours you keep your levels of growth hormone and testosrone high which is what helps build more muscle.

The second you eat you lower your growth hormone levels thus affecting your body's ability to build muscle. Steroid users are the ones who have sold the public on the lie you need to be eating all the time to build muscle. They use drugs that artificially boosts their levels of growth hormone and testosterone which is why they can get away with eating all the time and building muscle. Us naturals need to fast in order to get the optimal hormonal response to build muscle.
 
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I guarantee it’s not helping ‍

Fasted workouts are the best way to lose body fat. After you deplete your body's muscle and liver glycogen, you'll be burning pure body fat for energy. People who eat and then workout don't realize they'll never get to their stored fat reserves as long as their liver and muscle glycogen are full.

@nawlinsnfinest you are on the right track by training fasted. With that said make sure you start out first with very intense weight training before any cardio. The key is you want to deplete the glycogen in your muscles first so that the body then has to go to its stored fat reserves. Then you want to do some low intensity cardio like walking to trigger fat burning. Intense cardio like HIIT targets the same muscle glycogen as weight training. To target fat you don't need to be doing intense cardio.

Also its key you fast for at least 16+ hours before your workout. That way you have depleted most of the glycogen from your liver. Unless the liver glycogen is depleted, you will not burn the stored fat reserves. This is why working out in a fasted state is so great for fat loss. Your body has no choice but to use its stored fat reserves. You deplete the liver glycogen through fasting. And then you deplete the muscle glycogen by weight training. After that all your body has left to use for energy is its stored fat reserves.
 

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I just trained for 2 hours in the gym yesterday at around 36 hours fasted. Contrary to what bodybuilders have been saying for years, you actually can train better and harder on an empty stomach fasted than you will fed. And when you train fasted you get a much better hormonal response to the workout which means more gains.

For optimal muscle building its best to NOT EAT 24 hours BEFORE and AFTER your workout. By fasting for 24 hours before your workout, you drive up your levels of growth hormone and testosterone. This will give you more energy in the gym. Then by fasting for the next 24 hours you keep your levels of growth hormone and testosrone high which is what helps build more muscle.

The second you eat you lower your growth hormone levels thus affecting your body's ability to build muscle. Steroid users are the ones who have sold the public on the lie you need to be eating all the time to build muscle. They use drugs that artificially boosts their levels of growth hormone and testosterone which is why they can get away with eating all the time and building muscle. Us naturals need to fast in order to get the optimal hormonal response to build muscle.

Fast for a day and a half for better gains, brehs. :mjlol:
 
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You ain’t been on a tangible plan a week bro.

2200 - 2300 cals a week (Minimum 215 G protein a day), 3-4 Meals per day. Run that for a solid month and I bet see improvement scale and mirror.

This is the worst advice possible. Eating 3-4 meals a day means his insulin levels are always high. And its insulin that controls whether your body is storing fat or burning it. He could eat those same 2300 calories on a one meal a day protocol and lose more weight than he would following your silly plan of eating 3-4 times a day.

Just because you have a fast metabolism and can get away with that sort of eating frequency doesn't mean everyone else can. The reason so many Americans are overweight is because they eat far too often. There is no need to eat 3-4 times a day. Our ancestors definitely didn't eat that often. They were lucky to eat once a day. And its in that climate our bodies evolved. One in which we were not eating 3-4 times a day.
 
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Fast for a day and a half for better gains, brehs. :mjlol:

The key is the timing and amount of food intake. I usually eat huge meals on my refeed days. I'm talking 6,000+ calories in one sitting. Those meals are also incredibly nutrient dense. I eat almost entirely natural foods (i.e. fruits, vegetables, and meats). Given the caloric density of the meals I eat it typically takes my body a minimum of 24-48 hours to fully digest the food I eat. Thus the earliest I can even workout is roughly 20-24 hours after my meal.

I also eat lots of carbs in the form of spaghetti or bread. Its those carbs that give me energy in the gym. When you eat carbs what your body does is store about 100 grams of it your muscles in the form of glycogen. Its that stored energy in the muscles that gives me the energy to workout in the gym eventhough I've been fasting for 24+ hours.

This all works out great for me because by the time I go to sleep that night after the workout, all those nutrients I ate the previous day are just entering my bloodstream ready to be used by my body to repair muscle. And because all my hormones are at their optimal levels due to fasting, my body is gonna be building muscle at record pace.

If you can eat a lot in one sitting like I can, then the 72 hour fast is the best way to stay lean and build muscle at the same time. Its using your body's natural hormones to their full capacity.
 

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This is the worst advice possible. Eating 3-4 meals a day means his insulin levels are always high. And its insulin that controls whether your body is storing fat or burning it. He could eat those same 2300 calories on a one meal a day protocol and lose more weight than he would following your silly plan of eating 3-4 times a day.

Just because you have a fast metabolism and can get away with that sort of eating frequency doesn't mean everyone else can. The reason so many Americans are overweight is because they eat far too often. There is no need to eat 3-4 times a day. Our ancestors definitely didn't eat that often. They were lucky to eat once a day. And its in that climate our bodies evolved. One in which we were not eating 3-4 times a day.
That’s categorically wrong Swag and you don’t have any tangible proof to back it up. IF is not a better diet when protein and calories are the same compared to any other calorie restriction diet. Insulin isn’t his problem. He’s not diabetic (that we are aware of) and he has a decent amount of muscle mass so he’s probably more insulin sensitive which is good. Insulin also shuttles nutrients into the muscles which is a good thing.

Please stop trying to pass out half ass advice based on one element of what insulin does. The net fat loss is going to be generally the same in healthy populations 3-5 meals vs. one meal. Further it’s just plan silly to suggest that he should eat one meal a day at 2,300 calories. Very doubtful he can do that and stay with at least .8 grams of protein to help maintain his current level of muscle. Also he does a higher intensity level of training so the idea of him eating one meal a day doesn’t serve him well.

This ain’t the forum to spout your BS Swag. Nothing you are saying is based on a tangible study. We don’t do that shyt in here and you are outright lying in some instances.

And before you come in here typing paragraphs, post proof of these 6,000 calorie meals that are nutrient dense. Prove that first and then we will move on to the rest of your falsehoods.
 
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And before you come in here typing paragraphs, post proof of these 6,000 calorie meals that are nutrient dense. Prove that first and then we will move on to the rest of your falsehoods.

So two days ago this is what I ate in one sitting:

(1) 4 large homemade cheeseburgers with homemade buns, basil pesto dressing, spinach, and tomatoes
(2) A cereal bowl filled with homemade cooked chickpeas
(3) 6 hard-bioled eggs
(4) Two large whole avocados
(5) 8 oz. of sauted white mushrooms with cooked spinach
(6) 2 baked sweet potatoes
(7) A large plate full of raw Kale and steamed Brocolli with homemade dressing made up of lemon juice, apple cider vinegar, salt, pepper, and honey
(8) Large bowl filled with mixed fruits (strawberries, blueberries, mango, apple, etc.)

For the record I eat in 72 hour intervals. That is why I eat this much food in one sitting. I also cook all my meals on the stove top with coconut oil and extra virgil olive oil. That adds loads of healthy fats to my meals.

It took me about 3-4 hours to consume the meal in its entirety. I ate about 70% of it in the first hour. But the last 30% was extremely hard to eat over the last 2-3 hours. I eat this way because it optimizes the body's hormones. Its not pleasant after the first hour but its neccesary to make gains.

You don't just build muscle by working hard in the gym. You also have to push yourself at the dinner table.
 
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