Essential Quick Lil Gems on Dealing with Women

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How many women yall think go to male therapists? Got to be less than ten percent of them.

But i bet the amount of men who go to female therapists his a much higher proportion. Most therapists are women so that could be a factor
 

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everyone who ive dealt with who had a therapist or pushed that shyt was a terrible person :mjlol:

exactly. Another most these hoes went to college for bullshyt psychology degrees and weird as shyt working unrelated jobs too.

fukk these MAGA grifters but there is some conditioning that happens at our Universities. Even when I was in Undergrad I noticed the feminism but we weren't using apps and the current social media apps were not a thing/not in their current form so the feminist were more toned down (usually just the fake Diva Deltas who had masculine energy but they were fukkign so dudes paid no mind).
 

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How many women yall think go to male therapists? Got to be less than ten percent of them.

But i bet the amount of men who go to female therapists his a much higher proportion. Most therapists are women so that could be a factor

The framework they use is gynocentric centered so the gender doesn't matter, a few normal men may swoop through the cracks but lot of these dudes are ass too or too conditioned to see the real problem.
 

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How many women yall think go to male therapists? Got to be less than ten percent of them.

But i bet the amount of men who go to female therapists his a much higher proportion. Most therapists are women so that could be a factor

That dude Orion Taraban deals with both men and women. When he talks about his female patients....

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TL/DR - You gotta socialize broads as part of your rap, but you need to socialize people as part of your rap generally. ..



I don't know if 2 things make a pattern, but my thoughts on chicks that are breaking social "norms"
  • That's their personality. I just recently watched the 1st episode of The Rehearsal - and dude's female friend is well past the "young" stage - and she just never learned how to have a conversation.
  • They're used to talking to people that give them a lot of leash/don't assert themselves.
  • They don't know how to converse. (based on lack of experience/socialized by the net)
  • They don't know how to flirt. (based on lack of experience/socialized by the net)
  • They're intimidated and nervous.
My default is to think it's their personal quirk, not the worse option - they've (and their entire generation) been poorly socialized and really don't know how to operate, don't know how to feel, and just react to things randomly.

In any event, the "can't get a word in edge wise" or "chick being way too familiar" - is the same issue that it always was.

The man has to lead the conversation, and subtly or not-so subtly has to punish and reward her behavior. - Breaking eye contact, pulling back, tonal shifts, facial expressions, arm touches, abrupt changes of subject, pausing in the conversation to create the void - all the standard "game" stuff. (game with a lower case "g")

All of those things aren't really taught, much less practiced - but they're the behavior/personality of people that really get it.

I'm a bit out of practice with the nonverbals and the subtextual moves - so I'll just go "orthogonal". I'll flank her army of words about a particular topic, by asking about her. (Females do this all the time, when you're talking about X, you're right, she's wrong - but she raises the "tone" issue. "I don't like your tone" - which is a way of derailing the conversation and putting her back "on top")



I want to "catch" her. I need to catch her on my end.

Ideally she realizes that she's talking to me wrong, but chicks either know and don't care, or just don't know, cause they've never dealt with someone that's "on their level", much less someone that's above.

So she's gonna talk about the need for the black dress or whatever.
It's not what I want to talk about, but I do want to be in charge of the flow.
She's the spigot, but I turn the knob. I direct the water hose. She just sprays whatever.

Now that we're both in sync with the conversation - I can (within the rules of social norms) - interrupt her with on topic questions - which slows her roll, but also puts me in charge of the tempo of the conversation.

Moreover the types of questions I flip between

On Topic - "Oh really, what kind of black dress"
and
On Her - "you look/sound like the type that would wear that"

So in terms of these chicks, what we talk about is not really important to me (at first), but basically getting her on my program is. The tone of the conversation and the direction of the conversation is more important than the topic, for me.

So even if she's "dominating" the conversation, I'm basically putting guard rails around her energy and being in charge of it.

Cause in my mind, she can talk 90% of the time, I'm just the person that is in the driver's seat in terms of feed back and acceptance.

Because she's looking to vent, looking for acceptance, looking to derail, looking to flirt. These chicks want to see how much they can affect you (this is all unconscious, 99% of the time) - and you have to be able to "win" by letting her "win".

This is kinda hard to write out, but if y'all have Netflix - there's a new show called "The Beast in Me" - and the first scene with Claire Danes and Matthew Rhys (all of their scenes actually) - he's very good at messing with the direction and tone of the conversation by hitting her with all sorts of things. It's really a master class in game (and acting), but the technical stuff (aka the deeper game) about hollering at broads/dealing with people folks really aren't interested in.

This is mostly what I am getting at or trying to grasp. That was a good way to put it. The reacting vs responding. Short form videos. Flipping from one to the next, that's how they sound when they talk.

On the other parts, 100%. Someone told me a long time ago, on the business level: asking questions lets you control the conversation. But you have to hold the reins lightly. Ask the kind of questions that help the exchange, instead of just prolong it. I have a friend that will ramble with a woman for 20 minutes and never get to any of the good stuff. It's all just small talk. Nice, reassuring, but doesn't excite. He's a master of that. I'm very much the opposite, no small talk, lets just get to the good parts.

I watched three episodes of that. Good performance, and I noticed that too. He throws her off balance again and again. He's only able to get away with it because of his social class and his otherwise good manners, he's able to slap her verbally, and then kind of apologize, but not really. It keeps her both without defense and vulnerable, and she's grateful for his grace. As a TV show, I liked the set up and Rhys performance. The rest kind felt soggy and overdone.
 

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I think breh was saying "are you seeing a therapist?" is another question the gen z women ask too :laugh:

It's a Tik Tok thing/trend. Another insane requirement to dating. Because of course someone who sees a therapist must be emotionally healthy. It's another weird identity/branding thing/performative thing. It's a few years old.

Like my ideal partner is in therapy, makes this amount of money, is this tall.

I rarely tell anyone this while casually interacting, but I spent about 18 months in a program, halfway house, with straight up murderous convicts and the most insane drug addicts and alcoholics, as a 21 year old, so I have done therapy. Hundreds of AA meetings and dozens and dozens of group sessions with those guys, and it did change my life. But the shyt most people talk about when they say I go to therapy, they are just bytching about their day to day life and validating themselves. Therapy is real, but it's easily just another bullshyt status symbol people use.
 
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It's a Tik Tok thing/trend. Another insane requirement to dating. Because of course someone who sees a therapist must be emotionally healthy. It's another weird identity/branding thing/performative thing. It's a few years old.

Like my ideal partner is in therapy, makes this amount of money, is this tall.

I rarely tell anyone this while casually interacting, but I spent about 18 months in a program, halfway house, with straight up murderous convicts and the most insane drug addicts and alcoholics, as a 21 year old, so I have done therapy. Hundreds of AA meetings and dozens and dozens of group sessions with those guys, and it did change my life. But the shyt most people talk about when they say I go to therapy, they are just bytching about their day to day life and validating themselves. Therapy is real, but it's easily just another bullshyt status symbol people use.

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real or fake i dont know whats wrong with some people. too many creepy ass men on public transit

1) Creep or not, was her response appropriate?

He touches her hair, and she gets him thrown in jail for "sexual assault"?

Her alternative was to raise her voice about him touching her hair, instead of going nuclear.

2) This that RP awareness stuff - women will use 1) assumed innocence/clean hands and then 2) "violence by proxy" in order to accomplish goals.

Oftentimes the goals aren't self protection/preservation, but predatory.
 

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1) Creep or not, was her response appropriate?

He touches her hair, and she gets him thrown in jail for "sexual assault"?

Her alternative was to raise her voice about him touching her hair, instead of going nuclear.

2) This that RP awareness stuff - women will use 1) assumed innocence/clean hands and then 2) "violence by proxy" in order to accomplish goals.

Oftentimes the goals aren't self protection/preservation, but predatory.
As somebody who has been arrested for assault because my ex was on some dumb shyt, its a tough one

Doing it is wrong

But threatening to do it is okay if that makes sense

Some dudes are out here moving stupid…better you get a warning and wisen up to the realities of this world and the power women have in it to ruin your life, then to continue moving like an idiot and get a rude awakening at the hands of the law.

Judge threw my case out cause it was bs, but i still learned a very valuable lesson, even if it cost me $6k in lawyer fees. Not everyone is so fortunate
 
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